charts discussion Nicki Minaj's "Pink Friday 2" leaves the Billboard 200 after 31 weeks.

[DawnAnti]

Nicki Minaj's "Pink Friday 2" officially departs from the Billboard 200 this week.

It spent 31 weeks on the chart.thoughts? 

[punisher]

how did it last 25 weeks less than queen lmao

[truthteller]

[Dialamba]

And they were so brave lol 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

didnt it rise over 30 spots last weeks? 

 

7 minutes ago, punisher said:

how did it last 25 weeks less than queen lmao

if the album dropped closer to SFG's release it would've definitely done more woc than it did now.

 

yes she's on tour, but the lack of single releases and promo made the album lack in longevity.

[pride4jc1222]

1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

didnt it rise over 30 spots last weeks? 

 

if the album dropped closer to SFG's release it would've definitely done more woc than it did now.

 

yes she's on tour, but the lack of single releases and promo made the album lack in longevity.

Yeah, if she dropped it one year earlier, songs like FTCU and Pink Friday Girls would have been a lot bigger. Not to mention, it would have not went up against Megan and the Big Foot fiasco, and those songs would have had a radio run. Oh, what could have been.

[Miracle Whip]

[Breathe On Moi]

14 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said:

Yeah, if she dropped it one year earlier, songs like FTCU and Pink Friday Girls would have been a lot bigger. Not to mention, it would have not went up against Megan and the Big Foot fiasco, and those songs would have had a radio run. Oh, what could have been.

good thing talent will continue to prevail and that pen won't stop and more projects will come to keep ugly smelly hoes seething like this thread 

[laqqinq]

Crazy to think it spent lesser weeks than Queen (and Queen spent nearly 60 weeks on the chart) when the latter was deemed her "flop" era/album.

 

She took pretty long to finish the album tbh (like till the last minute). But like another user said here, songs like FTCU and Pink Friday Girls, and overall the whole album, should've been released like fall 2022, sometime after SFG's release. But idk if she had enough material to put out an album or she wasn't satisfied/hadn't completed the kind of album she wanted.

 

However, if they were written recently, could've received better promo, radio, etc. FTCU was very close to entering the top 10 at a point and Everybody was a climber that peaked in the top 25 or so. Those and PFG would've given legs to the era. There was Barb fanpages saying that PFG was the next single and there was also the announcement of a radio impact date but don't know what happened to it.

 

She could've grabbed more hits, had a more successful era.

 

It deserved better.

Edited July 23 by laqqinq

[iHype.]

I mean she is lowkey a fanbase dependent artist in the veteran stage at this point. 

 

All this album really proved is she should be releasing albums every 1-2 years.  5 years just for a beyond mid quality album, a terrible rollout, 60% was rushed in the final 2 months anyways, and all of it was forgettable shortly after. She has no business taking as long to produce the output she makes. 
 

She has a big enough fanbase to always secure a good sized opening week and her 30-song tracklists will always end up with 1-2 decent hits. Nothing to lose or any quality loss suffered with releasing more often. All she cares about is padding stats anyways so her discography should be like 2x its actual size this late in her career.

[Miley Cyrus]

Still #1 on the Gag City charts I'm sure

 

[iHype.]

Also to be fair she is a 40+ year old female and the only other one doing these numbers is Beyonce? I don't even think Renaissance/Cowboy did much more in total units even if they had decently bigger debuts. This is basically kinda the ceiling for the late career female (unfortunately). 

 

The era also wasn't really a comeback from Queen cause even that era in itself wasn't that big of a flop. Her success has been pretty consistent even during her lows. It's just she didn't have another female rapper outdoing her largely this time around. 

[PMM]

1 hour ago, punisher said:

how did it last 25 weeks less than queen lmao

when you put it like that......

[Rigalo]

Oh wow. I think there's a chance this could come back and be the biggest female rap album of all time like she claimed. She only needs, what, 188 more weeks to surpass Cardi?

Edited July 23 by Rigalo

[Blue Monday]

What's crazy is that this album was actually doing pretty well, in spite of the truly horrendous rollout and middling quality. She completely nuked the momentum by getting into it with Meg and abandoned the album; if there was a way to abandon the tour I'm sure she would considering how she's been phoning it in and showing up late to shows 

[JO1s]

But @FOCK claimed gag city was an organic viral cultural moment. What happened?

[Invincibles]

The lack of music videos and promo completely killed this era. Smh.

 

"FTCU" was the first #1 of 2024 on the Apple Music USA chart. "Everybody" went Top 10 on Overall Radio. Both of these songs could've went Top 10 on the Hot 100 with a video and a late night talk show performance.

 

Long time fan of Nicki, but I'm so disappointed. The album should be at around 1.5M by now including the pre-release units, and will eventually cross 2M at some point so it was a success. But the era should've been so much better.

[Invincibles]

Nicki should re-release the album with that "Roman In Malibu" track she was talking about. A new single, with a video and promo will take the album to at least 52 weeks on the chart.

[espeon]

She dropped the album just to tour. No MVs, lack of singles. I hope she re-releases it with 2-3 new songs that get the proper single treatment, MVs and promo

[sciencemagic]

2 hours ago, Breathe On Moi said:

good thing talent will continue to prevail and that pen won't stop and more projects will come to keep ugly smelly hoes seething like this thread 

All that talent and yet no acclaimed album and/or no cohesive body of work, why?

[D.Va]

2 hours ago, laqqinq said:

Crazy to think it spent lesser weeks than Queen (and Queen spent nearly 60 weeks on the chart) when the latter was deemed her "flop" era/album.

 

She took pretty long to finish the album tbh (like till the last minute). But like another user said here, songs like FTCU and Pink Friday Girls, and overall the whole album, should've been released like fall 2022, sometime after SFG's release. But idk if she had enough material to put out an album or she wasn't satisfied/hadn't completed the kind of album she wanted.

 

However, if they were written recently, could've received better promo, radio, etc. FTCU was very close to entering the top 10 at a point and Everybody was a climber that peaked in the top 25 or so. Those and PFG would've given legs to the era. There was Barb fanpages saying that PFG was the next single and there was also the announcement of a radio impact date but don't know what happened to it.

 

She could've grabbed more hits, had a more successful era.

 

It deserved better.

And I would have had Cowgirl feat. Doja Cat in fall 2022. 

She's a mess.

[R.E.M.]

forever wishing she hadn't tainted the legacy of the original Pink Friday with this half-baked, uninspired, rushed, messy 'sequel'

[slw84]

3 hours ago, laqqinq said:

Crazy to think it spent lesser weeks than Queen (and Queen spent nearly 60 weeks on the chart) when the latter was deemed her "flop" era/album.

 

She took pretty long to finish the album tbh (like till the last minute). But like another user said here, songs like FTCU and Pink Friday Girls, and overall the whole album, should've been released like fall 2022, sometime after SFG's release. But idk if she had enough material to put out an album or she wasn't satisfied/hadn't completed the kind of album she wanted.

 

However, if they were written recently, could've received better promo, radio, etc. FTCU was very close to entering the top 10 at a point and Everybody was a climber that peaked in the top 25 or so. Those and PFG would've given legs to the era. There was Barb fanpages saying that PFG was the next single and there was also the announcement of a radio impact date but don't know what happened to it.

 

She could've grabbed more hits, had a more successful era.

 

It deserved better.

Well, Queen had weeks that included that Tekashi 6 9 hit as well so there was a benefit there.

 

Not enough material when she had 5 years in between releases????

 

She wasn't satisfied with the album she wanted?

 

Anyways, in the streaming era if you are not a huge smash hit maker consistently padding your units if album tracks are not well streamed then you need to have a body of work that consumers/people want. to hear.

 

A fanbase will support and get easily excited the first month or two but even the barbz gave up and this was when she had radio hits (not being streamed but we won't scream payola) earlier this year...if the content is not good then not even stans are going to keep streaming it.

 

I think her album will return even if it's in the lower 100s and just ping pong in and out of the BB200 depending on new releases.

 

She can fix this by giving her fans and hip hop fans quality content but it's up to her to deliver it.

[slw84]

1 hour ago, sciencemagic said:

All that talent and yet no acclaimed album and/or no cohesive body of work, why?

Because talent and artistry are not always equated. Many people with marginal talent in their main skill have bodies of work because their artistry overcompensated (i.e.e Madonna, Janet, Taylor Swift...even Kanye who lyrically is not a top 10 of all time but artistically he creates masterpieces).

 

Resting on talent is what gets you no classic bodies of work just showing off skill to mid songs.

3 hours ago, iHype. said:

I mean she is lowkey a fanbase dependent artist in the veteran stage at this point. 

 

All this album really proved is she should be releasing albums every 1-2 years.  5 years just for a beyond mid quality album, a terrible rollout, 60% was rushed in the final 2 months anyways, and all of it was forgettable shortly after. She has no business taking as long to produce the output she makes. 
 

She has a big enough fanbase to always secure a good sized opening week and her 30-song tracklists will always end up with 1-2 decent hits. Nothing to lose or any quality loss suffered with releasing more often. All she cares about is padding stats anyways so her discography should be like 2x its actual size this late in her career.

But that would be different if her new album was quality content based. You are correct, if you are going to take 5 years then you can't do a disservice to your stans and music lovers alike by serving mid.

 

Yes, quality over quantity makes a difference. She would need to find the balance of both. She had a bunch of tracks on her last album and as you put it 1-2 decent hits is not exactly a winning formula.

 

I think she's dependent on her stans but also dependent on gimmicks which is the problem because it works early in a career but it loses its luster later on. Most people that start out that way eventually evolve into someone taking more seriously and art focused...but last year she put out Barbie girl or whatever and the year before that she put out Super Freaky Girl...no interest in artistry, growth, quality but more interest in Mc Donald nugget hits that work for the moment. It was cute during Starships and those easily quotable features of early 2010s. It's like...mid 2020s now.

 

[Miracle]

This is crazy bad for 22 songs...

 

Correction: +25

Edited July 23 by Miracle