ATRL Moderator Popular Post khalyan Posted August 18 ATRL Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 18 I’ll be voting for Kamala since that is who Palestinians have expressed their desire to be elected. If you choose to abstain, that is your right but it does show a pretty clear lack of concern for Palestine IMO. 5 14 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgos Groove Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 24 minutes ago, Revolution said: But ATRL me he was good and Kamala was bad for Palestine. Can you quote one (1) post where someone said Trump would be good on Palestine? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostalgic Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Can we choose the destination of our deportation? I'll pick the Bahamas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 28 minutes ago, suburbannature said: I would like to know what you think the VP does. Is she not currently running to be President, what do you think they do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 39 minutes ago, suburbannature said: But let's protest Kamala instead 29 minutes ago, suburbannature said: I would like to know what you think the VP does. 28 minutes ago, Revolution said: But ATRL me he was good and Kamala was bad for Palestine. 27 minutes ago, cartierdelrey said: It's so funny how people will withhold their vote for Kamala as "leverage". It'll be an unfortunate humbling moment when it results in giving this man the presidential seat. 26 minutes ago, on the line said: Ding ding ding, we have a winner. 23 minutes ago, Sugden said: And the dummies are worried abou kamala 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 38 minutes ago, DevilsRollTheDice said: But no interruptions at his rallies How many dead Palestinian children are you hoping to see? How many more videos of tiny skulls burst open will satisfy you to stop defending genocide via lying? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostBox Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 But let's protest Kamala 💀 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clee95 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 All I'm going say is good luck everybody if Trump wins since many are saying both Trump and Kamala are the same. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 24 minutes ago, khalyan said: I'll be voting for Kamala since that is who Palestinians have expressed their desire to be elected. Is this based off a survey of 4 people? Most Palestinians from actual polling support Hamas and the resistance to Israli occupation. I assume if some perceived support for Harris (based on a physical survey of 4 Palestinians] leads one to support Harris electorally as the lesser evil, I imagine then such should also lead any American concerned about doing what's right to support Hamas as the lesser evil in Palestinians' fight against genocide. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerveAksak Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Both Kamala and Trump are pro-israel. If I were an American of course I'd vote for Kamala but I'd also call her out on her bshit 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Not surprised by this behavior. The establishment of Israel was quite literally built on the back of unconditional US support and Western imperialism. Something both the Republican and Democratic parties actively support. Trump is a fascist and nazi and should definitely not be endorsed. His disgusting views on this matter were always evident. The irony of these brain rot MAGA's that want to put "America first" when Trump practically acts like he's running to become the president of Israel is definitely something. I hope this at least opens their eyes a little bit (wont ever happen). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted August 18 ATRL Moderator Share Posted August 18 43 minutes ago, Communion said: Is this based off a survey of 4 people? Most Palestinians from actual polling support Hamas and the resistance to Israli occupation. I assume if some perceived support for Harris (based on a physical survey of 4 Palestinians] leads one to support Harris electorally as the lesser evil, I imagine then such should also lead any American concerned about doing what's right to support Hamas as the lesser evil in Palestinians' fight against genocide. It's not hard to find Palestinians first hand requests to have Harris elected over Trump. https://www.reckon.news/justice/2024/08/do-palestinians-prefer-kamala-harris-or-donald-trump-gazans-weigh-in.html Who am I to refuse to vote for the candidate that Palestinians hope can bring some positive change? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodflowers. Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Candance Owens better watch out, Trump about to deport her MAGA ass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 41 minutes ago, Communion said: Is this based off a survey of 4 people? Most Palestinians from actual polling support Hamas and the resistance to Israli occupation. I assume if some perceived support for Harris (based on a physical survey of 4 Palestinians] leads one to support Harris electorally as the lesser evil, I imagine then such should also lead any American concerned about doing what's right to support Hamas as the lesser evil in Palestinians' fight against genocide. Hamas write-in victory incoming! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandleGuy Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, réveuse said: Nope, Kamala deserves to be protested. She is complicit in genocide and the mass murder of civilians. Cool, protest the only person standing in the way of literally rounding up, arresting, deporting (or worse) anyone that stands with Palestine. I swear some of you would take off your life jacket in the middle of the ocean because it's slightly too tight. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
réveuse Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CandleGuy said: Cool, protest the only person standing in the way of literally rounding up, arresting, deporting (or worse) anyone that stands with Palestine. I swear some of you would take off your life jacket in the middle of the ocean because it's slightly too tight. Sure, Mrs. Harris probably won't round up and arrest pro-Palestinian protestors, but she will bomb civilians, commit atrocities, and continue to uphold the status quo by supporting the apartheid regime of Israel. She and Mr. Biden are no different than Mr. Trump. Edited August 18 by réveuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosque Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) Anyone who thinks that any American president will support a Hamas government (which, no matter how much you protest, is the current government in Gaza) over Israel is just not very bright. Even if the USA stays out of the matter completely, not even the countries actually located in the region, including Egypt, Jordan and KSA would ever allow Hamas to remain in power. If you want politicians who support Hamas, really your only options are to go to Lebanon to vote for Hezbollah, or to Iran to "vote" for whoever president is pre approved by the Mullahs. Edited August 18 by Bosque 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberraga Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 This is so funny. His cultists like Sameera Kahn, Jackson Hinkle and Haz who kept swearing up and down he's pro-Palestine and anti-Zionist must be FUMING. They won't say anything though because they have to keep up the grift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberraga Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 50 minutes ago, Communion said: Is this based off a survey of 4 people? Most Palestinians from actual polling support Hamas and the resistance to Israli occupation. I assume if some perceived support for Harris (based on a physical survey of 4 Palestinians] leads one to support Harris electorally as the lesser evil, I imagine then such should also lead any American concerned about doing what's right to support Hamas as the lesser evil in Palestinians' fight against genocide. These mental gymnastics. The objective reality is that Harris will be better for Gaza than Trump. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 26 minutes ago, khalyan said: It's not hard to find Palestinians first hand requests to have Harris elected over Trump. https://www.reckon.news/justice/2024/08/do-palestinians-prefer-kamala-harris-or-donald-trump-gazans-weigh-in.html Ah, so this was referencing the informal surveying being referenced! Thank you for confirming! I hope we can all then agree to also listen to Palestinian voices in their support for Hamas' willingness to lead the Palestinian resistance and see the end of the Zionist entity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I don't see how this is worse than Joe. Isn't Biden's nickname Genocide Joe? Both parties are complicit to the genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted August 18 ATRL Moderator Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Communion said: Ah, so this was referencing the informal surveying being referenced! Thank you for confirming! I hope we can all then agree to also listen to Palestinian voices in their support for Hamas' willingness to lead the Palestinian resistance and see the end of the Zionist entity. Yes, we will both listen to Palestinian voices by voting for Kamala Harris and allowing them the autonomy in how they want to govern themselves. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberraga Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Ah, so this was referencing the informal surveying being referenced! Thank you for confirming! I hope we can all then agree to also listen to Palestinian voices in their support for Hamas' willingness to lead the Palestinian resistance and see the end of the Zionist entity. You realize Hamas and the Israeli government are two sides of the same coin, right? Netanyahu has admitted that propping up and colluding with Hamas in an effort to sow division and prevent peace is part of his strategy. Hamas and Netanyahu thrive off each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted August 18 ATRL Moderator Share Posted August 18 Also, why are the Palestinian voices in the source I provided disregarded? So much for "listening to Palestinian voices" 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, cyberraga said: These mental gymnastics. The objective reality is that Harris will be better for Gaza than Trump. I'm sure you believe that. The issue is the hypocrisy in denying Palestinians the right to believe Hamas is better for them than a Holocaust ushered in by Israel. This being important because the person you're electing will then try and deny objective reality and deny Palestinians their self-determination. Palestinians would be more justified in their support of Hamas than any American claiming to care about Palestine in their support of Harris in her current views. You're not being victimized. You're not facing the kind of political violence you have imagined you will under Trump than Palestinians currently face under Israel no matter Harris or Trump take power. The dismantling of American egoism and hegemony is required for the social contract of American liberals to claim "I just care about domestic policies!". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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