bielneira Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Sputnik loves to drag artists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxoonlight Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Irrelevant flops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny789 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 The mentioning of Olivia really makes the review lose all credibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerveAksak Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Her writing isn't good but also it isn't BAD. She is like the definiton of vanilla (espresso) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crf13 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 hours ago, Shinning said: She absolutely has more edge than Sabrina. Neither are edgy… Olivia Rodrigo is a very SAFE. Every single Taylor daughter is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letemtalk Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Critic Score 66 Based on 7 reviews https://www.albumoftheyear.org/album/975997-sabrina-carpenter-short-n-sweet.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseBud Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 18 minutes ago, Letemtalk said: Critic Score 66 Based on 7 reviews https://www.albumoftheyear.org/album/975997-sabrina-carpenter-short-n-sweet.php These polls are all rigged. I want a recount ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bethenny Frankel Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 the album is cute but I only like half of it, big step down from her last effort 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bends Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/88944/Sabrina-Carpenter-Short-N-Sweet/ Sputnik gave 2 out 5 (40). "Review Summary: Short, but not as sweet as advertised" --- I think Miss Katy will get, like, 20 Metacritic score for 143. Poptimism is over. Edited August 24 by Bends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Groove Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I didnt even know the girl before Espresso, so i listened to this album not expecting anything a part from the very good singles. And sorry but this have more personality than all the Swifts and Rodriguos COMBINED The girl has a good voice, has a funny and fizzy attitude, some very catchy tunes. This is far from a masterpiece but it's way better than 90% of recent Pop girls attempts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 9 minutes ago, thatsmydemi said: Review threads are super common. Where have you been all this time? I'm not doing something weird or special. What are you talking about? Pressed about what? I'm posting ALL the reviews the album is getting. Positive, mixed or negative as long as they count for metacritic. That's the point of Review threads, which are made for almost every album by a pop girl out there in this forum. Y'all are weird as ****. And FYI, I like both girls. Ddd mama chill the Sputnik review thread lashing her got merged into this one which where our posts were from originally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 Just now, Katamari said: Ddd mama chill the Sputnik review thread lashing her got merged into this one which where our posts were from originally kjdhkjaskhjdhkjashj bye I'm sorry, I re-read your posts and I was about to edit mine and ask you if there had been some other thread merged this is a mess. I'm so confused. I feel like everyone was attacking me for doing nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquiddiamonds Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 15 hours ago, crf13 said: Neither are edgy… Olivia Rodrigo is a very SAFE. Every single Taylor daughter is. Olivia's album had songs influenced by 2000s post-punk (bad idea right?) and 90s garage power pop bands like pavement (ballad of a homeschooled girl)…. That's way more edge than the pop Sabrina does for critics. Some people here that keep saying Avril and Paramore clearly don't like rock, because GUTS is not made up of 11 Good 4 U's. Its 90 rock influences are quite interesting for a mainstream pop album in 2024 There's a reason why most are praising Good Graces and that's because the Miami Bass influence is actually something different for a mainstream pop artist. It's been bubbling more in the underground and some R&B albums. Some genres are gonna be treated different than others, unfortunately. Having said that I don't think "edge" should be used against Sabrina, because her concept was country-pop and well polished retropop music. The reviewers are dropping Olivia just for clicks, because clearly people like Taylor, Kacey and even Remi Wolf and Clairo are closer to stuff Sabrina tried to do in Short'N'Sweet than whatever Olivia brought for GUTS. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 23 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said: Olivia's album had songs influenced by 2000s post-punk (bad idea right?) and 90s garage power pop bands like pavement (ballad of a homeschooled girl)…. That's way more edge than the pop Sabrina does for critics. Some people here that keep saying Avril and Paramore clearly don't like rock, because GUTS is not made up of 11 Good 4 U's. Its 90 rock influences are quite interesting for a mainstream pop album in 2024 There's a reason why most are praising Good Graces and that's because the Miami Bass influence is actually something different for a mainstream pop artist. It's been bubbling more in the underground and some R&B albums. Some genres are gonna be treated different than others, unfortunately. Having said that I don't think "edge" should be used against Sabrina, because her concept was country-pop and well polished retropop music. The reviewers are dropping Olivia just for clicks, because clearly people like Taylor, Kacey and even Remi Wolf and Clairo are closer to stuff Sabrina tried to do in Short'N'Sweet than whatever Olivia brought for GUTS. Like you really listen to bad idea, right?, ballad of homeschooled, all-american *****, obsessed... and still think she's serving some safe pop music? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEUTRON Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 On 8/23/2024 at 5:36 PM, TeemoR said: She's such an industry plant. Very Taylor Swift orchestrated. No talent. That album is bad btw. Shes a Disney star ...YOU just started paying attention to her but shes been around for YEARS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeroll Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 She's not someone that I could ever get into, but I try every time she releases. I like this album a lot more than I thought I would. Juno and Don't Smile were stunners for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Is it normal to get such few reviews? Only 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 7 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: Is it normal to get such few reviews? Only 5? It's time to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) NEW ROLLING STONE - 4/5 80 https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/sabrina-carpenter-short-n-sweet-review-1235087704/ Quote Sabrina Carpenter Seals Her Arrival As a Pop Superstar With 'Short n' Sweet' These songs are usually filthy, always funny, often mean, yet she roasts herself along with everyone else There's never been a pop-girl summer anything like 2024 — ever — and Sabrina Carpenter is one of the crucial reasons why. With "Espresso" and "Please Please Please," she can claim two prime Song of the Summer contenders. But she caps off her amazing ascendance with Short n' Sweet, her full-on coronation album, flaunting her knack for turning romantic roadkill into flippantly brilliant pop. Sabrina's give-a-fucks aren't just on vacation — they're in a coma. These songs are usually filthy, always funny, often mean, yet she roasts herself along with everyone else. As she admits, "I can make a shitshow look a whole lot like forever." The 25-year-old former Disney child star has spent years honing her skills — Short n' Sweet is her sixth album, building on her 2022 breakthrough Emails I Can't Send. But like the summer's other world-beating queens — Chappell Roan, Charli XCX, Tinashe — she's a crafty veteran seizing ingenue energy, just because she wants it. (She's one of the only singers who can boast she got shaded in a Number One hit, then went on to score one of her own.) She knew the world was watching this time, and Short n' Sweet seals her arrival as a pop superstar. "Espresso" and "Please Please Please" are two of the highlights, but they're not even the best tunes here. That honor goes to the future karaoke classic "Lie to Girls," with Carpenter lamenting over acoustic guitar, "You don't have to lie to girls/If they like you, they'll just lie to themselves." She mourns the romantic self-delusions of her mother, her friends, even "the girl outside the strip club getting her tarot cards read." (The funniest tarot burn since Joni Mitchell went to Bleecker Street on Hejira to watch eighteen bucks go up in smoke.) But as she sings, "We love to read the cold hard facts and swear they're incorrect/We love to mistake butterflies for cardiac arrest." Sabrina might crank out rhymed couplets like a twisted goddaughter of Dorothy Parker and Alexander Pope, yet her sensibility is her own. She's obsessed with "Bed Chem," and why it fails to solve the problems that go with men, from infidelity to bad grammar. (One dude doesn't know the difference between "there," "their," and "they're" — a red flag for sure.) She regrets the fact that she's stuck with straight guys, "since the good ones call their exes wasted/And since the Lord forgot my gay awakening." Short n' Sweet is impressively focused — 12 songs in 36 minutes, no features, no guests, no missteps. She co-wrote each with Amy Allen, who had her own summer hit in "Girl with a Problem." Her producers include John Ryan, Ian Kirkpatrick, and Justin Bunetta. Jack Antonoff did four of the highlights, including "Please Please Please" and "Lie to Girls." There's more banjo and acoustic guitar here than anyone would have guessed, mostly used for its percussive snap, as in the finger-picking rhythm hooks of "Slim Pickins" and "Sharpest Tool." The whole country/synth-pop vibe evokes Madonna's disco-cowgirl phase in her Music era — somehow Ms. Ciccone's "Don't Tell Me" has grown into a major pop touchstone for our moment. "Taste" is a delectably vicious opener, as she tells her ex's new girl, "You'll just have to taste me when he's kissing you." But the flip side is "Coincidence," where the ex is back in the game, as she sings, "Last week you didn't have any doubts/This week you're holding space for her tongue in your mouth." In the Eighties-style synth-fluffer "Bed Chem," she celebrates shameless lust to the point where she gets downright Shakespearean, in her ability to rhyme "Come right on me, I mean camaraderie" with "Where art thou? Why not uponeth me?" Sabrina rips so many boys into so many shreds here, but one of her funniest targets is the literary poseur in "Dumb & Poetic." She sneers, "Try to come off like you're soft and well-spoken/Jack off to lyrics by Leonard Cohen." The late Montreal poet-sage would have been totally honored by this tribute, just as he would enjoyed Boygenius' equally harsh "Leonard Cohen" last year. Cohen loved mocking male vanity (including his own) the way these songwriters do, and he'd appreciate how Sabrina turns her romantic woes into barbs like "Save all your breath for your floor meditation" and "I promise the mushrooms aren't changing your life." Also, they both have a flair for outlandish rhymes — somewhere, Cohen is probably kicking himself for not stretching out "Hallelujah" with "dream-come-true ya" and "Mountain Dew ya." "Don't Smile" is the only dud, with a comically surly message — "don't smile because it happened, baby, cry because it's over" — but too much droop in the execution. Carpenter just has more fun singing about hatred than bummed-out defeat. One of her idols, Kacey Musgraves, recently joined her onstage to duet on the Nancy Sinatra rage-queen classic "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'," and it felt like a passing of the torch, because that's the spirit Sabrina aims for here. On the vinyl edition of Short n' Sweet, Carpenter signs off with "Needless to Say," where she makes fun of her own "entertaining early-twenties judgment." But if it resulted in songs this great, nobody's knocking her judgment at all. Edited August 25 by halcyonday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 12 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: Is it normal to get such few reviews? Only 5? rest will come monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/2024/08/25/sabrina-carpenter-short-sweet-review/ Quote Sabrina Carpenter has the raunchiest, wittiest pop album of the year "Short n' Sweet" is a refreshingly gutter-minded dance party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 23 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: Is it normal to get such few reviews? Only 5? 16 minutes ago, halcyonday said: It's time to investigate. Reviews usually aren't posted on the weekend so it's normal. Most of them are published from Monday to Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 5 minutes ago, halcyonday said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/2024/08/25/sabrina-carpenter-short-sweet-review/ Does it have a score? I can't read the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgechxng Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 27 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: Is it normal to get such few reviews? Only 5? more will prob come on monday but i think critics are just not exicted abt her tbh. this will prob end with less than 15 reviews on metacritic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatsmydemi Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 (edited) Some other reviews that we should expect this week: Pitchfork AllMusic NME Others that usually review almost every release and could also drop this week: Consequence of Sound Slant PopMatters I think her huge success and Jack Antonoff will make critics review the album. I think it's gonna end around 15-18 reviews. Edited August 25 by thatsmydemi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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