Archetype Posted August 1 Posted August 1 So this is what Elon is prioritizing over letting his child see his dying grandmother...
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Sorry, the optics of all of this has become a disaster. The gender non-conforming (?) community needs a major facelift in the west. The culture has really done a MASSIVE 180 degree spin away from the days of 2010s social activism, especially online. 1
Hephaestus Posted August 1 Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, DockDock said: Elon's tweet has 1Millon+ likes damage is already done While this may be true, most of them are probably bots. Twitter is a right-wing cesspool these days anyway. 6
swissman Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, bushwick said: Sorry, the optics of all of this has become a disaster. The gender non-conforming (?) community needs a major facelift in the west. The culture has really done a MASSIVE 180 degree spin away from the days of 2010s social activism, especially online. Interesting you lay blame on the "gender non-conforming" community and not, oh you know, the literal transphobes trying to vilify and fear-monger everyone into hating trans people as much as them, including rounding this up to some perceived issue of trans people abusing women, resulting in whatever perceived "spin away from the days of 2010s social activism" you dislike. You realize much of this is a reaction to hate, right?! It's like asking why the victims of bullying get louder and speak up more about being bullied the more that they are bullied. Hm, I wonder why!? Edited August 1 by swissman 3 1
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, swissman said: Interesting you lay blame on the "gender non-conforming" community and not, oh you know, the literal transphobes trying to vilify and fear-monger everyone into hating trans people as much as them, including rounding this up to some perceived issue of trans people abusing women. I don't think this athlete abused the opponent, but I hear what you're saying about the conservative narrative. i think this athlete, who has a history of being ineligible in women's sporting contests ( ), was allowed to compete against an athlete due to an olympic's committee oversight. And the aftermath is people aren't happy - clearly. Edited August 1 by bushwick Mispell 1 1
ThehushSound Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Looks like most of Imane Khelif's opponents are able to go the full three rounds with her from what I can find and interpret on her stats. Perhaps Carini isn't as tough as she thought she was. But the stats definitely don't support the idea that Imane is inherently more dangerous than any other female competitor Carini would have gone up against.
Filpo Posted August 1 Posted August 1 I think Irish boxer Amy Broadhurst, who beat Khelif in the final of the 2022 IBA Women's World Boxing Championships said it all on Twitter. Quote Have a lot of people texting me over Imane Khelif. Personally I don't think she has done anything to 'cheat'. I thinks it's the way she was born & that's out of her control. The fact that she has been beating by 9 females before says it all. Quote She was born intersex and for all we know she could have been brought up thinking all she was, was a female. Nobody knows the full truth. 3
State of Grace. Posted August 1 Posted August 1 46 minutes ago, bushwick said: Why do you think Imane was disqualified from the women's world championships last year? I don't like when conservatives latch onto transphobic goon fuel, but this particular event has more nuance to it, considering a cis woman was brought to tears. 36 minutes ago, bushwick said: DAMN. So much for "believing women." You just straight up denied her tears and accused of playing victim. That's wild, you're down bad. The Guardian article actually included Angela Carini's quotes! 'I have never felt a punch like this'. I think it's bizarre the OP is also missing statements from the cis woman in the fight: "After the second punch, after years of experience, I felt a strong pain in the nose. I said enough, because I didn't want. I couldn't finish the fight after the punch to the nose. So it was better to put an end to it." Sounds brutal. Oh you wont be lasting for long here 4
Ohno Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Trans people being forced to be part of the conversation, when they have literally nothing to do with it. Having to witness this anti-trans brainrot all over social media is so infuriating. Leave our community alone ffs 9 4
swissman Posted August 1 Posted August 1 8 minutes ago, bushwick said: I don't think this athlete abused the opponent, but I hear what you're saying about the conservative narrative. i think this athlete, who has a history of being ineligible in women's sporting contests ( ), was allowed to compete against an athlete due to an olympic's committee oversight. And the aftermath is people aren't happy - clearly. JK Rowling's tweet surely was implying that this is some sort of abuse against women. She even made up some fake scenario about how the opponent knows she's "protected by misogyny" [allowing her to hit this woman], etc. That's what I'm referencing, not you personally. But this athlete also has a history of competing at the Olympics. So who is more correct? The olympics or other sporting events? Does it matter? She was allowed in. Those are the rules the Olympics decided upon. There are many rules some may take issue with but it's the Olympics' turf (no pun intended) and can decide what they want. If anyone doesn't like it, don't watch. Don't compete. It's literally a sport, a game. 1 1
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Oh you wont be lasting for long here Guessing individual thought is kryptonite around here? Edited August 1 by bushwick 1 1
Hephaestus Posted August 1 Posted August 1 8 minutes ago, bushwick said: i think this athlete, who has a history of being ineligible in women's sporting contests ( ), was allowed to compete against an athlete due to an olympic's committee oversight. And the aftermath is people aren't happy - clearly. Again with this disgusting rhetoric. It wasn't an oversight, gtfoh 1
ATRL Moderator supaspaz Posted August 1 ATRL Moderator Posted August 1 17 minutes ago, bushwick said: Sorry, the optics of all of this has become a disaster. The gender non-conforming (?) community needs a major facelift in the west. The culture has really done a MASSIVE 180 degree spin away from the days of 2010s social activism, especially online. Damn, you’re just as hateful as hell, huh? 5 2 1
Daddy Posted August 1 Posted August 1 These 2 poor women. One is the new face of helping transphobia (the Italian boxer) and the other is a huge victim of transphobia and in big danger of being killed after going back home. I blame J.K. Rowling and Elon and any other Nazi out there. 9
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 1 minute ago, supaspaz said: Damn, you're just as hateful as hell, huh? Don't get it twisted bruv. My ex was non binary. I like Ethel Cain. My problem is the athlete optics. 2
Tovitov Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) Poor lady, not her fault the opponent they gave her was a lightweight. Edited August 1 by Tovitov
Blade Runner Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) Why are we allowing transphobes like @bushwick here? cc. @feelslikeadream Edited August 1 by Blade Runner 1 1
Headlock Posted August 1 Posted August 1 1 hour ago, bushwick said: I have no idea what DSD is—I'm not a medical professional. Sounds like you should just shut up then You created the "divisive atmosphere" in this thread, such base level trolling. 2 1
bushwick Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) 1 minute ago, Blade Runner said: Why are we allowing transphobes like @bushwick here? not TRANSPHOBE. also, I thought she wasn't even a trans athlete? Edited August 1 by bushwick 1 1
Blade Runner Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Just now, bushwick said: not TRANSPHOBE. Reported you. Hopefully you'll be out.
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted August 1 ATRL Moderator Posted August 1 4 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Why are we allowing transphobes like @bushwick here? cc. @feelslikeadream Because stupid takes are not against the rules Of course, you should report anything directly transphobic and the mods will warn if the post does violate rules.
Headlock Posted August 1 Posted August 1 47 minutes ago, bushwick said: Classroom time. Let's break this down: I need both of you to explain to me how Imane is both the oppressed biological victim of a birth disorder affecting her gender... and also a cis woman? Nope, we're done with this dupe trolling, boo, tomato tomato I'm throwing tomatoes
Blade Runner Posted August 1 Posted August 1 Just now, feelslikeadream said: Because stupid takes are not against the rules Of course, you should report anything directly transphobic and the mods will warn if the post does violate rules. I did in other post. Thanks.
shoganai Posted August 1 Posted August 1 (edited) Rowling's support on the case has become an obsession. I'm about free speech unless it hurts someone. Her point of view could have been reasonable from a scientific perspective but not anymore, now she's just a hater and is sad Edited August 1 by shoganai
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