discussion Joker: FAD to lose $150-200M, one of the biggest box office bombs ever

[Broken]

2 hours ago, Kool_Aid_King said:

A global 70M opening

*domestic

 

1 hour ago, shyboi said:

there's an ATRL but for MOVIES?? 

Yes. Lol

[Calvin]

I doubt it. BOT forums are predicting less than $50 M opening. 

[fridayteenage]

joker did have some critic fans; 17 of 60 reviews on MC were at least high 80s (28%).

 

thus far, 0 of the first 23 reviews loved this.

Edited September 13 by fridayteenage

[HausOfPunk]

Extremely stable, which is a very good sign

[narid]

Copium overload in this thread. 

 

 

Edited September 13 by narid

[4th Time Around]

1 hour ago, AvadaKedavra said:

Omg sis i hope youre right.

I hope this isn't another situation like Joanne, where all the dark tracks with RedOne-American Horror Story inspired tracks were removed. This album looks so promising that Gaga changing direction would be catastrophic. I don't know why, but I have this gut feeling that her next project is going to be amazing and much better than Chromatica and as good as her first proyects or even better and serve magnum opus 
 Hope theyre pressing the vinyls already

 

Chromatica was a decent album that could have been a truly great one. I have much higher hopes for LG7 because she seems very proud of it, was more involved in the studio process and the snippets we have gotten are incredibly promising 

[eclipsed]

I'm not sure whether you guys are just trying to pull a Kukai or are straight up delusional trolls. The OP seems like the ladder for sure. This isn't supposed to be a superhero movie like The Marvels, The Flash, Deadpool & Wolverine  

70m for an R rated sequel courtroom DRAMA/MUSICAL would be fantastic. I hope it can do that much. Those 100M predictions in the beginning were a bit ridiculous considering the first movie never even got to 100m, maybe the Venice reviews hurt this a bit but we know Joker 1 became a billion dollar picture due to the controversies surrounding it which this does not have. These are A list actor numbers, actually most of those that are considered A list couldn't even pull these numbers.

 

If it does do 70M this would become the 7th biggest opening in the month of October ever.

Edited September 13 by eclipsed

[Trainwreck]

MOVIE POISON

[eclipsed]

1 minute ago, Trainwreck said:

MOVIE POISON

Is Taylor Swift. Didn't Cats (also a musical) open with 6 million  and isn't Amsterdam considered one of the biggest box office bombs of all time..

[burninredhot]

10 hours ago, tost1 said:

Gaga is only in 30% of the movie, if she was in all of it, it would open with 230M...

Remove the 0 and you'd be right 

[burninredhot]

2 hours ago, eclipsed said:

Is Taylor Swift. Didn't Cats (also a musical) open with 6 million  and isn't Amsterdam considered one of the biggest box office bombs of all time..

Yea because a cameo role is the same as the lead female role. Also this is a sequel to an insanely successful DC movie 

Edited September 13 by burninredhot

[Life Savers]

This was bound to underperform when they decided to make it a musical. I think it might still do fine but 1B predictions were overdoing it. I'll watch it, personally.

[tost1]

34 minutes ago, burninredhot said:

Remove the 0 and you'd be right 

Being a Gaga hater is not a good look babe

[Shaner69]

It's tracking bad in Canada too for theaters. I think this will do okish but kinda bomb on second week. The new horror film Smile is basically getting the same presales at the theater. 

[simplywohoo]

I'm not that into cinema but is this not quite a lot ? 

[GraceRandolph]

It'll still be Gaga's biggest opening to date, and her first #1 movie.

[burninredhot]

37 minutes ago, tost1 said:

Being a Gaga hater is not a good look babe

Maybe to the liddos. It's hilarious otherwise 

 

 

 

[watermelonshake]

Hmmmm I was going to see this even though I didn't see the first one but hearing that Gaga isn't in most of it has kind of put me off tbh. I'll see what the final verdict is after the GP has had a chance to see it but....

[tiagol88]

Not a 40/50M opening weekend 

 

That's even worse than what the OP mentioned. We're entering Flash 2 territory here.

[visions]

This movie will have better legs than the average action superhero movie imo

 

Even if it does open with similar numbers to The Flash etc. it will still bring in more for its entire run no doubt. 

[welham]

I genuinely believe the "it's gonna be a musical!! 🥰" turned off so many people. At least for me it did. Even if it's actually not as the recent chatter online is indicating, it'll need to recover from that narrative regardless. 

 

At the same time, wasn't the original projected to open lower than it actually did? Because a lot of people didn't pre-order and decided to see it same day (the term for it has "walk" in it but I forgot what it is). I feel like this movie is a wild card that can go either way, but I can see it just doing... okay. Not a smash like the first, but not a big/even regular flop. 

 

Plus, I feel like the sentiment that led Joker to smash might not be replicated this time.

[Shaner69]

I think people need to touch grass. 

[XDNA]

I haven't seen it advertised much. Maybe closer to the release date, we will see a marketing blitz.

[shyboi]

24 minutes ago, tiagol88 said:

Not a 40/50M opening weekend 

 

That's even worse than what the OP mentioned. We're entering Flash 2 territory here.

 

that user is way underestimating this, there's no way it will open with less than 70 million, the final number will be in between 70 and 90

[Shaner69]

1 hour ago, simplywohoo said:

I'm not that into cinema but is this not quite a lot ? 

Deadpool did 444 million. 

 

So this is really bad. 

Edited September 13 by Shaner69