#Beautiful Posted July 12 Posted July 12 5 hours ago, ericcartman said: They were talking about her on the radio and not a single mention of the Dr Luke angle. So maybe the GP doesn't really know no one outside of a portion of stan twitter gives a ****. dr luke songs have been topping the charts and getting grammies for years 2
KillingYourCareer Posted July 12 Posted July 12 With how the streaming era works, the album could contain a track that people randomly pick up and smash. Woman's World is a VERY unfortunate choice for a lead single, but nothing's over for certain, even though it's not that easy to smash from an album track. 1
KillingYourCareer Posted July 12 Posted July 12 6 hours ago, ericcartman said: They were talking about her on the radio and not a single mention of the Dr Luke angle. So maybe the GP doesn't really know And even if Dr. Luke was mentioned, the GP would have no idea on who that is 1
Robyn. Posted July 12 Posted July 12 I'm sorry but are you guys hearing the same song? Because the hate is forced it seems. This is classic Katy Perry, a dance pop song with an explosive chorus and you guys complaining like this isn't her brand. Perhaps this won't smash in this current music climate, however it's not disconnected from her usual pop smashes. 4 1
Robyn. Posted July 12 Posted July 12 30 minutes ago, #Beautiful said: no one outside of a portion of stan twitter gives a ****. dr luke songs have been topping the charts and getting grammies for years This is true. And the whole Doja Cat situation makes people look hypocritical. Because even if Doja was forced by a contract to work with him, everyone was still bopping to his productions. How is it morally better just because Doja was restrained by a contract? 2 1
Illuminati Posted July 12 Posted July 12 38 minutes ago, #Beautiful said: no one outside of a portion of stan twitter gives a ****. dr luke songs have been topping the charts and getting grammies for years Dr Luke has earned 0 (zero) grammys so far in his long career. Same as Katy, actually! OT: Yes, as she should have expected
babyforlife Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) she should have taken note when HIH went viral, the PEOPLE want that sound from her, not this dated beat in 2024 about empowering woman Edited July 12 by babyforlife typo 2
aotwbys Posted July 12 Posted July 12 18 minutes ago, Robyn. said: I'm sorry but are you guys hearing the same song? Because the hate is forced it seems. This is classic Katy Perry, a dance pop song with an explosive chorus and you guys complaining like this isn't her brand. Perhaps this won't smash in this current music climate, however it's not disconnected from her usual pop smashes. Sorry I'm a huge fan of her. This is not her, at all. (Not to me. ) Even Roar and Part of Me's instrumentals completely sh*t on Woman's World. You can hear the gravitas in Roar, like it has that swooping thing at the bottom which makes it feel powerful. Woman's World is very confused on what it wants to be as the antifeminist feminist not-danceable dance song since the chorus and verses are a total mismatch. Everything about this song, from the multiple versions of the demo to the marketing, screams confusion and panic. Thank God she has the talent to bounce back no matter what & thankfully she has better in this album but they need to get it together
#Beautiful Posted July 12 Posted July 12 15 minutes ago, Illuminati said: Dr Luke has earned 0 (zero) grammys so far in his long career. Same as Katy, actually! OT: Yes, as she should have expected i said dr luke songs. kiss me more got a grammy. reading comprehension and whatnot 1
Illuminati Posted July 12 Posted July 12 1 minute ago, #Beautiful said: i said dr luke songs. kiss me more got a grammy. reading comprehension and whatnot If you want to get into the specifics and reading comprehension, that one single grammy was awarded to Doja's and SZA's performance, not the song. That's why Dr Luke didn't get the award, and hopefully never will! 2
NextBish90 Posted July 12 Posted July 12 It seems that she changed almost nothing from her image and sound, like Taylor Swift. She still deserves the success.
Robyn. Posted July 12 Posted July 12 9 hours ago, Illuminati said: If you want to get into the specifics and reading comprehension, that one single grammy was awarded to Doja's and SZA's performance, not the song. That's why Dr Luke didn't get the award, and hopefully never will! Would there be a performance without the song that HE produced to begin with? You can't possibly be this slow 1
Illuminati Posted July 12 Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Robyn. said: Would there be a performance without the song that HE produced to begin with? You can't possibly be this slow Read the whole exchange again, you seem like you haven't caught up yet Quote Getting grammies for years Name them all, name two if it's the songs that are winning them for years, name one that Dr Luke has received in his very long career. I'm not being bad faith here, you could be backing up the first part of their comment that Dr Luke has been getting hits, but for some reason this is what hit a nerve to several of you
Robyn. Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Illuminati said: Read the whole exchange again, you seem like you haven't caught up yet Name them all, name two if it's the songs that are winning them for years, name one that Dr Luke has received in his very long career. I'm not being bad faith here, you could be backing up the first part of their comment that Dr Luke has been getting hits, but for some reason this is what hit a nerve to several of you lmao, no that is not the topic honey. I quoted you on Kiss Me More specifically, don't back up now. There would be no Grammy without his production. It was a yes or no question, but keep on grasping at straws. Edited July 12 by Robyn.
Illuminati Posted July 12 Posted July 12 2 minutes ago, Robyn. said: lmao, no that is not the topic honey. I quoted you on Kiss Me More specifically, don't back up now. There would be no Grammy without his production. It was a yes or no question, but keep on grasping at straws. My first comment: Dr Luke has 0 grammys, lets not lie to people. My response to you: Dr Luke remains at 0 grammys. In 27 years of his career Dr Luke's production has earned him 0 grammys. I'm not backing up and it speaks volumes that his only chance didn't have him on the credit.
ImmaSlave4u Posted July 12 Posted July 12 No. Beauty always wins and the unfuckables always lose in the end.
Robyn. Posted July 12 Posted July 12 2 minutes ago, Illuminati said: My first comment: Dr Luke has 0 grammys, lets not lie to people. My response to you: Dr Luke remains at 0 grammys. In 27 years of his career Dr Luke's production has earned him 0 grammys. I'm not backing up and it speaks volumes that his only chance didn't have him on the credit. I'm sorry but it's completely oblivious to act like his production still isn't part of that song. Whether they won because of their performance, his production is still backing up their "performance".
ImmaSlave4u Posted July 12 Posted July 12 15 hours ago, Tropical said: SEXY CONFIDENT. SO INTELLIGENT. A bop is a bop You can either get up on the dance floor and have FUN or sit in the corner seething on your phone Both overweight fan bases will be huffing and puffing alone in their bedrooms. It's always the case with them. — WW fun btw
Illuminati Posted July 12 Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Robyn. said: I'm sorry but it's completely oblivious to act like his production still isn't part of that song. Whether they won because of their performance, his production is still backing up their "performance". It's not credited as an achievement by the recording academy, do I need to link you to their contacts? 1
Robyn. Posted July 12 Posted July 12 Just now, Illuminati said: It's not credited as an achievement by the recording academy, do I need to link you to their contacts? No. I need you to have common sense. Because let's say that Dr. Luke isn't credited. How is the song winning a grammy giving him publicity anyway? If we go there, you guys should boycott some of these Doja's songs as well. It's not morally better to listen to a rapist's production because Doja was forced to work with him.
Illuminati Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Robyn. said: No. I need you to have common sense. Because let's say that Dr. Luke isn't credited. How is the song winning a grammy giving him publicity anyway? If we go there, you guys should boycott some of these Doja's songs as well. It's not morally better to listen to a rapist's production because Doja was forced to work with him. If I listened to Kesha's old music would it make me less of a supporter? It's enough for me that Doja is against working with Dr Luke and didn't have him on her latest album. For Katy it was a conscious choice to go back, and this is the fruit of their reunion People who use Doja as a shield have similarly said that Kim Petras got no backlash but she did, plenty. And she doubled down Edited July 12 by Illuminati
Robyn. Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Illuminati said: If I listened to Kesha's old music would it make me less of a supporter? It's enough for me that Doja is against working with Dr Luke and didn't have him on her latest album. For Katy it was a conscious choice to go back, and this is the fruit of their reunion No. Because those songs existed before you KNEW that her producer was a rapist? If we follow morals. You might as well BOYCOTT anything he released after Kesha's revelations. You think you're better than Katy by giving streams to Kiss Me More? The hypocrisy is sending me to venus Edited July 12 by Robyn. 1
Illuminati Posted July 12 Posted July 12 7 minutes ago, Robyn. said: No. Because those songs existed before you KNEW that her producer was a rapist? If we follow morals. You might as well BOYCOTT anything he released after Kesha's revelations. You think you're better than Katy by giving streams to Kiss Me More? The hypocrisy is sending me to venus I don't actually listen to Kiss Me More, old Kesha's music or Kims/Katy's material but me streaming an old Doja track, or an old Kesha track, or an old Marina/P!NK/Kelly track wouldn't change the fact that they all had bad experience with Dr. Luke and have come to support Kesha It's not hypocrisy to support an artist that has the same views as me
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