Sabrina Carpenter Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 didn't CS hit number one just October last year? why are you acting like it became a hit 5 years ago 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrorblade Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Broken Heart is coming to revive ha career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 8 hours ago, dirrtydiana said: No, her last actual smash hit was bad blood Boo tomato tomato I'm throwing tomatoes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondeskinnyrich Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 22 hours ago, PoisonedIvy said: Sometimes I feel like yall forget that albums are more important than singles. There's way too much significance assigned to a 3 minute teaser compared to the full body of work from which it originates. Katy, for example, probably has a larger quantity of "bigger" hits than Taylor, but Taylor is about 10x bigger an artist than Katy is. Because Taylor's main focus has always been albums and tours. The things that actually make a legendary artist legendary. And how exactly does that answer the question about Taylor being/not being a real hit-maker? Define a hit-maker. Under my definition, you just gave an example of why Katy is a hit-maker and Taylor is not one. Also, who said albums are more important than singles, besides you of course? Because I believe it's subjective matter and you can't really say "hey can you please not forget that you're not allowed to care more about separate songs than the albums as a whole thank you???" 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, blondeskinnyrich said: And how exactly does that answer the question about Taylor being/not being a real hit-maker? Define a hit-maker. Under my definition, you just gave an example of why Katy is a hit-maker and Taylor is not one. Also, who said albums are more important than singles, besides you of course? Because I believe it's subjective matter and you can't really say "hey can you please not forget that you're not allowed to care more about separate songs than the albums as a whole thank you???" Congrats on Katy being more of a hit maker than Taylor, we all see how that worked out for their career trajectories 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbsparce Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Isn't Fortnight literally the follow up to Cruel Summer? So she hasn't had a hit in a year-ish aka 1 single ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popboi. Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 (edited) 46 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: Isn't Fortnight literally the follow up to Cruel Summer? So she hasn't had a hit in a year-ish aka 1 single ago? Is It Over Now? was, but Cruel Summer completely overshadowed it. Both peaked at the exact same time. Edited July 24 by Popboi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltie Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 If being a "hit maker" means getting sales and streams and breaking records, then no. Taylor's been doing fine post-Cruel Summer. However, and this is just my opinion, I do think "hits" should have at least some sort of relevance outside of the fanbase. That's why singles like Is It Over Now? and Fortnight don't scream hit songs to me. Cruel Summer and Anti-Hero are the recent hits that spring to mind. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Yall will say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffy Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Fortnight is going to have a resurgence in 4 years and will receive its flowers like Cruel Summer did. Yall need to wake up Fortnight is the real caffeine, not Espresso. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondeskinnyrich Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 11 hours ago, PoisonedIvy said: Congrats on Katy being more of a hit maker than Taylor, we all see how that worked out for their career trajectories you're missing the point, but go off I guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_bev Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I get that not everyone is a 'stan' but could one of you perhaps at least TRY to put a non-bias approach forward, just once? PSA: I'm a fan, since 2010. Giving you the benefit of the doubt and imagining that you were a little more real in your post - I'd say yes and no. Cruel Summer as if it released in 2019, absolutely. Cardigan has become huge and a staple hit, and Anti-Hero was just known everywhere. It was simple, but fresh and relatable. Undeniable. Now the singles between - I.e., Lavender Haze, Bejewelled, Fortnite (am I missing any?), there's more of an argument for fan driven. Bejewelled was pushed pretty fast and I'd say it's a moderate hit bolstered by fan support. Same for LH. My non-Swift friends don't really know them. Nor work colleagues. Post Cruel Summer becoming a single, Fortnite has good numbers but it just also doesn't feel like a hit to me. I love it now, but didn't at first. And basically everyone I'm around in the UK hasn't really heard it. I'd say this is a clear case of fan driven numbers with moderate GP support. I'd say it becomes quite difficult to separate all the numbers between the fandom and GP - the albums sell very well. And the streaming numbers are great for most tracks. I don't think it's possible to know exactly how much the fandom and the GP are putting into this. But to answer your question, yes, she has absolutely had widespread hits since CS and will probably continue to do so, with singles that didn't gain as much traction providing fan enjoyment. Side note but Is It Over Now? Was pretty huge in the UK too for a while. Thanks! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safe&Sound Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 On 7/23/2024 at 1:48 PM, dirrtydiana said: No, her last actual smash hit was bad blood reading your replies and the artists listed on your footer made me thinking if I travelled back to 7 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longjohn9898 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Taylor isn't an organic hit maker. Her hits aren't hits in the way other artists' are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildHeart Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 7/23/2024 at 9:51 PM, blondeskinnyrich said: Define a hit-maker. #10 Hot 100 Artist of All Time 7 hours ago, longjohn9898 said: Taylor isn't an organic hit maker. Her hits aren't hits in the way other artists' are. Name them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackoutbaby Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) Didn't she like…just release that song as a single last year? Edited July 26 by blackoutbaby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonginBey Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I love a chance to throw shade at her, but you're going to have to give us better material, OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sazare Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Was Cruel Summer really a hit though? Felt more like a TikTok meme that ended up getting begrudging radio support. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHoran Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 This is false. Taylor's still a big hitmaker idk what you're talking about lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/23/2024 at 3:51 PM, blondeskinnyrich said: And how exactly does that answer the question about Taylor being/not being a real hit-maker? Define a hit-maker. Under my definition, you just gave an example of why Katy is a hit-maker and Taylor is not one. Also, who said albums are more important than singles, besides you of course? Because I believe it's subjective matter and you can't really say "hey can you please not forget that you're not allowed to care more about separate songs than the albums as a whole thank you???" One of the dumbest things I've read here in a while. And I'm talking about the comment, not about you as a person. But damn.... What a stupid comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/26/2024 at 5:51 PM, Sazare said: Was Cruel Summer really a hit though? Felt more like a TikTok meme that ended up getting begrudging radio support. Cruel Summer has never gone viral on TikTok. And yes, it's already 9x Platinum in the US alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/24/2024 at 10:19 PM, longjohn9898 said: Taylor isn't an organic hit maker. Her hits aren't hits in the way other artists' are. There are very few songs released thos decade bigger than Cruel Summer, the 9x Platinum single. Even fewer female songs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 That @longjohn9898 member downvoting every comment, you good sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Oxygen Posted July 29 ATRL Moderator Share Posted July 29 The Anti Hero erasure in here is wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rv1709 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Cruel summer wasn't too long ago though? Wasn't it last year? Also, does this woman even need a #1 anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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