Daglazzo Posted July 6 Posted July 6 On 7/4/2024 at 10:51 AM, WildHeart said: Mind you Gaga doesn't have any universally acclaimed album to this day. She is the definition of mediocrity Which one of Chromatica, ASIB or Joanne from last 10 years fit all that So why- Saying this while she has born this way and the fame monster is wild. Saying this as Katy Stan is beyond ridiculous 1 1
charot Posted July 6 Posted July 6 You can have all numbers and slay the charts in the streaming era, thanks to huge fanbase, farms or autoplay. However getting the GP on board ... is a different story.
Badgalbriel Posted July 6 Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, charot said: You can have all numbers and slay the charts in the streaming era, thanks to huge fanbase, farms or autoplay. However getting the GP on board ... is a different story. You're saying Taylor Swift, the artist with 20 years of career, became the biggest artist of the century with just a fan base? So you realize how stupid that sounds 2 4
charot Posted July 6 Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Badgalbriel said: You're saying Taylor Swift, the artist with 20 years of career, became the biggest artist of the century with just a fan base? So you realize how stupid that sounds Well, the last time she had a universally known hit was 1989. No one outside the stan bubble knows the willows and the cardigans. 2 2
Badgalbriel Posted July 6 Posted July 6 7 minutes ago, charot said: Well, the last time she had a universally known hit was 1989. No one outside the stan bubble knows the willows and the cardigans. Cruel Summer? Anti Hero? Just from last year 1 2 1 1
CameraFlashes Posted July 6 Posted July 6 because she cant even make a good song after DWUW fft. R.Kelly and Venus 1 3
ChooseyLover Posted July 6 Posted July 6 2 hours ago, Badgalbriel said: Cruel Summer? Anti Hero? Just from last year How did Cruel Summer become so huge? I've always wanted to know
Badgalbriel Posted July 6 Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, ChooseyLover said: How did Cruel Summer become so huge? I've always wanted to know Because everyone tuned it for the eras tour 2 1
Pepo Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) Lady Gaga is massively polarizing while Taylor appeals to the masses. At the end of the day Gaga will be remembered for years to come thanks to her extraordinary impact on Pop music, truly a one of a kind artist. But Taylor? No, she has no classics, legacy, artistry, influence and so on. Huge sales alone won't make you a legend. Edited July 6 by Pepo 8 2
blastoisebaby Posted July 6 Posted July 6 For me Gaga after ArtPop has just been a dip. Although her impact due to TF and TFM has been insane - If it wasn't for her Katy,Nicki,and Beyonce wouldn't have been pulling out daring and avant-garde looks/iconic looks. But her acting is okay. House of Gucci was Terrible. She ate in AHS though. To me TS while being big,doesn't have much impact outside of charts/awards,hits arent necessarily impact. Gaga couldn't reach Taylors heights,because she's Lowkey Niche, Post Artpop hasn't been great,Joanne was okay , but Chromatica was not the girl she thought she was. She'll need to comeback with OG TF/TFM Gaga to really reach the heights of TS rn
Mr_campbell Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Gaga was never as big as her fans believed LBR she was a flash in the pan success (compared to Taylor) and that's okay guys 4 4
Headlock Posted July 6 Posted July 6 12 hours ago, Doctor Dick said: I think that user meant songs like "Fortnight" or "Is It Over Now". They went #1 but Bloody Mary is arguably more famous. I don't get how certain users undermine this. A Gaga-like impact in (Taylor's Version) would be if veteran acts and newcomers whether they were pop or rock or rap or dance incorporated a guitar and Taylor-esque songwriting and all worked with Jack Antanoff. That's what Gaga did when newcomers and older acts started flocking to RedOne for hits and started wearing weird outfits. That's Gaga's peak era. It died down fast but it was there. Sure we have come to have Olivia Rodrigo but that's where it ends because even Sabrina Carpenter isn't Taylor-coded enough to count. That's how huge Gaga's pop culture impact was and Taylor hasn't reached that. They said #1s this decade, and even said it's ~debatable~ that Anti-Hero is bigger than… Bloody Mary. Again, I love this website 2
burninredhot Posted July 7 Posted July 7 On 7/4/2024 at 1:46 PM, cuteboyzay said: You're the LAST user anybody should rely on when it comes to being unbiased in regards to Taylor LMFAOOOO!!! Gaga's last bowel outtake would have more meaning than the last thing Taylor ever felt the need to speak up out for! You're right I'm biased just like every user on here is to some artist. But what's the reason behind it? I find Taylor's discography much better. I'm not forcing you to agree with me no? 1
longjohn9898 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Taylor's goal as a businesswoman is to take minimal risks and create the most bland, widely palatable music available that can appeal to the masses. She's the definition of quantity over quality. She seeks external validation and her "artistic" moves as a businesswoman aren't real art because she's catering to what she believes people want to hear. She doesn't have much vocal or performing skill but her lyrics appeal to a demographic who have the means and time on their hands to Spotify autoplay her streams and fly to Europe to find cheaper concert tickets. Respect to her for being a businesswoman, but she's not an artist and her music is extremely repetitive and limited in its impact. Even her biggest "hits" are extremely basic and not memorable. Gaga is actually an artist who takes clear risks with every turn of her career. She knows how to make amazing pop music, but she used the stratospheric peak of her career to dedicate to a polarizing cause at the time of supporting the LGBTQ community in an lyrically explicit, risky, and in-your-face way that had never been done before. Even after receiving backlash, she continued to be genuine in her support and took risks as an artist afterwards because that's who she is at her core—an artist and someone who has always been nurtured by the LGTBQ community. She has talent, creativity, intelligence, and versatility that is truly unmatched by virtually all of her peers in this generation. Having one album be more successful or not doesn't impact a legendary, influential artist like Lady Gaga because her legacy is already there and she has the talent to maneuver to different areas of her art and take risks in a way that Taylor can't. We are seeing two completely different people with polar opposite goals and artistry. 3 2
Hot Volcano Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Honestly, had Cruel Summer not smashed as much as is did, Taylor's career would've looked much different.
Headlock Posted July 7 Posted July 7 3 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Honestly, had Cruel Summer not smashed as much as is did, Taylor's career would've looked much different. Well guess what Mimi, it did. So, what now? 1
Strawberry Bubble Posted July 8 Posted July 8 (edited) On 7/6/2024 at 4:28 AM, charot said: Well, the last time she had a universally known hit was 1989. No one outside the stan bubble knows the willows and the cardigans. The last time Lady Gaga had a universally known hit was with 'Born This Way.' While 'Shallow' was certainly big, it can't compare to the iconic hits 'Born This Way,' 'Poker Face,' or 'Bad Romance,' which are now 13 years old. Edited July 8 by Strawberry Bubble 4
Soda Pop Queen Posted July 8 Posted July 8 psssh, give me Stefani's "heights" any day over Swift's. Things were never dull with prime Gaga. 2 1
banterfly Posted July 8 Posted July 8 Gaga kept on replicating The Fame/ TFM with each album (except Joanne). After TF/TFM, she also significantly narrowed her fanbase to a particular demographic, essentially abandoning the GP. Taylor from day 1 kept on showing love to her fans (even though some were probably for show). She built a very strong relationship with her fans that despite not having true hits that justify her strong album sales, she kept on churning in those numbers. For most artists, organic hits drive album sales, but not for Taylor. It doesn't apply to her.
Eternal220 Posted July 8 Posted July 8 On 7/6/2024 at 8:15 PM, Pepo said: Lady Gaga is massively polarizing while Taylor appeals to the masses. At the end of the day Gaga will be remembered for years to come thanks to her extraordinary impact on Pop music, truly a one of a kind artist. But Taylor? No, she has no classics, legacy, artistry, influence and so on. Huge sales alone won't make you a legend. Madonna was even more polarizing than gaga but that didn't stop her from becoming one of the best selling female artists like Taylor. Lets not use that as an excuse. The facts are gaga's career massively declined after her debut not because of anything polarizing but the music was just bad and the GP weren't into it. 1 2
TayDuaStan Posted July 8 Posted July 8 8 hours ago, duadududt said: at least Gaga can act Ok…. is that supposed to mean anything? Congrats to her, i guess. I would too find other endeavours if my music career hasn't been relevant in like a decade… 1 4
charot Posted July 9 Posted July 9 (edited) On 7/6/2024 at 5:25 PM, Badgalbriel said: You're saying Taylor Swift, the artist with 20 years of career, became the biggest artist of the century with just a fan base? So you realize how stupid that sounds Let's not act like it's not possible. It's literally the case with BTS. She's not the female BTS for nothing. Edited July 9 by charot 2
Solarie Posted July 9 Posted July 9 On 7/4/2024 at 4:21 AM, selena_lavigne said: That may be how you see it. The way i see it she has been good with the public forever except for the fact that some chose to not consume her content due to some of what has been mentioned previously. First off, after i end it with Applause being a smash, which it was, she was all over the radio, she then proceeded with DWUW. After that she made a jazz album that went #1 I THINK. Working with a legend but for me, since i don't listen to jazz well we were introduced to a legend. She then proceeded to have very incredibly successful performance of The Sound of Music. She then proceeded to have a well received performance in AHS. She then proceeded to do Joanne which did over 200K first week. Not bad for a flop. She then proceeded to do the super bowl which catapulted her discography and made Million Reasons have longevity. And then she proceeded to have a sold out 95 Million dollar tour. Which then proceeded to ASIB. And the smash hits on there. She has been proving her legendary status for decades. And i'm not speaking on her personally since i don't know her, but i'm just talking about what i hear from other people and what i see on my computer. You truly are one of the most deluded users on this website. 3
selena_lavigne Posted July 9 Posted July 9 6 minutes ago, Solarie said: You truly are one of the most deluded users on this website. Looked the word up. What do i believe that isn't true? 1
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