celeb news Elton John compares Taylor Swift to The Beatles in a new interview

[BOOMBAYAH]

Kinda need R&B to take over America again so we can have black pop girls in the mainstream again like the 00s.

[DonnaSpring]

25 minutes ago, Shimenawa said:

Did he forgot about MJ & Madonna ?

He is rude about Madonna and jelous of MJ

[Mariya Takeuchi]

[Apolonio ₃₄]

38 minutes ago, Sheep said:

Didn't he praise Trump in the same interview?

Oop. Well I- 

[Doctor Dick]

30 minutes ago, Feanor said:

The media, veteran acts & journalists who've lived through decades of pop culture, chart companies who've been tracking music success for longer than most people here have been alive … they've all put "Taylormania" in the same breath as the biggest phenomenons of music history like The Beatles, but trust stans to believe they know better because "Taylor has no #1 in Montenegro!!!". 

 

32 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

Let me guess… she's lacking in the Twitter vibes department, right? 

Taylor is indeed a phenomenon but every decade or so we have artists being compared to the ones of the past. MJ's own child said Beyoncé was the new Michael Jackson and the whole industry just as @Feanor mentioned was also calling Lady Gaga the new Madonna. So good on Elton, he thinks that but neither will ever match or surpass those legends. 

Edited September 7 by Doctor Dick

[RobynYoBank]

There's no one else to compare her to at this point. 
 

[HardBambi]

She is comparable chart wise and I prefer her 😅

[ricardoazevedo]

58 minutes ago, TayDuaStan said:

Yes he saw.... multiple ones, Madonna, MJ, Mariah, Whitney to name some. Madonna and MJ at their peak where much higher than Taylor. All without social media. Elton is just licking Taylor shoes...

[Doctor Dick]

7 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said:

There's no one else to compare her to at this point. 
 

One of the reasons is that she has more in common with The Beatles than MJ or Madonna. Like the Beatles, her strongest suit is her lyricism and songwriting. She also frequently releases. She can't be compared to MJ properly because she lacks his impact and doesn't dance or sing as good as he did. She can't be Madonna because she lacks the controversy and re-inventions. She's being compared to The Beatles because she has more in common with them than the other legends. It's not only the popularity. 

[Hector]

4 minutes ago, ricardoazevedo said:

Yes he saw.... multiple ones, Madonna, MJ, Mariah, Whitney to name some. Madonna and MJ at their peak where much higher than Taylor. All without social media. Elton is just licking Taylor shoes...

And I still remember that he bashed Madonna and Janet Jackson multiple times and was best friends with Rush Limbaugh so he was not always the be all and end all of great advice. 

[ricardoazevedo]

4 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

One of the reasons is that she has more in common with The Beatles than MJ or Madonna. Like the Beatles, her strongest suit is her lyricism and songwriting. She also frequently releases. She can't be compared to MJ properly because she lacks his impact and doesn't dance or sing as good as he did. She can't be Madonna because she lacks the controversy and re-inventions. She's being compared to The Beatles because she has more in common with them than the other legends. It's not only the popularity. 

Reducing MJ to impact and Madonna to reinvention and scandal? And their body of work? Di she have a better song than Like A Prayer or Beat It? No.

[Teen Spirit]

Taylormania 

[The Music Industry]

It's funny how quick people here are to dismiss any praise Taylor gets from industry tenors (Carole King, Elton John, Dolly Parton, Billy Joel, Paul McCartney, etc). Whether ATRL admits it or not, Taylor is revered by her peers. There's a reason why she's the only artist in history to win the most prestigious peer-given award in the music industry four times. Y'all look like fools always trying to discredit her acclaim and respect

[Doctor Dick]

35 minutes ago, ricardoazevedo said:

Reducing MJ to impact and Madonna to reinvention and scandal? And their body of work? Di she have a better song than Like A Prayer or Beat It? No.

No, she doesn't have as good songs as those. But this whole convo is stupid because of one logical thing that her fans keep forgetting: Taylor CANNOT be as big as The Beatles or MJ simply for the reason that they had homosexuals and straights being massive fans in massive numbers along with women and young girls. Taylor maybe has a few straight male fans but it's nowhere near those of MJ or The Beatles so by that alone she can't compete with them. 

 

The Beatles and MJ had millions upon millions of women and young girls as fans along with millions upon millions of straight males and young straight boys. Taylor doesn't have that last demo. 

Edited September 7 by Doctor Dick

[Starchild]

7 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

It's funny how quick people here are to dismiss any praise Taylor gets from industry tenors (Carole King, Elton John, Dolly Parton, Billy Joel, Paul McCartney, etc). Whether ATRL admits it or not, Taylor is revered by her peers. There's a reason why she's the only artist in history to win the most prestigious peer-given award in the music industry four times. Y'all look like fools always trying to discredit her acclaim and respect

This hellscape can't even read past 2 sentences of course they hate her here 

 

Idk why everyone has a dildo up their ass when it comes to her,

as if mj the Beatles and Madonna aren't pop artists?, who else has the pull taylor has had for 20 years?

 

he's also talking about NEW ARTISTS/MORE RECENT THAN THE 80/90s where most gays here are stuck in 

they really are just dense on purpose like this user that I've seen still hating on her for years atp:

35 minutes ago, ricardoazevedo said:

Reducing MJ to impact and Madonna to reinvention and scandal? And their body of work? Di she have a better song than Like A Prayer or Beat It? No.

As if mj didn't tarnish the hell out of his legacy too 

[Lemon]

5 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

No, she doesn't have as good songs as those. But this whole convo is stupid because of one logical thing that her fans keep forgetting: Taylor CANNOT be as big as The Beatles or MJ simply for the reason that they had homosexuals and straight being massive fans in massive numbers along with women and young girls. Taylor maybe has a few straight male fans but it's nowhere near those of MJ or The Beatles so by that alone she can't compete with them. 

Straight women/girls are the biggest demographic for pop music and pop culture though. They are literally the principal consumers of it. In fact, that demographic was the most ride or die for The Beatles, Elvis Presley, etc. Other straight demographics were/are pulled in by default. 

Edited September 7 by Lemon

[Doctor Dick]

1 minute ago, Lemon said:

Straight women/girls are the biggest demographic for pop music and pop culture though. They are literally the principal consumers of it. In fact, that demographic was the most ride or die for The Beatles, Elvis Presley, etc. Other straight demographics were/are pulled in by default. 

Yes but that doesn't change the fact that Michael Jackson had fans that were the combination of Taylor Swift (women, teen girls) and something like Marvel (straight men, straight teen boys). In other words Taylor Swift has women, teens, LGBTQ+ and kids while MJ and The Beatles had women, teens, LGBTQ+, kids, straight men and straight teen boys.

 

Male acts will ALWAYS have a better chokehold on the straight demo which is why no one woman in the history of music will ever have as big a peak as the biggest male peak. Simply because of them never being able to have a chokehold on the heterosexual demo. And MJ was super lucky that he on top of that catered to women and teens as well. He was the literal combination of Taylor Swift + a boy group + Justin Bieber. 

[dussel_06]

She's the biggest artist of the 21st century, by far, so it just make sense.

[Lemon]

23 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said:

Yes but that doesn't change the fact that Michael Jackson had fans that were the combination of Taylor Swift (women, teen girls) and something like Marvel (straight men, straight teen boys). In other words Taylor Swift has women, teens, LGBTQ+ and kids while MJ and The Beatles had women, teens, LGBTQ+, kids, straight men and straight teen boys.

 

Male acts will ALWAYS have a better chokehold on the straight demo which is why no one woman in the history of music will ever have as big a peak as the biggest male peak. Simply because of them never being able to have a chokehold on the heterosexual demo. And MJ was super lucky that he on top of that catered to women and teens as well. He was the literal combination of Taylor Swift + a boy group + Justin Bieber. 

I don't think your equalization of straight demographics actually works. You are also severely separating straight women and strange men and it seems that when you are referring to "straight", you subtly mean "men" thus neglecting actual important subset right there - women. 

Like straight women/girls are covering pop music and culture in a way that simply can't equal to how it is consumed by straight men/boys.
When someone points to a fact that straight women are main demographic of pop music, that means it is the case by large. 
 

If we want to be pedantic, everyone mentioned here has/had been driven by straight women by large percentage. 
And if we want to be more pedantic, the artist in question is The Beatles whose crowds clearly demonstrate core driving force in pop music. 

 

[slw84]

Legends know legends and collaborate with them, too.

 

Run that Taylor & Elton #1 duet. It's time.

[burninredhot]

3 hours ago, Mariya Takeuchi said:

Well you know that's not true with the amount of bored ******* whining in this thread

[landof0oo]

5 hours ago, Fleahive said:

But I thought he said Gaga was the only superstar of today? 

People are fickle, their taste is fickle, favour fame and fortune are fickle.

 

Change is the only constant. Eventually everyone fades into oblivion.

 

 

 

[TayDuaStan]

10 hours ago, Cheers said:

Rihanna did sell it out.

I can't see the numbers for the Wembley date (they weren't reported, i don't know why ) but the Anti tour wasn't sold out. Most of the dates have an attendance of around 90%, some dates even as low as 40%  

Shocking for someone you claim should be included in the same category as The Beatles 

[Doctor Dick]

19 hours ago, Lemon said:

I don't think your equalization of straight demographics actually works. You are also severely separating straight women and strange men and it seems that when you are referring to "straight", you subtly mean "men" thus neglecting actual important subset right there - women. 

Like straight women/girls are covering pop music and culture in a way that simply can't equal to how it is consumed by straight men/boys.
When someone points to a fact that straight women are main demographic of pop music, that means it is the case by large. 
 

If we want to be pedantic, everyone mentioned here has/had been driven by straight women by large percentage. 
And if we want to be more pedantic, the artist in question is The Beatles whose crowds clearly demonstrate core driving force in pop music. 

 

I think we're talking about two different things. I get your point and it's how pop culture works but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Michael Jackson had the demo you speak of in a chokehold but he also had heterosexual men on board that would STAN him as much as they stan football or Marvel. Taylor does not have that demo. No female has. Even the video you posted has STRAIGHT men lined up to see The Beatles, loving their music in droves. Taylor Swift doesn't have that. Any man who goes crazy and STANS Taylor is gay. Her music and her image doesn't cater to straight little boys and grown men. If you saw a boy or a grown man's room covered in posters by Taylor Swift you'd assume he was gay. MJ and The Beatles had every demo in a chokehold and straight guys would wear clothes with Michael on them and have posters on the wall of him and they would STAN him:

 

 

 

Michael had straight guys wanting to have clothes like his, kids were wearing his gloves to school and stores would sell MJ clothes because the demand from straight and gay men was so huge. Small boys, grown men, gay and straight in DROVES aside from the female and teen demo you spoke of would STAN Michael and The Beatles. Taylor does not have that. 

Edited September 8 by Doctor Dick

[IBeMe]

And he was around back then so he would know! 
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