More Than A Melody Posted September 8 Posted September 8 2 hours ago, MissedTheTrain said: I kinda wish people would realize the hard truth that....it's likely that you're going to encounter Trump supporters in your life, and you're going to find yourself in circles with people who support him (especially in athletics). Taylor and Brittany became friendly over a year ago through going to these games to watch their partners who are teammates. They're at a game. Sometimes, it's easier to just be cordial and friendly rather than shun someone in public (and I'm quite sure a lot of people having dramatic reactions to something like this would not have those same reactions in their own public lives). I'd get some of the reactions if she was hanging out with like, Ivanka Trump or Candace Owens. But this is not quite that. We know where Taylor (and Travis) stand. Hey so this is crazy because this was four days ago And she has no history with this woman. She's not a childhood friend. She's not family. This isn't even a game where she can't avoid her. There was legit no need for her to lovingly embrace a woman who was shouted out by Trump four days ago. This is indefensible. 1 1
Atlantis Posted September 8 Posted September 8 This thread being a swiftie cirlce jerk Makes sense though looking at the excuses, at this point everybody knows it's pointless to reason with people like... that. The excuses are funny, like you guys still can't decide if Taylor is this powerful girlboss or a naive uwu small bean that needs to be protected at all times. 2 2
Dear Reader Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Just now, Sannie said: Yeah, I'll be honest, that was gross of me and I jumped to a stupidly ignorant conclusion before knowing the full details. I am sorry for that. Yet, here you are again, doing the same thing. You don't know this woman. You know what you want to believe in. I actually believe you regret that very disgusting comment, but you're repeating your pattern by affirming Taylor Swift is a republican without knowing it for sure and having proof of the exact opposite, over a hug. She has said that she's silent about many issues to preserve her fans well-being on her tour.
family.guy123 Posted September 8 Posted September 8 10 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: If you actually believe that Taylor Swift's political views have shifted so significantly in the last few years as to support Donald Trump because she hugged a woman she knows who supports him, then there's really no discussion to be had and nothing is going to convince you otherwise. I understand how that might feel like a betrayal and how giving even an inch to his supporters is dangerous for many of us who are part of marginalized communities. I am personally confident that she will make clear (again) when it is right, safe, and impactful to do so that she is (still) on the right side of history with the rest of us. Some people choose to believe actions, some people choose to believe words it's not like there's much evidence for either side anyway regardless, we truly don't know what uneducated celebrities support, and we shouldn't care
PoisonedIvy Posted September 8 Posted September 8 Just now, Sannie said: I can't speak for others, but I don't even care that she hugged that girl... But her other actions, again, speak louder than her words. Her silence on Trump using her is what confirms she, at the very least, doesn't mind people thinking she's a Republican. Yeah, I'll be honest, that was gross of me and I jumped to a stupidly ignorant conclusion before knowing the full details. I am sorry for that. We don't "think", we know. You guys do realize actions speak louder than words, right? We're not talking about some random person off the street, we're talking about a massively famous popstar who has spent tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars to build her brand and craft a narrative about who she is and what she supports. Not pushing back on Donald ******* Trump claiming you support him is a very obviously clear sign that she doesn't have a problem with that narrative circulating. And why would she not have a problem with it if it's at least not partially true, or she doesn't think it would benefit her in some way? You can't rely on something she said four years ago to carry her through the rest of her life. We are in a different election cycle. If you're high-profile, you either make your voice clear when it comes to who you support or your actions will tell us the truth. JUST BECAUSE THE PUSH BACK IS NOT PUBLIC DOES NOT MEAN IT DOES NOT EXIST. "Let me be very clear: I am not going to speak about something publicly if I think doing so might provoke those who would want to harm the fans who come to my shows." — Taylor Swift just a few short weeks ago. She will speak on it when she chooses to, but in the meantime the perceived action seems to be that whatever happened behind the scenes with her legal team and Trump's led to him ceasing to post any more AI images of her. That's all the action she needs to take at the moment until it's safe for her to say and do more. 4 2
LittleStarmen Posted September 8 Posted September 8 shes a public figure . every aspect of her career har been thought by a team of 20 people. this is a sign that she is ok supporting tr*mp
Tayman Posted September 8 Posted September 8 You people need to touch some grass, even for just a minute it will help you. You will always have friends with different political views unless you start all your interactions with a political question, and then decide to be directly rude everytime you encounter them, which makes you a really really dense person that I don't want around. 1 1
ATRL Moderator Oxygen Posted September 8 ATRL Moderator Posted September 8 It’s a bit daft to suggest that Taylor hugging Brittany makes her a Trump supporter or a Republican. It still doesn’t negate how spineless she has been in being silent in this upcoming election. Trump threatens rights she has consistently stood up for in the past and she has said fuck all. 6
More Than A Melody Posted September 8 Posted September 8 7 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: Hugging Brittany does not make Taylor a republican. Anyone claiming this is off base, but people acting like her lovingly embracing someone shouted out by Trump four days ago is not a big deal because she also hugged a random democrat has genuinely lost their damn minds. 3 1
PoisonedIvy Posted September 8 Posted September 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Atlantis said: This thread being a swiftie cirlce jerk Makes sense though looking at the excuses, at this point everybody knows it's pointless to reason with people like... that. The excuses are funny, like you guys still can't decide if Taylor is this powerful girlboss or a naive uwu small bean that needs to be protected at all times. She's a "powerful girlboss" (cringe phrase but I'm using it since you did) tasked with keeping hundreds of thousands of small beans safe and protected at all times during the duration of her world tour. Can you wrap your head around that? The fact that one wrong political statement could lead to the slaughter of dozens of thousands of innocent men women and children? No. You can't fathom that. No one should have to. But she does and that's why I don't question her political silence. She has made her ideologies clear. Anything else is delusion. Edited September 8 by PoisonedIvy 3 2
PoisonedIvy Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 minute ago, More Than A Melody said: Anyone claiming this is off base, but people acting like her lovingly embracing someone shouted out by Trump four days ago is not a big deal because she also hugged a random democrat has genuinely lost their damn minds. Anyone acting like anyone hugging anyone means anything more than common courtesy and social etiquette is ridiculous, I agree. Hugs don't transfer values and ideology. They don't even indicate general agreement. It is just a courtesy, a greeting. 5 1
sciencemagic Posted September 8 Posted September 8 8 minutes ago, Sannie said: I can't speak for others, but I don't even care that she hugged that girl... But her other actions, again, speak louder than her words. Her silence on Trump using her is what confirms she, at the very least, doesn't mind people thinking she's a Republican. Yeah, I'll be honest, that was gross of me and I jumped to a stupidly ignorant conclusion before knowing the full details. I am sorry for that. We don't "think", we know. You guys do realize actions speak louder than words, right? We're not talking about some random person off the street, we're talking about a massively famous popstar who has spent tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars to build her brand and craft a narrative about who she is and what she supports. Not pushing back on Donald ******* Trump claiming you support him is a very obviously clear sign that she doesn't have a problem with that narrative circulating. And why would she not have a problem with it if it's at least not partially true, or she doesn't think it would benefit her in some way? You can't rely on something she said four years ago to carry her through the rest of her life. We are in a different election cycle. If you're high-profile, you either make your voice clear when it comes to who you support or your actions will tell us the truth. So why hasn't she endorsed trump then? If she's so obviously a trumpie??
Vixen Eyes Posted September 8 Posted September 8 2 hours ago, Jay07 said: I'm more disgusted with whatever is happening on Travis' head in that picture. you can blame the Gucci company for choosing those colours as part of their trademark 1
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted September 8 ATRL Moderator Posted September 8 3 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: And she has no history with this woman. She's not a childhood friend. She's not family. This isn't even a game where she can't avoid her. There was legit no need for her to lovingly embrace a woman who was shouted out by Trump four days ago. This is indefensible. She has history with this woman from the past year. She is her boyfriend's teammate/friend's wife. She has been in circles with her due to that for the past year, and has been around her at tons of games. You're acting like she's never seen her before that Trump thing. They're at a sporting event, she gave her a hug to greet her. Just like she gave Este Haim a hug, Laura Sisk a hug, and Amanda Santa: It's like some of you want the world to be even more divided than we already are and we can no longer give a quick cordial greeting to someone in public I have coworkers who are Trumpsters, but I'm cordial and polite with them in public. I greet them at events. It's MUCH easier than being rude and going out of my way to avoid and/or shun them (which ultimately does nothing). It doesn't mean that I agree with them, it just means I'm a cordial adult. 4 2 1
Shinning Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 hour ago, MistressKay said: Yall can't be serious there men play on the same damn team. Was she supposed to give her the cold shoulder? she can hug the woman and still vote democrat lol Yes 1 1
More Than A Melody Posted September 8 Posted September 8 1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said: Anyone acting like anyone hugging anyone means anything more than common courtesy and social etiquette is ridiculous, I agree. Hugs don't transfer values and ideology. They don't even indicate general agreement. It is just a courtesy, a greeting. I have never seen anyone bend over backwards this way to defend indefensible situations before. Like, never in my life. It's as if it'd legitimately end your life to acknowledge that she could've just not hugged Trump's new BFF. 1 minute ago, PoisonedIvy said: She's a "powerful girlboss" (cringe phrase but I'm using it since you did) tasked with keeping hundreds of thousands of small beans safe and protected at all times during the duration of her world tour. Can you wrap your head around that? The fact that one wrong political statement could lead to the slaughter of dozens of thousands of innocent men women and children? No. You can't fathom that. No one should have to. But she does and that's why I don't question her political silence. She has made her ideologies clear. Anything else is delusion. She's a powerful woman whose actions can genuinely affect the outcome of an election that's in less than three months. People are voting/registering to vote right now. What do you think is gonna happen at her concert if she says "hey, so I did not endorse Trump"? That's all she had to say, I'm not even saying she should hold a rally against him lmfao. Also, she could SO easily just... not hug Brittany Mahomes. Just... don't hug her. 1 4
Into The Void Posted September 8 Posted September 8 doesnt matter her political affiliation has nothing to do with mine 1
wastedpotential Posted September 8 Posted September 8 4 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said: Anyone claiming this is off base, but people acting like her lovingly embracing someone shouted out by Trump four days ago is not a big deal because she also hugged a random democrat has genuinely lost their damn minds. Taylor has never gone to the US Open before, and has never shown much interest in tennis. To that effect, I'm assuming that Travis or Patrick Mahomes wanted to go, invited their best friend, and then they both brought their significant others You're acting as if this was some masterplanned PR move from Taylor's side to redeem Brittany or whatever The NFL has pretty clear informal policies about the families of their players all getting along, and even without that pressure, Travis and Patrick are very good friends who just so happen to hold jobs that require them to be on very good terms with each other, and I don't think Taylor would want to go out of her way to make things awkward for them (or to do damage to her own relationship with Travis) by outright refusing to greet a woman she's met well over a dozen times with a hug. Brittany being recognized by Trump hasn't changed any of those factors 4 2
Wicked Posted September 8 Posted September 8 45 minutes ago, Teen Spirit said: I'm not a POC. I'm a black woman. Hope this helps. 🫶 I'm glad you said this. They keep doing that "POC" talk when a very specific POV is at play and it's purposeful. OT: Why would I be disgusted she's not my friend. I'm not surprised. 2
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