discussion Joker: FAD to lose $150-200M, one of the biggest box office bombs ever

[Antisocialites]

9 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Joker: FAD being a boring movie has nothing to do with the actors involved, but with the director and the writers making all the wrong choices. If you wanna blame it on an actor, it's Joaquin who's to take the blame considering they based the movie on his dream  We have receipts of Todd Philips dismissing Gaga's input, which makes it even funnier to see you all call it Gaga's Joker. Critics agree her performance was one of the few saving graces in a movie that otherwise went nowhere.

 

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/joker_folie_a_deux

 

A Star Is Born's success can not be solely contributed to Gaga, though using two of your brain cells should make you understand that she was part of the movie's success - alongside other people who worked on it. But you'd rather go down the misogynistic path of #ThankYouBradley, ignoring the fact that Gaga was behind one of the most vital and defining elements of the movie - the soundtrack.

Like you've been spamming in this thread constantly: stay in school because this again has nothing to do with what I'm saying. I know some of you like to spin other's people words around to try to make sense of what you want to say but this ain't going to work with me.

 

Point out exactly the moment I said that the actors of this film are directly responsible for the film being boring. Quickly. Again, all I'm saying is that an actor's contribuition is CENTRAL to a film, so it's safe to categorize this as Lady Gaga's Joker: Folie A Deux, since you know, she's the female lead of the film. Her performance was super acclaimed? Good for her, more reasons to even call this Lady Gaga's Joker: Folie A Deux.

Edited October 13 by Antisocialites

[GentleDance]

4 minutes ago, TipToe said:

I read a theory that the purpose of this movie is to actually destroy Joaquin's Joker because the character was too attached to the actor which could possibly make other actors in other flicks playing Joker having a hard time when it comes to acceptance by the public. It must be it, it's the only explanation for this atrocity.

I don't think WB would blow hundreds of millions of doallrs for Joaquin's acting career

 

[NoAngelus]

42 minutes ago, P.O.P said:

Ok what about the music in FAD and the accompanying soundtrack  Sitting pretty at 133 in Taiwan:

 

Do we blame Todd Philips for this too? 

[Solaria]

OGH really needed this huh... what are the Katyrats gonna do when LG7 outdebuts OneFadtyThree times x3 and she actually bags another No.1 single?

 

[JC.]

1 hour ago, P.O.P said:

 

AND an OVERWHELMING majority of people search die with a smile on YouTube with Bruno's name:

 

 

While gaga always being in the driver seat is not a good look, you have to choose an argument and stick with it. It is either you don't claim DWS and Joker together or they are both GAGA's.

Dying at the ATRL exclusive logo  

 

And that one monster defending Gags like their paycheck depended on it  

Edited October 13 by JC.

[Hurem]

3 minutes ago, Antisocialites said:

Point out exactly the moment I said that the actors of this film are directly responsible for the film being boring. Quickly. Again, all I'm saying is that an actor's contribuition is CENTRAL to a film, so it's safe to categorize this as Lady Gaga's Joker: Folie A Deux, since you know, she's the female lead of the film. Her performance was super acclaimed? Good for her, more reasons to even call this Lady Gaga's Joker: Folie A Deux.

Just to make things clear, do you agree that despite Gaga's super acclaimed performance, the movie was bad because of choices made by the director and the writers?

[manuelalex9810]

 

I should feel bad for her but I don't, monsters deserve the meltdowns they're having, karma got them really good.

[Shelter]

1 hour ago, Pikacho said:

Um no? I'm just being realistic.

 

59 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

I just realized you and @Pikachoo are different people 

Same 

[Hurem]

39 minutes ago, SoundsandSongs said:

so obviously the performance of both movies/soundtracks was not 100% due to her. But you can't claim Gaga's ASIB and Shallow success is because of her

I don't think anyone in their right mind placed ASIB's success completely on her though? It seems like the cursed cycle of OGHs not being able to stand her success so they wanted to diminish it with #ThankYouBradley narrative, which made Liddos go a bit overboard with defensiveness. And now it's happening with J:FAD as well where OGHs delude themselves into thinking Gaga was the reason of its failure, even though we've gotten many receipts on how Todd Philips fumbled the bag with this one.

[DougAF]

11 hours ago, Yes, AND said:

I hope Nurtec have been keeping her supplied in these trying times. 

Is it possible gaga intentionally put out a migraine inducing album and "movie" in order to increase Nurtec sales…? 
 

[Elementary]

So the director should have given more creative freedom? For what? To add even more unwanted singing? 
 

Gotta love the level of delusion to think she knows better than a movie director, especially for a movie in which she's "just a supporting role". 

[Assassin]

1 hour ago, Solar said:

that's not overwhelming sis

Twice as many search for Bruno instead of gaga. So what adjective do you wanna use?

[Hurem]

3 minutes ago, Elementary said:

So the director should have given more creative freedom? For what? To add even more unwanted singing? 

Gaga was the one who wanted more dialogue, but Todd cut it out of the movie because he felt the "vibes" asked for more singing  

[Assassin]

29 minutes ago, Solaria said:

OGH really needed this huh... what are the Katyrats gonna do when LG7 outdebuts OneFadtyThree times x3 and she actually bags another No.1 single?

 

Gaga hasn't had a solo #1 since the first Obama administration, so I guess the lead will be a collab then? 

Edited October 13 by Assassin

[hungrymuffin]

love seeing that monster getting destroyed here left and right when they have been grabbing opportunity to shade someone thats not even relevant to the topic 

 

OT: very fitting nosedive 

[shyboi]

I can't believe that Gaga fan still going at it 

 

someone please hand them some quetiapine or another even stronger antipsychotic so they can get some sleep for the love of our holy lord!! 

[Windy Day]

1 hour ago, SoundsandSongs said:

Being consistency with standards is key.

 

You can't say ASIB's performance is because of Gaga and then claim Joker 2's performance has nothing to do with her. She was plastered over all the Joker 2 marketing material and plays a major role. One of the major drawcards of movies is the actors and word of mouth on how they portrayed the characters. This goes for the soundtracks too. 

 

Gaga was not the director of either movie and Brad/Joaquin are the male leads so obviously the performance of both movies/soundtracks was not 100% due to her. But you can't claim Gaga's ASIB and Shallow success is because of her and Joker 2's flop doesnt have anything to do with her when both are group efforts.

 

Ultimately the only way we'll see how it impacts Gaga in the long run is with LG7 and her next movie. It's way too premature to count her out.

yall acting like only shallow was big when ARUTW is on its way to 2 billion 

[ShouldersSideways]

12 hours ago, Yes, AND said:

 

I always cringe when I see her interviews about acting, the way all those other celebs did on that Zoom with her. Career actors are typically like, "Yeah it was a great script, I had a lot of fun" and somehow for her every character she plays is so deep and "personal." 

[Assassin]

1 hour ago, P.O.P said:

 

AND an OVERWHELMING majority of people search die with a smile on YouTube with Bruno's name:

 

#ThankYouBruno

 

[P.O.P]

1 minute ago, Assassin said:

#ThankYouBruno

 

omg

 

[DougAF]

2 hours ago, Hurem said:

And what's sending me is that you are desperately trying to make a correlation between J:FAD bombing and Gaga's music career (despite her having the biggest song in the world, which makes y'all look like clowns)

 

The way you're still pretending like Harleshit doesn't exist… 

 

There IS a correlation there sweetie 

[Brooklyn Baby]

Omg I just caught up. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. The way I can't breathe 

[P.O.P]

From Reddit:

 

 

 

my personal fave:

 

[ZeroSuitBritney]

I've only read the last two pages of this thread and I think I've seen enough. This  is chaos.

[Hurem]

19 minutes ago, DougAF said:

The way you're still pretending like Harleshit doesn't exist… 

 

There IS a correlation there sweetie 

Did you honestly expect Oh When The Saints to be a streaming smash or are you being obtuse on purpose? The songs from Harlequin weren't even in the movie, so the correlation is non existent. One is a companion album inspired by a character, the other album is a soundtrack and core part of the movie.