celeb news Taylor hangs out with MAGA Supporters at US Open - the megathread

[Wicked]

4 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Perhaps I'm unfamiliar with him, and if so I'm willing to see evidence to the contrary. But as a mixed race black man with a gay brother, forgive me for assuming he has liberal values?  

Google Patrick Mahomes George Zimmerman and Patrick Mahomes Law Enforcement.

[Saintlor]

5 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Perhaps I'm unfamiliar with him, and if so I'm willing to see evidence to the contrary. But as a mixed race black man with a gay brother, forgive me for assuming he has liberal values?  

Many POCs sell out their values to grovel to white people, nothing new

[Antisocialites]

either way, this discussion about friends with different political opinions is kind of more nuanced and goes beyond Taylor and company. white people can allowed themselves to have different friends with different political opinions because at the end of the day everything will benefit them one way or another. while for non-white people is quite literally impossible because we couldn't simply coexist with someone that supports a politician that would rather see us dead. why would we have someone in our circle that goes against our culture, our people?

 

 

[Draper.]

The amount of excuses when Taylor could come out as a Trump supporter and nobody would unstan over that, just like most fanbases. 

[Walk_Away21]

The ******* essays and 13 pages over this?   PLEASE TOUCH GRASS. Dear god some of yall need a life

[19SLAYty9]

Wait… Amanda Santa is literally in the box with them and hugging Taylor too  she was at the dnc 

[Jay07]

5 minutes ago, Wicked said:

Google Patrick Mahomes George Zimmerman and Patrick Mahomes Law Enforcement.

Yeah the obvious question is if he is such a leftist and his wife is MAGA how do they get along? Not surprised he is not the beacon of virtue Taylor fans try to paint him as (with no evidence) to absolve her of all responsibility. 

[Space Cowboy]

Swifties: Her eyes are blue and that's how she subtly shows her support for Dems. Hope this helps!

[The7thStranger]

Remember when we cancelled Ellen for being friends with George Bush?

[PoisonedIvy]

4 minutes ago, Wicked said:

Google Patrick Mahomes George Zimmerman and Patrick Mahomes Law Enforcement.

Law enforcement is always one of those issues that doesn't fall neatly onto the left-right spectrum. There's a lot of nuance. I know where I stand (the American police force is a brutally racist and inept institution in need of dire reform), but I understand why people from the Midwest or the rural parts of the south (Patrick) would not hold that same ideal. I don't think that alone absolves him of having left leaning values.

 

The Zimmerman story is definitely upsetting. I don't think it indicates his political ideology per se, but it does reflect poorly on his grasp of racial injustices (at that time). At best I can hope that he's learned and grown from it, since that was 13 years ago. I still feel like his family and his actions have leaned more to the left than the right, but I do concede that he's had some questionable moral takes over the years.

[Burn]

2 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

Swifties: Her eyes are blue and that's how she subtly shows her support for Dems. Hope this helps!

Have they used the excuse of how this is setting up Reputation TV yet?

[Apolonio ₃₄]

This having 14 pages is sending me rn. Lemme catch up. 

[wastedpotential]

4 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

I don't think that means she secretly wants Trump to win. I just think her personal inconvenience is more important to her than... well, anything else. And that's just very sad and telling.

I'm sorry but if you're disappointed in Taylor acting out of her own self interest in 2024 I have a bridge to sell you 

 

It's squarely within her personal interests to not antagonize the wife of her boyfriend's best friend, status in the industry or not, and everything else aside 

[getBusy]

Republican but not MAGA

[wastedpotential]

11 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Do you socialize with all your coworkers, even the ones who have radically different worldviews than you and indirectly support your extinction or the extinction of those you supposedly care about? I understand tolerating someone for social reasons but actively socializing with them? This whitewashing of Taylor's selective inaction is starting to go a bit too far.

I mean, as far as anyone can tell, Travis or Patrick decided they wanted to go to the Open, then invited the other, and then each invited their significant other. I have indeed attended events with a friend of mine knowing that his bf's Trump-supporting family would be there. I didn't talk to them much, but I'm not gonna blow off an event I'd otherwise want to attend because I don't like a few of the people there, with whom I know I'll spend approximately 30 seconds. Perhaps the stakes are higher for Taylor and she should know better (and if that was the conversation being had here I'd have given a different response), but I'm not going to suddenly discount everything else Taylor has ever said about politics because she gave a girl a hug 

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Yeah the obvious question is if he is such a leftist and his wife is MAGA how do they get along? Not surprised he is not the beacon of virtue Taylor fans try to paint him as (with no evidence) to absolve her of all responsibility. 

There's plenty of couples with differing political ideologies. Have yall ever met people? Maybe yall are sheltered. I live in Texas and it's not uncommon for republicans and democrats to get together. The political divide isn't supposed to actually separate us that much. Trump has just taken things way too far with his fascist agenda. 

[Clauss]

I strongly advise people to have a social circle that differs from your perspective. It really helps to expand your understanding. You are not a better person if you just met with people you "get along with" in certain political or religious things. This thread is a clear view of why the United States is in such a bipolar position. You don't know how to get along past your differences, and that is why democracy is failing 

[More Than A Melody]

3 minutes ago, Antisocialites said:

either way, this discussion about friends with different political opinions is kind of more nuanced and goes beyond Taylor and company. white people can allowed themselves to have different friends with different political opinions because at the end of the day everything will benefit them one way or another. while for non-white people is quite literally impossible because we couldn't simply coexist with someone that supports a politician that would rather see us dead. why would we have someone in our circle that goes against our culture, our people?

 

 

I don't believe in guilt by association 99.99% of the time. I'm queer and have a girlfriend and yet, to certain friends I'm not out and they're not... supportive, let's say. But they're childhood friends who I think have been misguided by upbringing or religious views. Those views affect me personally, but I don't think they're intrinsically bad people, just ignorant or wrong. I'm able to separate because of who they are and what they meant for me growing up.

 

So I can just look the other way in most cases like this. I don't know these people. They might have a good reason to not want to part ways with a friend with "problematic" opinions. It might be a sign of privilege or it might just be that strong of a bond. It's definitely a nuanced conversation.

 

But I just think there are a few extreme cases, like this one. We know Taylor didn't know Brittany a year ago. And we know even if she had that strong of a bond for whatever reason, she could just... not make that friendship public (and I'd argue that even the Rhode Island visit wasn't as much of a slap in the face because she's not to blame for long lens photographers). But there's literally no valid excuse for this. She knew exactly what the optics were, and she didn't care.

 

I'm giving her a ton of leeway, but she still comes up short because of how dire the situation is. I don't think there's a defense for this one. That's her choice, and I personally have lost all respect for her. Not that she cares or that it'll affect her.

[SlayianaGrenade]

16 minutes ago, Sugar-Rush said:

I can't speak for everyone else, but this hug coupled by the fact that she hasn't shown support for Kamala in this election cycle so far afaik and didn't condemn Trump for using her AI likeliness publicly either just paints a depressing picture. I'm not "disgusted" by who she socializes with, I'm just disappointed that she hasn't taken a stance and is trying to appeal to everyone as the safe option. It's what she did during the beginning of her career and I just thought we were past the fence-sitting by now.

Thank you for your point of view as a fan. I'll gladly eat my words if Kamala does not show up to the Era's Tour in October, or she doesn't give an endorsement at all. I just think as a non- fan I don't expect certain things from her cause she's at least to me, always shown who she was. A calculated individual that meets the moment when necessary in helping her career. I just personally don't think cause she hangs out with them or doesn't make a statement on Trump means she's supporting him. But you likely know more about her than me. 

[More Than A Melody]

3 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

I'm sorry but if you're disappointed in Taylor acting out of her own self interest in 2024 I have a bridge to sell you 

 

It's squarely within her personal interests to not antagonize the wife of her boyfriend's best friend, status in the industry or not, and everything else aside 

I'm disappointed that she chose to do that when the context is that Trump has explicitly said he wants millions deported, a national abortion ban, possibly banning birth control, and even as far as a dictatorship.

 

Do you not think this is a little different than her usual white feminism? I mean, why am I asking this question from a Swiftie? Let's just stop wasting each other's time.

[Jay07]

1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said:

There's plenty of couples with differing political ideologies. Have yall ever met people? Maybe yall are sheltered. I live in Texas and it's not uncommon for republicans and democrats to get together. The political divide isn't supposed to actually separate us that much. Trump has just taken things way too far with his fascist agenda. 

No, I'm sorry, the touch grass excuse doesn't fly here and no, I cannot imagine "leftist" (the word you used) and MAGA people being able to compromise those views. Independent and conservative sure, progessive and democrat maybe but leftist getting together with fascist (again your own descriptor of the MAGA movement) nope. And looking at the stuff posted above, Mahomes is no leftist, that was your wishful thinking.

[Archetype]

14 pages over a damn hug?  This site needs mandatory therapy sessions for some users   

[wastedpotential]

12 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

Again, I am shocked at Taylor fans willing to immolate themselves at her altar. I guarantee Gaga, Beyonce, Ariana, Billie fans would be the first to call them out for socializing with a known Trumper. Gaga fans blame Gaga for her own father  but Taylor fans will twist themselves into pretzels to claim their fave is completely innocent, pure and always has the best intentions no matter what, even when her actions say otherwise. Again, the Trump post claiming her endorsement is still up. Do you ever hold her accountable for anything or is it just protect at all costs?

I caught this before you edited, but to this, I'd say that people in the fanbase absolutely do have negative things to say and are making their opinions known other places. Go look on Twitter and you'll find more than a few prominent Swifties disavowing this as a bad call (a few have been posted in this thread already). The only reason why I feel the need to run interference for her here is because I know most here are arguing in bad faith and are just looking for stan points. My responses would be different if the first several pages of this thread weren't littered up and down with people calling her a secret closet Trump supporter. 

 

As for the Trump post, and I'm getting tired of repeating this point, that was less than three weeks ago, this is an entirely unregulated legal field and any viable case will take time to assemble (especially when the opponent also has strong counsel and may also have literally been the person to appoint the judge hearing the case (). I think everyone with a modicum of knowledge about her legal team and her litigation history is assuming they're working on something. Would I have liked a statement? Yeah, but I know the lack thereof was intentional and it's too late now. Feel free to @ me after the election if it turns out that she wasn't doing anything against Trump and never said anything for Kamala once the tour wrapped, I'll be happy to eat crow and bow out of these fights for a while. For the time being, I do feel confident giving her the benefit of the doubt. 

[aotearoa]

Not me opening the thread expecting Taylor hugging Lana del Rey lmao 

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

No, I'm sorry, the touch grass excuse doesn't fly here and no, I cannot imagine "leftist" (the word you used) and MAGA people being able to compromise those views. Independent and conservative sure, progessive and democrat maybe but leftist getting together with fascist (again your own descriptor of the MAGA movement) nope. And looking at the stuff posted above, Mahomes is no leftist, that was your wishful thinking.

Is Brittany really the January 6 type of MAGAt or is she just a Conservative by upbringing? I genuinely don't know, and I feel like yall are giving a lot of flack to a midwestern white girl for being republican when let's be real.. that's the statistical majority of them.
 

Taylor is ironically the anomaly here and that's largely due to her career in the arts, where she meets people from all walks of life. Brittany, on the other hand, has only ever lived in her privileged bubble and it's more likely that it just hasn't popped than it is that she is a disciple of fascism hoping for the fall of modern democracy.