base talk Why does Taylor's music have replay value but Gaga's doesn't?

[Kukai]

This isn't shade towards either artists (I'm a fan of both!). But it just struck me while I was re-listening to Taylor's 'Mastermind' that her music has amazing replay value. Whereas, even with Gaga's newer material, like songs from Chromatica, I don't feel as enticed to go back and listen to her songs again. They feel overproduced, loud/noisy and a bit jarring e.g. Enigma is very bombastic. 

 

Is Taylor's formula of having more subtle production and softer vocals the reason her music catalogue has aged like wine? I do feel like artists who follow this formula will probably have albums that will age better than those who rely on pop productions that are overwhelming, imo.

 

 

[technoprayer]

2 minutes ago, Kukai said:

while I was re-listening to Taylor's 'Mastermind'

[Smarticle]

3 minutes ago, Kukai said:

This isn't shade towards either artists (I'm a fan of both!)

[frankgutz]

Idk i replay Gaga a lot so i guess its a "you" thing

[Sheep]

I think the answer to this also lies in the answer as to why people like being loud and wrong on the internet

[TouchinFree]

[LittleCupid]

 

I replay this quite often

 

[Kukai]

5 minutes ago, frankgutz said:

Idk i replay Gaga a lot so i guess its a "you" thing

If we look at recurrent streams for both Midnights and Chromatica, I don't think it's just a 'me' thing sweetie. On ASIB, Gaga did have softer productions and softer vocals and that album has one of her best recurrent streams so clearly there is a pattern. I can already tell Shallow and Always Remember Us This Way will age like fine wine while Chromatica will age like spoilt curry like Artpop. 

Edited July 22 by Kukai

[Bimbo]

These threads won't make Katy chart any higher or deliver listenable music

[frankgutz]

7 minutes ago, Kukai said:

If we look at recurrent streams for both Midnight and Chromatica, I don't think it's just a 'me' thing sweetie. On ASIB, Gaga did have softer productions and softer vocals and that album has one of her best recurrent streams so clearly there is a pattern. I can already tell Shallow and Always Remember Us This Way will age like fine wine while Chromatica will age like smelly curry like Artpop. 

Taylor has way more fans, what she does is amazing, what i said is "for you" doesn't have 'replay' value but "for me" it does, so its a you problem, its not that hard to understand unless u had an insect IQ

 

And yes it would be weird if Gaga's Chromatica had more streams than Midnight when MD sold more than Chromatica, meaning more people are fans of Taylor which means more people streaming it.
 

If Gaga had 0 gains on stream would mean nobody is listening = no replay value 💜  its a no brainer

Edited July 22 by frankgutz
Fix typos

[awong918]

Taylor's new music is better than Gaga's new music. That's all there really is to it.

 

But she will never top Bad Romance and Poker Face. 

[nostalgic]

[Kukai]

2 minutes ago, Bimbo said:

These threads won't make Katy chart any higher or deliver listenable music

We Stan the arts and not the charts babe  Now keep it on topic. I know you love derailing threads! 
 

1 minute ago, frankgutz said:

Taylor has way more fans, what seh does is amazing, what i said is "for you" doesnt have 'replay' value but for me it does, its not that hard to understand.

 

And yes it would be weird if Gaga's Chromatica had more streams than Midnight, even MD sold more than Chromatica, meaning more people are fans of Taylor which means more people streaming it. If Gaga had 0 gains on stream would mean  obody is listening = no replay value 💜  its a no brainer

My point is ASIB is out streaming Chromatica. Why? It's because music that has softer production with softer delivery end up ageing better, hence why they have better replay value. Be honest, will you be listening to Free Woman or Fun Tonight in 3 years time? 

[Popboi.]

Cause only one of them released... Joanne

 

[frankgutz]

8 minutes ago, Kukai said:

We Stan the arts and not the charts babe  Now keep it on topic. I know you love derailing threads! 
 

My point is ASIB is out streaming Chromatica. Why? It's because music that has softer production with softer delivery end up ageing better, hence why they have better replay value. Be honest, will you be listening to Free Woman or Fun Tonight in 3 years time? 

Because ASIB appeals to a broader public, it comes from a Soundtrack and has songs people that might not be a Gaga fan but loved the songs from the film, meaning the song is popular with the gp while Chromatica is specific to Gaga fans and people who like dance/electronic music

 

its not about "replay" value but more about the genre of the songs, "metal" music is very niche, metal doesnt have the same straming numbers pop music does but it does have the same "replay" value for the small crowd it has the genre

 

i think i got it wrong lol, if u wanted to shade/drag it you should fix your ideas first cuz it just doesnt make sense

Edited July 22 by frankgutz

[Kukai]

2 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

Cause only one of them released... Joanne

 

Million reasons actually has great replay value and recurrent streams. It's what I'm talking about in the thread. Perfect Illusion ruined everything though sadly 

[frankgutz]

2 minutes ago, Kukai said:

Million reasons actually has great replay value and recurrent streams. It's what I'm talking about in the thread. Perfect Illusion ruined everything though sadly 

So it is indeed a "you" problem, the genre doesn't appeal to "you" while MR does.  It's not that hard, so you're welcome, u just discover you like ballads and pop and hate electronic, so for "you" 'calm, ballad, pop" song have more "replay" value that the song with an electronic sounds. Electro/Dance fans might feel the opposite way 💜

[TouchinFree]

7 minutes ago, nostalgic said:

Imagine... just IMAGINE thinking, 

 

This: 

 

 

Is more listenable/ has better replay value than this: 

 

 

 

I've definitely lived to see it all 

 

 

[Colmillo]

It's actually the exact opposite for me, I can't bring myself to listen to a Taylor song more than once.

[ericcartman]

I find GaGa's big hit singles have pretty good replay value. She has some monster classics (bad romance, pokerface, shallow) but I don't find myself going back to any of her albums. Just those big classic hits.

 

Whereas Taylor I can go back to many of her albums again and again. Not just for the singles, but the album tracks. 

[Azealia Banks]

Who said that?!

[Kukai]

12 minutes ago, frankgutz said:

So it is indeed a "you" problem, the genre doesn't appeal to "you" while MR does.  It's not that hard, so you're welcome, u just discover you like ballads and pop and hate electronic, so for "you" 'calm, ballad, pop" song have more "replay" value that the song with an electronic sounds. Electro/Dance fans might feel the opposite way 💜

This isn't true at all. I have Brat on repeat but Brat does that whole sound in a more polished and timeless way. It's an album with great replay value. 

[TedLasso]

12 minutes ago, Kukai said:

Million reasons actually has great replay value and recurrent streams. It's what I'm talking about in the thread. Perfect Illusion ruined everything though sadly 

And yet Rain On Me has more streams, despite being released over three years later  

 

Saying songs that are "loud" or "overproduced" have no replay value isn't really a factual statement, just say you don't like that kind of music instead of putting some GP spin on it. Bloody Mary got resurrected and skyrocketed to her 12th most streamed song on Spotify despite its headache inducing bass (not complaining, it's a great song). Gaga has 35 songs with over 100M steams and they're all very different from one another, it's not like ballads all fill the top spots. 

[Joyride]

can't tell if this is satire or mental illness

[tost1]