NoAngelus Posted July 14 Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, 365 said: There's no way she can recover without TTH, people acting brand new and comparing it to singles that were added straight away to TTH There's no point at adding it to TTH because no one likes the song, that won't change with playlist support.
AvadaKedavra Posted July 14 Posted July 14 (edited) Im dying for new music of katy but honestly i wouldnt mind if she scraps this record. Save the max martin-stargate-hitmakers songs for later and start all over again with a new concept without dr puke involvement next year. Then in the next months the songs from 143 unexpectly leak makin all those vinyls and cds was 4 sure expensive but take the loss mom....... Dr Luke is really poison for pop artists. Definitely no one should work with him anymore even if he has some good productions there and there. She also needs to be more humble and apologize to KESHA. That would help so much. Everyone would forgive her a bit. Apologize and tell people to stream JOYRIDE Woman World is a Bomb. The album will only hurt her brand and pull a Witness 2.0 or worse. The tour will not sell well. So, what honestly the point???? But capitol is honestly stupid If i were the capitol ceo i would block the release of this album. She didnt follow our advice and went for this single.....So we block her release. Labels dont have balls today. Stop giving her so much creative freedom. She doesnt know how to manage her career Edited July 14 by AvadaKedavra 3 1
Stunnah Posted July 14 Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, unclefloprry said: The one-sided beef some Katy stans have with Dua is so... The only thing they have in common is that they're both pretty white girls with black hair. Dua is respected by the industry, by her peers and by the gp; respect that Katy never had and never will. They're both flops, so they have that in common. At least Katy was 33 when it first happened. Dua is 28 (flop ongoing). 2 2
_Fey Posted July 14 Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Stunnah said: They're both flops, so they have that in common. At least Katy was 33 when it first happened. Dua is 28 (flop ongoing). Can't wait to see Katy sell out stadiums too then, since she and Dua are both flops! 5 1
KatyPrismSpirit Posted July 14 Posted July 14 the way ice spice is keeping the lights on at capitol records with her latest single
Stunnah Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Just now, _Fey said: Can't wait to see Katy sell out stadiums too then, since she and Dua are both flops! The WITNESS Tour outgrossed the FUTURE NOSTALGIA tour. Calm down.
unclefloprry Posted July 14 Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, Stunnah said: The WITNESS Tour outgrossed the FUTURE NOSTALGIA tour. Calm down. average per show Prismatic World Tour: 1.3M FNT: 1.26M Witness the tour: 1.05 California Dreams: 450K 1 1
Phaunzie Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Katycats, 2 days have gone. How are we doing? Are we ready for the new week? Hopefully, she gives us a performance before the next single. Personally, I hope she gives the concept, I think she is gonna give it. Oh yeah, that MV was parody throughout, the last part gives me those car and sportwear commercials.
Stunnah Posted July 14 Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, unclefloprry said: average per show Prismatic World Tour: 1.3M FNT: 1.26M Witness the tour: 1.05 California Dreams: 450K Hey, I would love if you could adjust those figures for inflation! Thanks. Would be really interested to see how they would look.
Phaunzie Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Alright, @Stunnah ignore those girls because they ain't worth it. Just know their fave is listening to WW, pre-ordered the album and bought the single. 1 1
DonnieDarko Posted July 14 Posted July 14 I mean what's the point in dragging Dua Lipa here? Isn't Houdini still charting on Spotify ww? If not, then I'm sure it lasted more than one day. Katy is just not a mainstream or relevant pop star anymore and that's fine. She's done a lot. Let's treat WW as a fun song for the fans.
kayliah Posted July 14 Posted July 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buzzcutseason said: I doubt radio will play it tho after leaving spotify chart yeah i agree. the hate bandwagon is too strong for radio to play the song past a radio or 1st week payola. It dropped out of spotify global and us spotify so yeah its a huge catastrophe even though that wont deter me from giving her album streams. I dont know if the album and vinyls,cds are already produced but she can pull a focus by ariana grande and rework the whole album and hire other producers... and have a meeting with the record label to see how to course correct this era but the damage is done since in the eyes of the public,she's not a girl's girl and worked with an 'alleged' abuser.You're guilty before proven guilty these days. Edited July 14 by kayliah 1
OrgVisual Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Time to declare this a buzz single and remove Dr Luke from the album
_Fey Posted July 14 Posted July 14 32 minutes ago, Stunnah said: The WITNESS Tour outgrossed the FUTURE NOSTALGIA tour. Calm down. This random comparison 💀 If flop Dua is able to sell out stadiums after getting out grossed by the Witness Tour, I'm very excited to see how Katy's next tour does! 5
aesthetic Posted July 14 Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, OrgVisual said: Time to declare this a buzz single and remove Dr Luke from the album is that even possible at this point
kayliah Posted July 14 Posted July 14 51 minutes ago, AvadaKedavra said: Im dying for new music of katy but honestly i wouldnt mind if she scraps this record. Save the max martin-stargate-hitmakers songs for later and start all over again with a new concept without dr puke involvement next year. Then in the next months the songs from 143 unexpectly leak makin all those vinyls and cds was 4 sure expensive but take the loss mom....... Dr Luke is really poison for pop artists. Definitely no one should work with him anymore even if he has some good productions there and there. She also needs to be more humble and apologize to KESHA. That would help so much. Everyone would forgive her a bit. Apologize and tell people to stream JOYRIDE Woman World is a Bomb. The album will only hurt her brand and pull a Witness 2.0 or worse. The tour will not sell well. So, what honestly the point???? But capitol is honestly stupid If i were the capitol ceo i would block the release of this album. She didnt follow our advice and went for this single.....So we block her release. Labels dont have balls today. Stop giving her so much creative freedom. She doesnt know how to manage her career Maybe it was the label who forced her to work with Dr Luke since she was flopping and dr luke was giving top 10 hits and numbers ones to doja cat. She could blame the record label for working with dr luke. The label takes the L, release a statement that help Katy win back the public and then rebrand for next year. It is all about optics. 1 1
Tistotal Posted July 14 Posted July 14 36 minutes ago, Phaunzie said: Katycats, 2 days have gone. How are we doing? Are we ready for the new week? Hopefully, she gives us a performance before the next single. Personally, I hope she gives the concept, I think she is gonna give it. Oh yeah, that MV was parody throughout, the last part gives me those car and sportwear commercials. horrible, she better retire 3
Stunnah Posted July 14 Posted July 14 15 minutes ago, _Fey said: This random comparison 💀 If flop Dua is able to sell out stadiums after getting out grossed by the Witness Tour, I'm very excited to see how Katy's next tour does! Random? Dua's last tour and Katy's last tour. Hardly random. Anyway, the Future Nostalgia Tour Grossed $1,360,097.40 per date in 2024 dollars. The Witness Tour grossed $1,337,294.71 per date in 2024 dollars. Twin flops! 1
Rico Shameless v2 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Okay after sitting it with this weekend the song does generally suck, sadly. Like it's catchy, it has those elements that it wants to attack but just doesn't. She sounds great at least. I think the whole image rebrand just to deliver more of the same is what is hurting her more than anything. The Luke drama definitely but if they had served an actual bop (as Luke has managed to do with other girls), it wouldn't have come down so hard on her. Being a "feminist" anthem with a Republican male music video kind of sealed it the fate as well. And she's just too silly for anyone to really want to listen to her. She gives that aura of being of a "past time". People enjoy the old classics but she's serving up the same ****. Which sucks because NRO and HIH did push her forward a bit. However a lot of the snippets she played do sound better than WW. I think whatever Max Martin tracks she has will change the course. 2
Enrique523 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 2 hours ago, _Fey said: Did they put both her first two albums in their entirety on TTH? The 7th and 8th most streamed albums in history? Not to mention the fact that it's already been shown multiple times that the majority of the streams for Dua's hits don't come from TTH plays. OT: sexy confident so intelligent Yeah, people pretending Dua's success with her first 2 albums is because of TTH are not serious people, it's been debunked so many times at this point You don't get to have the 7th and 8th most streamed albums of all time just because of TTH, that's just not how it works otherwise anybody would do it 1
Stunnah Posted July 14 Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: Yeah, people pretending Dua's success with her first 2 albums is because of TTH are not serious people, it's been debunked so many times at this point You don't get to have the 7th and 8th most streamed albums of all time just because of TTH, that's just not how it works otherwise anybody would do it Her albums are playlists. 1 1
Enrique523 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 2 hours ago, unclefloprry said: The one-sided beef some Katy stans have with Dua is so... The only thing they have in common is that they're both pretty white girls with black hair. Dua is respected by the industry, by her peers and by the gp; respect that Katy never had and never will. Thank you. Dua is also WAY more talented than Katy has ever been Katy stans need to calm down seriously, you guys have no leg to stand on about anything at this point, especially after the way Kesha has been attacked so viciously in the name of this song 4 3
Enrique523 Posted July 14 Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Stunnah said: Her albums are playlists. Whatever helps you sleep at night Her albums are that successful because most songs were huge hits INDIVIDUALLY, regardless of how many songs are on it. Perfect example: Dua's self titled debut has 25 songs on it, Beyonce's last album has 27 songs. Guess which album had more success? 4
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