discussion Joker: FAD to lose $150-200M, one of the biggest box office bombs ever

[halcyonday]

3 minutes ago, Hurem said:

And what's sending me is that you are desperately trying to make a correlation between J:FAD bombing and Gaga's music career (despite her having the biggest song in the world, which makes y'all look like clowns)

 

Keep fighting girlie, your almost as strong as the -80% DROP

 

[NoAngelus]

20 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Well maybe if Todd gave Gaga more creative freedom, the movie might've been more acclaimed, unlike now when he cut her so much out of the movie that the final product ended up PANNED 

 did you really force yourself to believe that she was cut and movie is panned because of that? Give up sis. 

[Solar]

2 minutes ago, Weld_E said:

The same base thats streamed Harliquen?

it lowkey had the same reception as the movie  but yes B the same MF base who bought tickets to this sequel 

[P.O.P]

14 hours ago, Hurem said:

 

74.3 million streams in a week  

 

27 minutes ago, Hurem said:

https://deadline.com/2024/10/box-office-joker-folie-a-deux-1236107521/

 

Any other narrative you wanna make up?

 

 

 

AND an OVERWHELMING majority of people search die with a smile on YouTube with Bruno's name:

 

 

While gaga always being in the driver seat is not a good look, you have to choose an argument and stick with it. It is either you don't claim DWS and Joker together or they are both GAGA's.

[dumbsparce]

Not me just now clocking the title

 

[Solar]

1 minute ago, P.O.P said:

 

AND an OVERWHELMING majority of people search die with a smile on YouTube with Bruno's name:

 

 

While gaga always being in the driver seat is not a good look, you have to choose an argument and stick with it. It is either you don't claim DWS and Joker together or they are both GAGA's.

that's not overwhelming sis

[NoAngelus]

5 minutes ago, P.O.P said:

 

AND an OVERWHELMING majority of people search die with a smile on YouTube with Bruno's name:

 

 

While gaga always being in the driver seat is not a good look, you have to choose an argument and stick with it. It is either you don't claim DWS and Joker together or they are both GAGA's.

Oh my god 

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

5 minutes ago, P.O.P said:

 

AND an OVERWHELMING majority of people search die with a smile on YouTube with Bruno's name:

 

 

While gaga always being in the driver seat is not a good look, you have to choose an argument and stick with it. It is either you don't claim DWS and Joker together or they are both GAGA's.

Not you having this data

They don't call them OGH for nothing dddd

[Hurem]

3 minutes ago, P.O.P said:

It is either you don't claim DWS and Joker together or they are both GAGA's.

Die With A Smile

Songwriter(s): Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Dernst Emile II, Andrew Watt, James Fauntleroy

Producer(s): Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, D'Mile, Andrew Watt

 

Joker: FAD

Directed by: Todd Philips 

Written by: Scott Silver, Todd Phillips

Produced by: Todd Phillips, Emma Tillinger Koskoff, Joseph Garner

 

[Antisocialites]

that one monster trying to bring Cate Blanchett's flop film as some gotcha moment... stick to the 143 and Katy drags, sisters. 

[ontherocks]

Not Liddo Manstas trying to shift the narrative to "the director(!!!) should have given her more creative freedom (as if the movie wasn't camp enough anyway) and her fanbase would have flocked to the cinemas if she was given more screentime. Truly the masters of excuses and delusion

 

Bonus 

 

 

Edited October 13 by ontherocks

[P.O.P]

3 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Die With A Smile

Songwriter(s): Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, Dernst Emile II, Andrew Watt, James Fauntleroy

Producer(s): Bruno Mars, Lady Gaga, D'Mile, Andrew Watt

 

Joker: FAD

Directed by: Todd Philips 

Written by: Scott Silver, Todd Phillips

Produced by: Todd Phillips, Emma Tillinger Koskoff, Joseph Garner

 

A star is born

 

Directed by: Bradley Cooper

 

Written by: 

Eric Roth...(screenplay by) and

Bradley Cooper...(screenplay by) &

Will Fetters...(screenplay by)

Moss Hart...(based on the 1954 screenplay by)

John Gregory Dunne...(based on the 1976 screenplay by) &

Joan Didion...(based on the 1976 screenplay by) and

Frank Pierson...(based on the 1976 screenplay by)

William A. Wellman...(based on a story by) (as William Wellman) and

Robert Carson...(based on a story by)

 

Produced by: 

Bradley Cooper...producer (p.g.a.)

Robert J. Dohrmann...co-producer

Bill Gerber...producer (p.g.a.)

Lynette Howell Taylor...producer (p.g.a.)

Basil Iwanyk...executive producer

Sue Kroll...executive producer

Niija Kuykendall...executive producer

Ravi D. Mehta...executive producer (as Ravi Mehta)

Weston Middleton...associate producer

Heather Parry...executive producer

Jon Peters...producer

Todd Phillips...producer

Michael Rapino...executive producer

Robert S. Wilhelm Jr....associate producer

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517451/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_wr#writer

 

Ok now ASIB is not Gaga's?

[Witnessed ET]

Oh dear lord, it's BAD for her and everyone involved. Even more so because no one expected this level of catastrophic BOMB at all.

 

 

 

[Pikacho]

1 hour ago, Shelter said:

Is @Pikacho a Gaga Stan? 
 

The last few weeks on here have been iconic. 3 weeks of getting blasted from all angles, how are the monsters coping. The Kats must be so relieved someone else took the heat of them 

 

Um no? I'm just being realistic.

[Hurem]

3 minutes ago, P.O.P said:

A star is born

 

Directed by: Bradley Cooper

 

Written by: 

Eric Roth...(screenplay by) and

Bradley Cooper...(screenplay by) &

Will Fetters...(screenplay by)

Moss Hart...(based on the 1954 screenplay by)

John Gregory Dunne...(based on the 1976 screenplay by) &

Joan Didion...(based on the 1976 screenplay by) and

Frank Pierson...(based on the 1976 screenplay by)

William A. Wellman...(based on a story by) (as William Wellman) and

Robert Carson...(based on a story by)

 

Produced by: 

Bradley Cooper...producer (p.g.a.)

Robert J. Dohrmann...co-producer

Bill Gerber...producer (p.g.a.)

Lynette Howell Taylor...producer (p.g.a.)

Basil Iwanyk...executive producer

Sue Kroll...executive producer

Niija Kuykendall...executive producer

Ravi D. Mehta...executive producer (as Ravi Mehta)

Weston Middleton...associate producer

Heather Parry...executive producer

Jon Peters...producer

Todd Phillips...producer

Michael Rapino...executive producer

Robert S. Wilhelm Jr....associate producer

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517451/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_wr#writer

 

Ok now ASIB is not Gaga's?

What about the music in A Star Is Born? You know, an integral part of the movie and its success? Who wrote it?

 

Quickly!

[Witnessed ET]

5 minutes ago, Pikacho said:

Um no? I'm just being realistic.

I just realized you and @Pikachoo are different people 

[P.O.P]

1 minute ago, Hurem said:

What about the music in A Star Is Born? You know, an integral part of the movie and its success? Who wrote it?

 

Quickly!

Ok what about the music in FAD and the accompanying soundtrack  Sitting pretty at 133 in Taiwan:

 

[Antisocialites]

9 minutes ago, Hurem said:

What about the music in A Star Is Born? You know, an integral part of the movie and its success? Who wrote it?

 

Quickly!

What about the performances in Joker: Folie A Deux? You know, an integral part of the movie and its tankery? Who acted in it?

 

Quickly!

[Hurem]

1 minute ago, P.O.P said:

Ok what about the music in FAD and the accompanying soundtrack  Sitting pretty at 133 in Taiwan:

 

Y'all comparing the music in ASIB and J:FAD will never not be funny  No one asked for Joker to be a musical, nor was it Gaga's idea. So once again, it makes no sense for you to try to make it her fault

[Shinning]

17 minutes ago, ontherocks said:

Not Liddo Manstas trying to shift the narrative to "the director(!!!) should have given her more creative freedom (as if the movie wasn't camp enough anyway) and her fanbase would have flocked to the cinemas if she was given more screentime. Truly the masters of excuses and delusion

 

Bonus 

 

 

Absolutely we gotta give them credit when it's due

No matter how much she's flopping the monsters will STAY giving out excuses

[Hurem]

3 minutes ago, Antisocialites said:

What about the performances in Joker: Folie A Deux? You know, an integral part of the movie and its tankery? Who acted in it?

 

Quickly!

Except it wasn't panned because of acting, but because of horrible choices on the directors part   If anything, people say the acting was the only good part of the movie

[SoundsandSongs]

Being consistency with standards is key.

 

You can't say ASIB's performance is because of Gaga and then claim Joker 2's performance has nothing to do with her. She was plastered over all the Joker 2 marketing material and plays a major role. One of the major drawcards of movies is the actors and word of mouth on how they portrayed the characters. This goes for the soundtracks too. 

 

Gaga was not the director of either movie and Brad/Joaquin are the male leads so obviously the performance of both movies/soundtracks was not 100% due to her. But you can't claim Gaga's ASIB and Shallow success is because of her and Joker 2's flop doesnt have anything to do with her when both are group efforts.

 

Ultimately the only way we'll see how it impacts Gaga in the long run is with LG7 and her next movie. It's way too premature to count her out.

Edited October 13 by SoundsandSongs

[Antisocialites]

7 minutes ago, Hurem said:

Except it wasn't panned because of acting, but because of horrible choices on the directors part   If anything, people say the acting was the only good part of the movie

except that has NOTHING to do with what it was being discussed. I know you're fighting for your life in this thread but the origin was that for Little Monsters you can't say it's Gaga's JFAD because she's not a director, a writer or a producer of the film... then you went onto say that it is Gaga's ASIB because she's the writer of the music (a central part of the film) and I'm just telling you that performances are also a central part of a film so it's safe to say that this is indeed Lady Gaga's Joker: A Folie Deux.

 

 

Edited October 13 by Antisocialites

[ontherocks]

27 minutes ago, Shinning said:

Absolutely we gotta give them credit when it's due

No matter how much she's flopping the monsters will STAY giving out excuses

You know, by saying "giving her more creative freedom" it implies being some kind of a co-director. They truly believe that Gags can achieve anything if she puts her mind to it. That's not how it works 

Edited October 13 by ontherocks

[Hurem]

2 minutes ago, Antisocialites said:

except that has NOTHING to do with what it was being discussed. I know you're fighting for your life in this thread but the origin was that for Little Monsters you can't say it's Gaga's JFAD because she's not a director, a writer or a producer of the film... then you went onto say that it is Gaga's ASIB because she's the writer of the music (a central part of the film) and I'm just telling you that performances are also a central part of a film so it's safe to say that this is indeed Lady Gaga's Joker: A Folie Deux.

Joker: FAD being a boring movie has nothing to do with the actors involved, but with the director and the writers making all the wrong choices. If you wanna blame it on an actor, it's Joaquin who's to take the blame considering they based the movie on his dream  We have receipts of Todd Philips dismissing Gaga's input, which makes it even funnier to see you all call it Gaga's Joker. Critics agree her performance was one of the few saving graces in a movie that otherwise went nowhere.

 

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Critics Consensus

Joaquin Phoenix's eponymous Joker takes the stand in a sequel that dances around while the story remains still, although Lady Gaga's wildcard energy gives Folie á Deux some verve

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/joker_folie_a_deux

 

A Star Is Born's success can not be solely contributed to Gaga, though using two of your brain cells should make you understand that she was part of the movie's success - alongside other people who worked on it. But you'd rather go down the misogynistic path of #ThankYouBradley, ignoring the fact that Gaga was behind one of the most vital and defining elements of the movie - the soundtrack.