ahauntingnearu Posted August 25 Posted August 25 God she's so beyond lame. I'm truly embarrassed for her 1
Popular Post Bad_vocal_technique Posted August 25 Popular Post Posted August 25 (edited) And whose gaze would this be? Edited August 25 by Bad_vocal_technique 19
Popular Post Cain Posted August 25 Popular Post Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Jay07 said: I don't understand this belated rebrand into an LGBTQ artist when she has never courted that market in her entire career and it's clearly too late now. Did someone just now tell her gay men are loyal or something? This, like nowhere in her career was there a symbiotic relationship between her and the queer community other than the subsection of gay men that stanned her, which is literally a package deal that comes with being a popgirl. If there's a new popgirl born into the pop landscape there WILL be gay men picking her as their online avatar to live through vicariously But other than that she's never created queer art or specified any part of her career to the community, not during any of her era's, even TD. The closest thing we got I guess was Firework, but in 2010 that was one of the many 'uwu just be yourself!' products that came out of the pop songwriter factory It's weird to pivot towards this 'slaying gay icon' branding for this era, cause that's never been her and that's not a fanbase she can fall back on 20
AvadaKedavra Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) It was actually the biggest mistake of this era. She catered to the gays and the gays are fake. They switch they switch She thought coming with dance bops, dr luke,sexy body and long black hair = The gays will love me It would have been better for her to follow her heart and release music for the sake of artistry katy is really lost with all the things the gays really like.............She's following a bunch of fans on twitter with very desilusional or old fashioned views of the pop world. So many Stans from her live in the early 2010s and stan wars and been askin for dance bops. (Yaaas queen Yaaas) Follow some ATRLERS queen. Our software has the 2020s updates Edited August 25 by AvadaKedavra 3 2
Bussea Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) so she's admitting she's homophobic? Edited August 25 by Bussea 3 1
Planet Mars Posted August 25 Posted August 25 10 minutes ago, Cain said: This, like nowhere in her career was there a symbiotic relationship between her and the queer community other than the subsection of gay men that stanned her, which is literally a package deal that comes with being a popgirl. If there's a new popgirl born into the pop landscape there WILL be gay men picking her as their online avatar to live through vicariously But other than that she's never created queer art or specified any part of her career to the community, not during any of her era's, even TD. The closest thing we got I guess was Firework, but in 2010 that was one of the many 'uwu just be yourself!' products that came out of the pop songwriter factory It's weird to pivot towards this 'slaying gay icon' branding for this era, cause that's never been her and that's not a fanbase she can fall back on I mean, she had 2 men kiss in the Firework video back in 2010, and as a 14 year old boy that moment really did stand out to me. Most mega female pop stars at the end of the day have major gay fanbases. She isn't a Gaga, Beyoncé, Britney or Ariana but she definitely has (or had) a gay following. I do see where y'all are coming from though. 4
AvadaKedavra Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) I disagree with some of the opinions here, probably because the people sharing them are too young to remember or they just hate the artist Back in 2008, the general public was still very homophobic. Katy Perry came from a religious background with overly conservative parents. Yet she went against her family's beliefs and released a song, "I Kissed a Girl." Even if some find it vapid, the song was hugely significant for many closeted lesbians. I know some personally who have said that it helped them feel better about themselves and coming out She was like chappel roan in that sense. Katy doubled down on her support and was consistently an ally to the LGBTQ+ community at a time when supporting gay rights wasn't necessarily beneficial for her career. She always spoke positively about the community, and her love for them was evident late in videos like "Unconditionally" and her "Swish Swish" heels performance-Witness livestream inviting so many LGBTI personalities. She released the video for "Firework," featuring gay couples, which was hugely important for the community and the teen gays of that time. 3th single. Risky move and could have been a "Teenage Dream era" destroyer. This is similar to what Taylor Swift did with "Mean," Lady Gaga with her pro-LGBTQ+ activism-albums, Rihanna with "Te Amo," Kesha with "We R Who We R," Shakira with "She Wolf" (shaki decicated this one to the community and Loba is actually a gay anthem in LAT), Beyoncé with "Single Ladies," and Pink with "Raise Your Glass..........ETC These women had ballz and supported the community at a time when the world was still very conservative and our community was a big taboo. We owe them a lot for the big spike in gay rights in the early 2010s and for helping to normalize gay content in the music industry-entertainment world, especially Gaga, who was as influential as Madonna and did so so much and people sometimes want to delete her legacy with the LGBTI when she was a before-after. So, people here deleting history. Not sittin well with me Edited August 25 by AvadaKedavra 8
Sugar-Rush Posted August 25 Posted August 25 Quote Rihanna with "Te Amo," Are we really putting this song in the same category as actual LGBT-friendly songs when the entire theme of Te Amo is about a straight woman turning down a lesbian? 1 1
halcyonday Posted August 25 Posted August 25 57 minutes ago, Cain said: This, like nowhere in her career was there a symbiotic relationship between her and the queer community other than the subsection of gay men that stanned her, which is literally a package deal that comes with being a popgirl. If there's a new popgirl born into the pop landscape there WILL be gay men picking her as their online avatar to live through vicariously But other than that she's never created queer art or specified any part of her career to the community, not during any of her era's, even TD. The closest thing we got I guess was Firework, but in 2010 that was one of the many 'uwu just be yourself!' products that came out of the pop songwriter factory It's weird to pivot towards this 'slaying gay icon' branding for this era, cause that's never been her and that's not a fanbase she can fall back on IKAG was literally groundbreaking even if some people call it queerbaiting, it was still in 2008 when she could've been cancelling for singing about it in a pop song and showing it in a positive light. And having gays kiss in Firework (song about self love) and then also have them in Unconditionally (song about unconditional love) is nothing? She's also a founder of the Firework Foundition that helps kids, queer kids too. She never had to be the biggest gay icon, but she was a part of many gays growing up. She was even mentioned in one of the early RuPaul seasons as part of the our history. And was awarded for her work, because not every pop girl was vocal with her support towards gays like her. https://www.capitalfm.com/artists/katy-perry/news/hero-award-the-trevor-project/ And there's more https://www.billboard.com/culture/pride/katy-perry-support-lgbtq-community-7889857/ Just because you don't follow her news it doesn't mean she didn't do some work for the community. 1 1
Popular Post fa77ot Posted August 25 Popular Post Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Bussea said: so she's admitting she's homophobic? 32
AvadaKedavra Posted August 25 Posted August 25 19 minutes ago, Sugar-Rush said: Are we really putting this song in the same category as actual LGBT-friendly songs when the entire theme of Te Amo is about a straight woman turning down a lesbian? So hot
burninredhot Posted August 25 Posted August 25 You can tell she has no idea how to appeal to Gen Z when you see this wordplay. She was always the queen of being goofy but it's become cringe now 7
YourFavoriteWeapon Posted August 25 Posted August 25 Gay men don't even like her anymore. No one does. 1
TipToe Posted August 25 Posted August 25 3 hours ago, BOOMBAYAH said: Male gay gaze is still a male gaze lol !!! Also, if it's for male gays is it NOT for female gays? Is she against lesbianisme? Oh Katy...
SupremeGoddess Posted August 25 Posted August 25 4 hours ago, popmusicisdead said: Stonewall threw a brick back at her it must have hit her in the head then, typical concussion behavior
aesthetic bih Posted August 25 Posted August 25 It's amusing that she thinks the gays still worship her after the Dr. Luke fiasco lmao
aesthetic bih Posted August 25 Posted August 25 31 minutes ago, YourFavoriteWeapon said: Gay men don't even like her anymore. No one does. She's so out of touch, God bless ha. Props to her confidence to keep with the era even though it's unsalvageable 1
Jay07 Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) Not people bringing up I Kissed A Girl, the most stereotypical "oooh I try bisexuality on as a costume when I'm drunk" performative bicuriosity anthem for the male gaze (the lyric is literally "hope my boyfriend don't mind it") as an example of allyship. I'll be charitable and not even mention You're So Gay. Katy Perry was probably the most heteronormative popstar since Taylor Swift and her magical prince fairytales. Edited August 25 by Jay07 14
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