Witnessed ET Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Not crickets in here But if it was something negative, haters would be breaking their heels and doing headstands and having concussions while running in here ot: it's been said hundreds of times in the logical spaces: Go back to her poprock roots, make Greg wells an executive producer since he'll tap into that artist that she buried a long time ago, have Kacey or someone credible proofread her lyrics to make them free of cliches, and create an album without any commercial agenda. 4
Sweeftie13 Posted August 13 Posted August 13 - Take the producers of Future Nostalgia, Flowers or people like Max Martin or Mark Ronson - Start choosing a concept for the album, a well -defined sound that can have commercial but also critical value - Lock yourself in a studio for even 2/3 years and make an album of medium length between 12 and 16 tracks with many well written and well produced tracks and 3/4 songs that you are sure will be of great commercial success - Do a re -branding effort by performing at shows with just you and your acoustic guitar - Become totally apolitical for a short period and avoid participation in poor shows and stop promoting brands and advertising with your image - Let people identify you as an artist and not a musical product - Think of an aesthetic that would seem cool to Generation Z and relatable to older age groups - regain the relationship with the fandom, although there are few left they could always increase - choose your collaborations carefully 6 3
Titanbaddie Posted August 13 Posted August 13 9 minutes ago, Riverbank said: Leak the album so you have an excuse to rush release it and move on Might work actually 1
ThousandMiles Posted August 13 Posted August 13 I won't but what I will do is give the OP some positive LIFE advice… get a job!
HardBambi Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Don't be a Republican no more Kate no more no more no more no more Hit the road Kate Don't be coming back with Luke
selena_lavigne Posted August 13 Posted August 13 She should make some sexy music that sounds like it takes place in a hut in the middle of an island. Like the flintstones meets Tarzan. So you can talk about like playing guitar by the fire, making out on the beach, fighting the monkeys for coconuts, and looking up at the stars tracing the constellations. 3
Princess Aurora Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Make an all-female collab album and ban Dr.Luke from it Get all the other producers from Teenage Dream except that one or release an album a la Folklore/Evermore.
AvadaKedavra Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) Stop appealing to the gay clubs and the charts Just release music for the sake of artistry. Maybe this era flopping will be a good thing. It will be a goodbye for manufactured katy Sign with a different label too. Republic or one of the good ones. Edited August 13 by AvadaKedavra
Gelato Posted August 13 Posted August 13 songs like teary eyes, cry about it later, never really over, harleys in hawaii and tucked are really good. you already have a blueprint if you want to make another pop album after this 3 3
punisher Posted August 13 Posted August 13 34 minutes ago, Sweeftie13 said: - Think of an aesthetic that would seem cool to Generation Z and relatable to older age groups well she tried that when she brought trisha paytas in that music video maybe someone else can think of it 1 1 1
Truth Teller Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Be authentic Katy's peak happened in an era where all the hits were tailor made for mass airplay, the success basically came pre-packaged. Even Woman's Bomb, with the radio deal, YouTube views and a few fans downloading on iTunes would have been a cute top 20 debut in that era. But we're not there anymore. The most impactful pop era of the year is brat. Not mainstream, not radio friendly, not calculated by a camp of Swedish writers. Mass appeal and lowest common denominator strategies don't work anymore. It's all about niches. And "I love you for, I love you for life, lifetimes" is not a niche. It's boring, generic and doesn't mean anything to anyone. That wasn't a problem in 2011 but I don't think she's fully realized how much of a problem it is now. And the more she chases hits the old-fashioned way with algorithmic pop music, the further down the hill she will slide. Katy just tries too damn hard. To be trendy, to be funny, to be catchy, to be cool. And it shows. I'm not even sure she likes some of her songs. She probably just releases them because she thinks "the kids will like them" and she's "giving them everything they want" and "wig". I would bet actual money that she barely likes When I'm Gone, 365 and Harleys, and I would not be surprised if she was peer pressured into the entire "urban" section of 143. Katy doesn't listen to Doechii or 21 Savage and she doesn't say "I'm that b*tch" or "drippy kitty daddy take me for a ride". It's forced and people smell that from a mile away. Just make the corny music you actually like and maybe some people will like it and you will form a genuine connection. 6 3
SimpleKindofLife Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Lean back into the OOTB sound, songs like Thinking of You, Hot n Cold, and I Think I'm Ready specifically. 5
POPTART Posted August 13 Posted August 13 I've asked my friend ChatGPT Spoiler If I were advising Katy Perry on her 2024 album campaign, my key piece of advice would be to focus on an authentic, introspective rebranding that blends her pop sensibilities with more mature, nuanced storytelling. Here's a breakdown of what she could do: 1. Studio Collaborations: Producer: Jack Antonoff or FINNEAS - Both have a knack for helping artists find a mature, authentic sound without losing their pop appeal. They would help Katy craft songs that are introspective and lyrically rich, which could resonate with both her longtime fans and a newer audience. Writers: Julia Michaels - Her songwriting is deeply personal and could add an emotional depth that might elevate Katy's music beyond its typical upbeat pop anthems. Ideal Feature: Dua Lipa or Miley Cyrus - Both have successfully navigated rebranding efforts while maintaining their pop credentials. A collaboration with either could produce a cross-generational anthem that would be a commercial and critical success. 2. Live Performances: Venue: Tiny Desk Concert (NPR) - An intimate, stripped-down performance would showcase her vocal abilities and give her a chance to connect with fans on a personal level. It's a great way to emphasize the raw emotion and storytelling in her new music. Festival Circuit: Glastonbury Festival or Coachella - These stages are perfect for reaching a broader, more diverse audience. A killer performance here would generate significant buzz and establish her as a major player in the 2024 music scene. 3. Marketing Strategy: Authenticity and Transparency: Share the journey behind the album creation, including struggles and personal stories that influenced the music. Fans are drawn to vulnerability and honesty. Social Media Teasers: Release short clips of acoustic versions of the new songs to build anticipation, focusing on the storytelling aspect. 4. What Needs to be Scrapped: Outdated Pop Formulas: If there are tracks on the album that feel like recycled pop from her previous eras, they should be reconsidered. The focus should be on growth and evolution, rather than repeating past successes. Overly Flashy Aesthetics: Katy is known for her colorful and whimsical visuals, but toning this down to something more sophisticated could help rebrand her as a more mature artist. 5. Visuals and Imagery: Album Art & Music Videos: Opt for a more minimalist, artistic approach rather than the over-the-top, hyper-pop visuals of the past. Think along the lines of Lana Del Rey's or Taylor Swift's recent visuals, which are more about mood and atmosphere than spectacle. By refocusing on authentic, introspective music, collaborating with the right people, and strategically planning her performances, Katy Perry can reinvigorate her career and create an album campaign that resonates in 2024. 7
Rihinvention Posted August 13 Posted August 13 Lean into maturity. Don't run away from it. Look what Madonna did with 'Ray Of Light'. How motherhood has changed your perspective of life can be such a good source of creativity. Clinging to sexiness and youth just seems desperate. 1 2
Reginald Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) Scrap ALL promo plans for the Luke material, reboot the era with a release day Deluxe Edition featuring 10 tracks by other producers. Pretend as if WW and Lifetimes never happened, and use the deluxe tracks as singles. Edited August 13 by Reginald
Mordecai Posted August 13 Posted August 13 I genuinely think she should reach into the vault and release a Christmas album; rerelease Cozy Little Christmas and give it the push it should've been given when it was released. I've always thought Christmas music was perfectly suited to her brand and that she is one of the few artists who could pull it off without it seeming like a cash grab. Would be a good rebrand and image cleanup a few months after 143 Then get back into the studio and have a new album ready to go this time next year that's a different sound and direction from what we've seen before. Even if it's only a small evolution in the vein of Witness, just some growth and maturation of her sound 1 1
Titanbaddie Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, ThousandMiles said: I won't but what I will do is give the OP some positive LIFE advice… get a job! You have 5x the amount of posts i have on this exact forum, you don't get to comment on jobless behavior.
Titanbaddie Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Truth Teller said: Be authentic Katy's peak happened in an era where all the hits were tailor made for mass airplay, the success basically came pre-packaged. Even Woman's Bomb, with the radio deal, YouTube views and a few fans downloading on iTunes would have been a cute top 20 debut in that era. But we're not there anymore. The most impactful pop era of the year is brat. Not mainstream, not radio friendly, not calculated by a camp of Swedish writers. Mass appeal and lowest common denominator strategies don't work anymore. It's all about niches. And "I love you for, I love you for life, lifetimes" is not a niche. It's boring, generic and doesn't mean anything to anyone. That wasn't a problem in 2011 but I don't think she's fully realized how much of a problem it is now. And the more she chases hits the old-fashioned way with algorithmic pop music, the further down the hill she will slide. Katy just tries too damn hard. To be trendy, to be funny, to be catchy, to be cool. And it shows. I'm not even sure she likes some of her songs. She probably just releases them because she thinks "the kids will like them" and she's "giving them everything they want" and "wig". I would bet actual money that she barely likes When I'm Gone, 365 and Harleys, and I would not be surprised if she was peer pressured towards the entire "urban" section of 143. Katy doesn't listen to Doechii or 21 Savage and she doesn't say "I'm that b*tch" or "drippy kitty daddy take me for a ride". It's forced and people smell that from a mile away. Just make the corny music you actually like and maybe some people will like it and you will form a genuine connection. This might be it. 1
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