celeb news Business Insider: PR expert breaks down Katy Perry's "career crisis"

[BrokenMachine]

Was expecting for this to be a made up article, not an actual interview with someone with a real job in the industry 

[eleganceislearned]

A sit-down interview answering why she brought back Luke sounds terrible. 

 

it's best she just gets through the release as fast as possible then goes back to the drawing board (after a brief apology), but she seems stubborn, so that's all unlikely. 

[qurl]

it just ……… sounds desperate ..

 

like i actually do kinda like the song , but that's not exactly a barometer of quality music cuz i admittedly like complete dogsh!t music sometimes. i think the song is fine, but it reminds me of Dua releasing 'Illusion' ….. a song that's meant to inject life into a floundering era by sticking to the most by the books formula imaginable and still coming up short in terms of it being memorable or impactful really ….. like if we're keeping it complete tea , 'teary eyes' is a better House song than this tbh

[ALA]

Imagine if 10 years ago someone said Charli XCX would have the most defining pop era of the year and is used to put down Katy Perry

[Raichu]

40 minutes ago, Bends said:

I think her new music sounds like promotional jingles. Say that if these were 30-second excerpts from the chorus in the context of a Vagisil commercial or Booking.com. Are we sure we said it was cool and asked for more?

That's exactly what Woman's World was meant to be and what a lot of her commercial hits ultimately are. I think she thought going true to form with Luke and making something catchy enough would let her get away with working with him while racking up nostalgia points.

 

I also believe she thought watching other artists work with him and getting away with it (Kim, Nicki, Doja etc) would apply to her when it never has. I remember when Bon Appetit was announced to be featuring Migos she was getting dragged left and right for working with homophobes, meanwhile Camila and others had put out songs with Quavo and had zero repercussions. She's just never the exception - which is kind of funny!

[Princess Aurora]

I mean, he said what we've been saying for weeks on this forum, right? 

[Infernal Paradise]

16 minutes ago, Danny789 said:

Not related but this picture is a tad misogynistic. 

You're right, it is. The notion that a woman only "wins" when she becomes a mother disregarding all her career accomplishments is indeed deeply rooted in misogyny. Something her fans often love using as an argument against her other more ambitious, career-oriented female peers. Now try relaying this message to them and see if they're able to understand something so simple. Chances are, they won't. 

[The7thStranger]

And to think I got downvoted to Hell for saying Lifetimes was boring.

 

I stand by it. The song sucks.

[Biggie]

1 hour ago, Infernal Paradise said:

joking on what katykids have been using to justify her prosperity in the last ten years. couldn't put american idol 25M!! on there anymore.

 

i forget most of yall are new.

[CroNich]

Couldn't have explained my problems with Lifetimes better myself, it's a reductive mockery of the house music genre, which as the OP stated is experimental, layered and incredibly detailed in sound and themes.

 

Lifetimes just re-affirms Dr Luke and Katy Perry have no appreciation for house music (as with a lot of suss yts who pretend they do) and such can't use the 'crutch' of having repetitive lyrics as is often found in house music to mask their pure laziness and lack of talent and creativity. Like 8 writers for a song with about 10 lines of lyrics??? It's actually a sham.
 

Tbh I don't think either even have an appreciation for pop music based on what we've heard from 143. There's no POV being displayed, there's no fresh perspective, unique take, storytelling or lore-deepening. It's all just superficial, dated, generic garbage designed to pander to the yt gays in WeHo because she thinks that's going to make her relevant again. 
 

These last couple of months have told me everything I've needed to know about Katy (not that it's anything I didn't already know). I truly can't believe she has any actual fans

left at this point, truly are you not embarazzed. I TRULY hope this whole fiasco sends her and that suss rapist into early retirement and irrelevancy where they both belong. 

Edited August 10 by CroNich

[Bends]

9 minutes ago, CroNich said:

Tbh I don't think either even have an appreciation for pop music based on what we've heard from 143.

It feels like the album was recorded in 2 weeks in the shortest possible time. So far, everything sounds as anonymous and lazy as possible. I would do that if I got out of my contract with the label.

 

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"Katy knew exactly the album she wanted to make and put together the team to make it happen," a Capitol Records source confirms to Rolling Stone. "And that includes previous collaborators including Luke, Stargate, Max Martin, and Sarah Hudson, and some new heavy hitters such as Vaughn Oliver, Rocco Valdes, and Theron Thomas."

Really?

 

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[CroNich]

11 minutes ago, Bends said:

It feels like the album was recorded in 2 weeks in the shortest possible time. So far, everything sounds as anonymous and lazy as possible. I would do that if I got out of my contract with the label.

I mean Luke is known to literally steal beats and melodies from our artists too, he rarely comes up with an original concept himself. He just looks for the quickest, cheapest way to make a hit and maybe that worked for a while in the late 00's and early 10's but mainstream music has evolved and people except more. He's beyond past his already non existent use by date. This era only further cements that.

 

Even the few hits he has had in the last 5 years have been total knock-offs or not actually his original work. 

Edited August 10 by CroNich

[aotwbys]

These online newspapers will do anything for clicks, including writing crap during a recession

 

the Love Island official playlist is for HITS not sure why folks are trying to make it a bad thing. Lifetimes is THE solid house banger that put a cork in the hate. All they can say about it is that it's generic and unremarkable - but that criticism is generic and unremarkable itself.

 

Pop-infused EDM is obviously not the genre of most people here, so it's no surprise they'll jump on every little flaw. But pop-infused EDM always finds a place on the charts year after year. So it's not all 'dated.'

 

I wasn't a big fan of WW, in fact I was a day 0 hater. But to say all KP songs are bad while people praise some other shitty pop songs, it's straight-up pathetic (to me). It's clear... you either don't like her, don't like Luke, don't like the genre, or you just jump on the dislike bandwagon

 

She's committed to an EDM/pop album with Dr. Luke and can't switch up now without facing further financial loss. Her team is doing the best they can with the situation. You'd think Mr. PR expert from Business Insider would get it. lol.

[XtinaStripped]

When I'm Gone was more current than either single and even that flopped. I think she's done. She had a great run. It happens to them all eventually and that's ok. It doesn't erase her past success and impact.

[Iaintsorry]

2 hours ago, shimind said:

She should releasing more rock pop sounding songs like Roar and Dark horse instead of dance music.. Its just not her thing. She would have got this lesson early in her career had she released Walking in Air from Prism era. That song would have miserably flopped and she would have learnt that GP is not here for her dance songs

Roar and Dark horse pop rock?? 
 

okay it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about lol. Also walking on air charted at #34 on the hot 100 solely on digital sales when it was released as a promo single & and it's still a fan favorite to this day. 
 

Just say you hate Katy and don't click on her threads anymore pls

[Taylor fanboy]

2 hours ago, Danny789 said:

Not related but this picture is a tad misogynistic. 

It is, wasn't it a sarcastic response? 

[AshleyLovescats887]

Honestly I do not understand how Katy didn't foresee this, especially the Dr. L*ke collaboration.

She could have literally made these songs without him and the reception to them would already be so much better than rn

Not to mention the fact that the songs that she chose for singles are a bit too 2014 for the GP's liking right now

[Radical Pessimism]

she needs a reset button

[shimind]

17 minutes ago, Iaintsorry said:

Roar and Dark horse pop rock?? 
 

okay it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about lol. Also walking on air charted at #34 on the hot 100 solely on digital sales when it was released as a promo single & and it's still a fan favorite to this day. 
 

Just say you hate Katy and don't click on her threads anymore pls

hate is a strong word but i certainly can't love someone who works with an alleged R***** and then doubles down on it when gets dragged by the media.

[POPTART]

Ouch, they really went in. 

 

Unfortunately, most of this is true. Her (and her teams) bad decisions got her to this point.

 

Music wise, she's not offering anything new we haven't heard from her in the last decade. Especially with current sound of pop/EDM, these songs very much lack depth/innovation and creativity. 

 

Not going to mention anything about Luke as it's all been said and done, but it does make me question her character.

 

I'm wondering if she's putting this album out merely as a contractual obligation or if this is really what she wants to put out? 

[Vroom Vroom]

44 minutes ago, XtinaStripped said:

When I'm Gone was more current than either single and even that flopped. I think she's done. She had a great run. It happens to them all eventually and that's ok. It doesn't erase her past success and impact.

I was just thinking that! It came up on shuffle the other day when I was running on the treadmill. It's not the most unique song, but it has a lot more personality and punch than her most recent singles 

[Suspendedintheair]

4 hours ago, alfonso12 said:

Not them already saying "2 flop singles" when Lifetimes came out less than 24 hours ago.  

 

4 hours ago, Lord Gaga said:

We don't need to be Nostradamus to know what the future holds for lifetimes.

 

Yikes.

 

 

Edited August 10 by Suspendedintheair
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[RideOrDie]

2 hours ago, shimind said:

She should releasing more rock pop sounding songs like Roar and Dark horse instead of dance music.. Its just not her thing. She would have got this lesson early in her career had she released Walking in Air from Prism era. That song would have miserably flopped and she would have learnt that GP is not here for her dance songs

[Souvenir]

y'all doing too much and its annoying

[OmegaRidley]

4 hours ago, aesthetic bih said:

I thought she only needed to work with the right producers, reliable radio support and mass playlisting. She did one or more of the above and yet I realized she is flopping for a decade because simply no one is here for Katy pop anymore.

 

She never innovated, and stuck with the same style since Teenage Dream. People are obviously tired yet she's stubborn and keep on giving the same old ****. It was fun while lasted, y'all, but it's time to hang it up for a Katy comeback. It's never gonna happen.

And she succeeded with NRO and HIH, two solo songs that outperformed several of your fave's singles from her last era