discussion Joker: FAD to lose $150-200M, one of the biggest box office bombs ever

[Assassin]

45 minutes ago, piotrert said:

i think it will have atrocious legs, because they are hiding it is a musical

also because of the ending.

[Janet]

Girl … what is going on in this thread…

[rac7d]

Her gays have failed her

[Donquizote]

It needs to do at least 500M to break even.

It's still doable methinks. 

[visions]

55 minutes ago, piotrert said:

i think it will have atrocious legs, because they are hiding it is a musical

That's gotta be the worst kept secret ever at this point though, no? Everyone knows it's a musical 

 

Ig we'll see how it holds, I know Margot Robbie is laughing a biT too much rn though 

[Mr. Stratus]

52 minutes ago, Shaner69 said:

Yes a screening earlier and what were they thinking. In not sure how to feel about it. It's not my cup of tea the acting was over frantic and nothing really connected. It was harsh I guess maybe I needed some drinks because nothing connected with me at all. Seemed very cold if that makes sense. Nothing connecting. 

I don't care what a Madonna x Bey hybrid thinks about Gaga's acting in a thread where everyone has jumped on the chance to trash the pre-sales.

I say this in the nicest possible way 

 

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Those BO trackers seem so desperate for this to fail for the drama of it, they're still pushing 40m!!11 even after official articles. 

Deadline even spin 70m as the lowball and mention 90m on high end. It's prob not touching 100m opening but don't count it out! It's a rated R musical.

Edited September 13 by Mr. Stratus

[Shaner69]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

I don't care what a Madonna x Bey hybrid thinks about Gaga's acting in a thread where everyone has jumped on the chance to trash the pre-sales.

I say this in the nicest possible way 

 

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Those BO trackers seem so desperate for this to fail for the drama of it, they're still pushing 40m!!11 even after official articles. 

Deadline even spin 70m as the lowball and mention 90m on high end. It's prob not touching 100m opening but don't count it out! It's a rated R musical.

I'm so Sorry. But this flop. Is panned MORE THEN WHO'S THAT GIRL. IT'S 50%

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

3 minutes ago, Shaner69 said:

I'm so Sorry. But this flop. Is panned MORE THEN WHO'S THAT GIRL. IT'S 50%

It's 62% it's mixed not panned so far

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

51 minutes ago, Shaner69 said:

I'm just a gay lol I vote Kamila *******. Mark my words. 

 

45 minutes ago, Shaner69 said:

Omg  I know I'm a target. 

 

It's ok 

 

44 minutes ago, Shaner69 said:

Let's play kesha Joyride to make things better

 

37 minutes ago, Shaner69 said:

This movie tanked these old hags 

Are you ok?

[eclipsed]

1 hour ago, OrgVisual said:

It has the same budget as Deadpool & Wolverine; so yes it was expected to be the same kind of blockbuster. The success of a film is not determined by how much money it makes but if it's profitable from the budget that was put into the film.

 

"The Flash" made €60M opening weekend but still considered a massive bomb

Todd already said the budget reported was not true. It's more than 50m but 200M was a lie

[eclipsed]

26 minutes ago, visions said:

That's gotta be the worst kept secret ever at this point though, no? Everyone knows it's a musical 

 

Ig we'll see how it holds, I know Margot Robbie is laughing a biT too much rn though 

Why this is gonna do more than her birds of prey 

[eclipsed]

47 minutes ago, Bad_vocal_technique said:

Exactly. Little monster doing the most trying to save face by saying this was an obvious indie movie or something.
 

expectations were high for MANY reasons.

but in the end: big commercial failure.

Big commercial failure for doing 20M less than the predecessor OW, that is not a "big commercial failure" and these aren't even the final numbers, y'all really want her to lose so bad you'll convince yourselves of anything 

[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

29 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

 

 

 

Are you ok?

It clearly wants attention 

[Giorgoc]

12 hours ago, Paultea said:

Because Gaga has never made a fool of herself, right? 
 

"There could a hundred people in a room" 

 

"Large swarms of flies starting following me around"

 

"Do you ever drink the prop drinks and actually feel drunk?"
 

"I looked for evidence" 

 

I'm sure she has something great and not foolish to repeat constantly during this press tour!

Being extra on a press tour is one thing, working with the abuser of your "friend" for a quick hit and failing miserably at that is a completely different story.

 

Gaga is a campy clown, true. Katy though? That's a whole 'nother level.

 

OT: Did y'all read that Todd Philips, the film's director, said that the $200M budget rumors are obsurd?

[Pud]

2 hours ago, Shaner69 said:

No clue but this one sucks. 

Where did you see it? 
 

OT: I think it will outperform current expectations. This isn't a trashy marvel film that nerds typically pre-book a month in advance. I'm confident that, once people know it's out, they will buy tickets. Just like the first Joker, which was mainly driven by word of mouth

Edited September 13 by Pud

[AlGreRithm]

hard to argue with people who don't utilize critical thinking. but oh well, I'd be fuming too if my fave can't successfully cross over to acting. 

 

[Broken]

2 hours ago, visions said:

I know Margot Robbie is laughing a biT too much rn though 

Lowest-grossing DCEU movies:

 

#1. Blue Beetle: $130M WW

#2. Shazam! Fury of the Gods: $134M WW

#3. MARGOT ROBBIE's The Suicide Squad: $168.7M WW

#4. Wonder Woman 1984: $169.6M WW

#5. MARGOT ROBBIE's Birds of Prey: $205.3M WW

 

Margot was the lead in 2 DC movies. Both tanked.

Edited September 13 by Broken

[Bad_vocal_technique]

2 hours ago, eclipsed said:

Big commercial failure for doing 20M less than the predecessor OW, that is not a "big commercial failure" and these aren't even the final numbers, y'all really want her to lose so bad you'll convince yourselves of anything 

Baby, movies are considered successful or not taking into account their budget and this one's is allegedly much bigger than the original. Stop the delusion 🤡

[Broken]

4 hours ago, shyboi said:

 

that's so interesting, I wonder if they get messy about actors / actresses like we do with our mpgs? lol 

Yes. + directors and franchises.

 

The Batman v Superman second weekend drop thread was historic, the franchise died that day .

[corotinho]

4 hours ago, Khal said:

Why did anyone think this would ever do better or come close to the first one? It's a sequel that switches the tone from the initial film and turns into a musical, which already alienates a core demographic of the fans of the first movie. Are we being idiotic on purpose, or something?

the excuses 

[shyboi]

9 minutes ago, Broken said:

Yes. + directors and franchises.

 

The Batman v Superman second weekend drop thread was historic, the franchise died that day .

 

I will sign up, the drama there is probably miles more entertaining than here 

[Elementary]

14 hours ago, AlGreRithm said:

OT: 70m  good numbers for an R-rated anti-incel court-room drama musical

But not good for a movie which costed 200M to produce 

 

They turned this into a tacky vanity project and the public said no. 

[Kool_Aid_King]

9 hours ago, Broken said:

*domestic

 

Yes. Lol

Oh 70M Domestic is amazing then!

[AlGreRithm]

4 minutes ago, Elementary said:

But not good for a movie which costed 200M to produce 

 

They turned this into a tacky vanity project and the public said no. 

the director already debunked this. 

 

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...while Phillips confirmed "Folie à Deux" is "much more expensive," according to Variety, the budget was less than the reported $200 million.

Frankly, Phillips said that number was "absurd," but didn't get why people cared anyways.

Probably the reason the budget went beyond $60m is because it's a musical, so they have to license the songs they used. 

[tiagol88]

4 hours ago, OnlyManInTheWorld said:

Their biggest mistake was limiting Gaga's onscreen time. Literally everyone was gonna watch it for her and now even I'm wondering…

What…who watched the first movie then?