discussion Joker: FAD to lose $150-200M, one of the biggest box office bombs ever

[XAMJ]

Gaga box office poison confirmed 

[Achilles.]

If only the first one had tanked like this.

[Matchatea]

This was a budget of 200 million…. 70 million is going be UGLY if true….

 

The @Kukai voodoo Strikes again!! 

[AvadaKedavra]

The monsters were mockin katy right and left

This is

Edited September 12 by AvadaKedavra

[Lady Claire]

Still good regardless

 

I think it's ok to have a modest opening, if the GP likes it then word of mouth will help the film. There's a lot of cases where critics trashed a film but the public enjoyed. I guess we'll have to wait.

 

 

 

Edited September 12 by Lady Claire

[JO1s]

Maybe clown roles aren't for her

[Matchatea]

1 minute ago, 4th Time Around said:

My prediction is that this movie going to do something in the ballpark of 400 million at the box office, definitely not 1 billion like the first movie but still not a loss 

Let's hope! @Kukai hopefully hasn't cursed this movie!

[Lil' Oz]

8 minutes ago, Matchatea said:

This was a budget of 200 million…. 70 million is going be UGLY if true….

 

The @Kukai voodoo Strikes again!! 

That's the budget WITHOUT marketing and promotion, so the actual budget is even higher (much higher) 

 

Thats one of the problems with this film. The film's budget is unnecessarily big, like, the first one was made for very little money and they should have kept the budget at around 100M for this film. Thus, they could have saved face. The director is truly… dumb to say the least.

Edited September 12 by Lil' Oz

[Digitalism]

52 minutes ago, 4th Time Around said:

She was the aspect of the movie that got most of the praise and critics complained she should have had more screen time. She is not the problem here and will remain unscathed regardless of the films commercial performance 

If an actor chooses panned flops they are part of the problem.

 

[4th Time Around]

3 minutes ago, Digitalism said:

If an actor chooses panned flops they are part of the problem.

 

Panned flop is a massive overstatement my guy. The movie reviews have been mixed at worst, just like the first film and we still need to wait and see what kind of box office performance this thing has

 

I have never cared all that much about Gaga's film career one way or the other, just trying to stay objective and point out that critcs have been positive about her role in the film which they felt was not utilized enough

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[RideOrDie]

19 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said:

The monsters were mockin katy right and left

This is

no one needs to mock the clown who made a fool out of herself 

[Assassin]

20 minutes ago, Lady Claire said:

Still good regardless

 

I think it's ok to have a modest opening, if the GP likes it then word of mouth will help the film. There's a lot of cases where critics trashed a film but the public enjoyed. I guess we'll have to wait.

 

 

 

if you think it will have good WOM after that ending, you are kidding yourself.

[ctlp27]

You need to calm down. It was never expected to match the final gross of the first one. Plus, it's a risky move for two reasons: it remains rated R, and it has musical elements.

 

Even if it opens to $70M, that would be quite an achievement. It might even have strong legs. As long as it hits $200M domestically, it would be a great feat, and the movie should perform well globally. Look at *Twisters*—it bombed worldwide but was a huge success in North America.

 

Not all sequels are bound to be that much more successful than the first. Deadpool 2 made more or less than the first for instance (which is great).

[Walk_Away21]

1 hour ago, Kylizzle said:

The Marvels predicted opening: $70 - 80M https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/the-marvels-box-office-tracking-1235622799/

Actual opening: $47M 

 

The Flash predicted opening: $70M https://variety.com/2023/film/box-office/the-flash-elemental-box-office-battle-1235642293/

Actual opening: $55M 

 

Joker 2 predicted opening: $70M

Actual opening: ? 

 

 

I was gonna say, this is giving The Flash vibes

[Popboi.]

1 hour ago, 4th Time Around said:

My prediction is that this movie going to do something in the ballpark of 400 to 500 million at the box office, definitely not 1 billion like the first movie but still fairly successful as long as the general audience reception is decent 

It needs $550-600M just to break even. $400m would be catastrophic.

[4th Time Around]

6 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

It needs $550-600M just to break even. $400m would be catastrophic.

Was that 200 million figure the total budget for the production?

[family.guy123]

2 minutes ago, 4th Time Around said:

Was that 200 million figure the total budget for the production?

No. It was debunked. 

[Popboi.]

5 minutes ago, 4th Time Around said:

Was that 200 million figure the total budget for the production?

It's the movie's budget, promotion is almost always equal to that and then there's the cinema's cut per ticket. A movie needs to almost triple it's budget to make profit.

[4th Time Around]

Just now, Popboi. said:

It's the movie's budget, promotion is almost always equal to that and then there's the cinema's cut per ticket. A movie needs to almost triple it's budget to make profit.

Well I guess we will just need to wait and see how the movie does at the box office although I am pretty certain it wont get 1 billion like Joker 1 did. Never understood why movies these days require such an outrageous budget and many of them turn out looking like **** 

[Broken]

- Gaga was cut from the movie

- it's anti-incel

- it's not an actual musical

 

Who TF is gonna watch this?

 

Gaga stans? Probably not.

Incels? Definitely not

Musical fans? They won't like it not leaning hard enough into the musical elements

The GP? They are probably now planning to watch the next Venom movie

[4th Time Around]

Wait I'm confused, I went and did some reading and all the articles are saying that 70 million opening is very good, even if not on the level of the first movie that had novelty on it's side

 

Why is ATRL acting like these numbers indicate a bomb?

[LatinFreak]

DC fanboys not rushing to see Lady GayGa.... Wow. Color me shocked. 

[AlGreRithm]

5 minutes ago, 4th Time Around said:

 

Why is ATRL acting like these numbers indicate a bomb?

cause it's ATRL, duh. all things are sensationalized here for the sake of stan wars. get used to it.

 

 

OT: 70m  good numbers for an R-rated anti-incel court-room drama musical

[mathekr]

This is not looking good  

[Paultea]

1 hour ago, RideOrDie said:

no one needs to mock the clown who made a fool out of herself 

Because Gaga has never made a fool of herself, right? 
 

"There could a hundred people in a room" 

 

"Large swarms of flies starting following me around"

 

"Do you ever drink the prop drinks and actually feel drunk?"
 

"I looked for evidence" 

 

I'm sure she has something great and not foolish to repeat constantly during this press tour!