Mezik Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 39 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: So do you think they shouldnt have been saved? peaceful solutions were given by US/Israel recently and it was rejected.. weird. The fact you think Innocent people should not be saved by terrorists says a lot about the people here. The fact that your lack of intellect is showing when you forget to mention it's Israel refusing all solutions to end this conflict. But hey I get Zionists lack brain cells and critical thinking. Also they aren't mutually exclusive. I never once said saving the hostages was bad, I said it's devastating the terrorists murdered hundreds of innocent Palestinians. Also where's your anger about the 3 hostages the IDF killed? You seem awfully silent about that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenSoul Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 13 minutes ago, Mezik said: The fact that your lack of intellect is showing when you forget to mention it's Israel refusing all solutions to end this conflict. But hey I get Zionists lack brain cells and critical thinking. Also they aren't mutually exclusive. I never once said saving the hostages was bad, I said it's devastating the terrorists murdered hundreds of innocent Palestinians. Also where's your anger about the 3 hostages the IDF killed? You seem awfully silent about that. Israel refusing all solutions? Hamas literally rejected a deal 3 days ago I need proof that IDF killed 3 hostages first if the only source is Hamas then yeah I wont believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mezik Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said: Israel refusing all solutions? Hamas literally rejected a deal 3 days ago I need proof that IDF killed 3 hostages first if the only source is Hamas then yeah I wont believe that. Israel has refused multiple solutions brought forward, don't play dumb. Oh Al Jazeera - a widely reputable international news source - is suddenly Hamas? Your racism is showing, and it's disgusting. But I guess you read 'credible news sources' like the Israel Times or whatever propaganda Twitter account they claim is a government entity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, ForgottenSoul said: This thread really says a lot that so many are made innocent hostages were saved.. they wish hamas had more leverage I guess +4 Israeli hostages freed the IDF -3 Israeli hostages killed by the IDF - 270 Palestinians killed by the IDF ------------------------------------------- "WHY AREN'T YOU CELEBRATING????? YOU'RE JUST AN ANTISEMITE!!!!" Edited June 9 by Communion 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 4 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: Israel refusing all solutions? Hamas literally rejected a deal 3 days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenSoul Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 9 minutes ago, Mezik said: Israel has refused multiple solutions brought forward, don't play dumb. Oh Al Jazeera - a widely reputable international news source - is suddenly Hamas? Your racism is showing, and it's disgusting. But I guess you read 'credible news sources' like the Israel Times or whatever propaganda Twitter account they claim is a government entity. So has hamas though? Nothing I said is racist I just wait for multiple sources lmfao. Also this is what Al Jazeera said "Al-Jazeera, Hamas claims that 3 hostages died in the massacre. " So yeah sorry I wont just take hamas words as face value. 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Okay so both are rejecting deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: Okay so both are rejecting deals? Netanyahu has quite literally said he will reject any deal that doesn't include "the destruction of Hamas" - something that cannot physically be done. The US is aiding Israel in avoiding clamp downs by international courts to buy time and maximize how many Palestinians they can kill while themselves rejecting offers on Israel's behalf that would remove Hamas from power. How many more Palestinians must die for one to understand that the goal of Israel has nothing to do with hostages but the continued elimination of the Palestinian people? Edited June 9 by Communion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 5 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: So has hamas though? Nothing I said is racist I just wait for multiple sources lmfao. Also this is what Al Jazeera said "Al-Jazeera, Hamas claims that 3 hostages died in the massacre. " So yeah sorry I wont just take hamas words as face value. Okay so both are rejecting deals? I counted 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashAndBurn Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: So has hamas though? Nothing I said is racist I just wait for multiple sources lmfao. Also this is what Al Jazeera said "Al-Jazeera, Hamas claims that 3 hostages died in the massacre. " So yeah sorry I wont just take hamas words as face value. Okay so both are rejecting deals? What both sides want is mutually exclusive to one another. Hamas want the war to end entirely and to fully exchange hostages and political prisoners (150+ Israelis vs. thousands of Palestinians being brutalized and sodomized with hot metal rods by the IDF). Israel wants a 6-week pause to get all of their hostages out with no prisoner exchange at all and then to resume the war after Hamas has given up all leverage so they can ethnically cleanse and establish settlements and waterfront resorts in the Gaza Strip. I don't know why you people would expect Hamas to accept such a one-sided deal when the slaughter wouldn't even stop if all the hostages were returned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welham Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, ForgottenSoul said: Of course no hostages would ever die in precious hamas care right? What are you trying to argue here? Reading your responses to others make it seem like you're trolling. What I'm saying is that the attack was so vicious, indiscriminate, and irresponsible that not only +270 Palestinians died, but 3 hostages as well. Of course they wouldn't survive under Hamas' captivity when the IDF bombs the **** out of the place they're staying in. Also, why would Hamas want the hostages dead when they're "worth" more than if they are dead in a hostage exchange deal? Use your brain... So again, what are you trying to argue you here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenSoul Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 11 minutes ago, Communion said: Netanyahu has quite literally said he will reject any deal that doesn't include "the destruction of Hamas" - something that cannot physically be done. The US is aiding Israel in avoiding clamp downs by international courts to buy time and maximize how many Palestinians they can kill while themselves rejecting offers on Israel's behalf that would remove Hamas from power. How many more Palestinians must die for one to understand that the goal of Israel has nothing to do with hostages but the continued elimination of the Palestinian people? Okay and Hamas are rejecting any deal also? Both are acting the same in this regards or cant you admit that Hamas doesnt simply want peace either? 7 minutes ago, ClashAndBurn said: What both sides want is mutually exclusive to one another. Hamas want the war to end entirely and to fully exchange hostages and political prisoners (150+ Israelis vs. thousands of Palestinians being brutalized and sodomized with hot metal rods by the IDF). Israel wants a 6-week pause to get all of their hostages out with no prisoner exchange at all and then to resume the war after Hamas has given up all leverage so they can ethnically cleanse and establish settlements and waterfront resorts in the Gaza Strip. I don't know why you people would expect Hamas to accept such a one-sided deal when the slaughter wouldn't even stop if all the hostages were returned. Both sides want the other side to die, Hamas doesnt want the war to end they want this confilict to end lets be real. 8 minutes ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: I counted 11. Okay does this disprove what I said? hamas have rejected deals also and did just 3 days ago. 4 minutes ago, welham said: What are you trying to argue here? Reading your responses to others make it seem like you're trolling. What I'm saying is that the attack was so vicious, indiscriminate, and irresponsible that not only +270 Palestinians died, but 3 hostages as well. Of course they wouldn't survive under Hamas' captivity when the IDF bombs the **** out of the place they're staying in. Also, why would Hamas want the hostages dead when they're "worth" more than if they are dead in a hostage exchange deal? Use your brain... So again, what are you trying to argue you here? My point is we have no proof how those 3 hostages died we have hamas claiming something are you saying that all hostage deaths are due to IDF and Hamas didnt mistreat them at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said: My point is we have no proof how those 3 hostages died we have hamas claiming something are you saying that all hostage deaths are due to IDF and Hamas didnt mistreat them at all? Sorry but have you seen the images of Israeli hostages and how they looked like before and after being captured/released compared to those Palestinians taken prisoner by Israel? One is CLEARLY being mistreated more than the other, considering the hostages released during the temporary ceasefire deals last year were smiling from ear to ear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenSoul Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 minute ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: Sorry but have you seen the images of Israeli hostages and how they looked like before and after being captured/released compared to those Palestinians taken prisoner by Israel? One is CLEARLY being mistreated more than the other, considering the hostages released during the temporary ceasefire deals last year were smiling from ear to ear. Okay so both are bad but you ignore one side blindly? Or is it blindly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroSuitBritney Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Just now, ForgottenSoul said: Okay so both are bad but you ignore one side blindly? Or is it blindly. I'm not ignoring anything. One side has killed almost 40,000 people in 8 months in Gaza and ~500 in the West Bank (where Hamas isn't present), the other ~1200. You are the one clearly ignoring one side. Were the 4 hostages being rescued worth 280 dead Palestinians? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 26 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: Okay and Hamas are rejecting any deal also? There is no deal that Israel is proposing for Hamas to accept or reject. Israel's deal is "release all the hostages and prepare to be killed"? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TouchinFree Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 This life is a ******* joke. What a ****** up world we live in that some lives are valued more than others based on skin, ethnicity and religion. Karma will get those colonisers and baby murderers. Hopefully in a worse way than what they've committed for 75 years. Otherwise my faith in everything is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SinnerCity Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 9 hours ago, ForgottenSoul said: So do you think they shouldnt have been saved? peaceful solutions were given by US/Israel recently and it was rejected.. weird. The fact you think Innocent people should not be saved by terrorists says a lot about the people here. The fact that IDF 'saved' the hostages says a lot about Hamas when they could've easily killed them after you know, a ******* genocide. There's nothing worth of celebration when the lives of many, especially children have been taken away merciless. Do not compare ever what IDF has done to Palestine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgottenSoul Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) 11 hours ago, ZeroSuitBritney said: I'm not ignoring anything. One side has killed almost 40,000 people in 8 months in Gaza and ~500 in the West Bank (where Hamas isn't present), the other ~1200. You are the one clearly ignoring one side. Were the 4 hostages being rescued worth 280 dead Palestinians? No, I said a few times in this thread both are bad but your side seems to not condemn Hamas at all? You obviously dont care about Palestine if you think Hamas is who they should be led by. I think both Hamas and IDF are trash and the leadership of both countries should get fked but you're not able to admit that Hamas is bad? Very telling. 11 hours ago, Communion said: There is no deal that Israel is proposing for Hamas to accept or reject. Israel's deal is "release all the hostages and prepare to be killed"? I see so all deals are bad unless Hamas gets the exact terms it wants after doing a terrorist attack.. makes sense. 4 hours ago, SinnerCity said: The fact that IDF 'saved' the hostages says a lot about Hamas when they could've easily killed them after you know, a ******* genocide. There's nothing worth of celebration when the lives of many, especially children have been taken away merciless. Do not compare ever what IDF has done to Palestine. Hamas wants to do what IDF is doing but it cant, keep defending them when they get their state eventually you think they will be peaceful? They want the destruction of Israel but then again so do the people on this website. 10 hours ago, TouchinFree said: This life is a ******* joke. What a ****** up world we live in that some lives are valued more than others based on skin, ethnicity and religion. Karma will get those colonisers and baby murderers. Hopefully in a worse way than what they've committed for 75 years. Otherwise my faith in everything is done. Funny you say that when Hamas wanted to trade a few Israeli hostages for 1k prisoners. Edited June 10 by ForgottenSoul 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BGKC Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 (edited) 17 hours ago, ForgottenSoul said: I think both Hamas and IDF are trash and the leadership of both countries should get fked but you're not able to admit that Hamas is bad? Very telling. Well then you should really consider the fact that one would not exist without the other. For one, Israel facilitated the transfer of millions from Qatar to Hamas as a divide and conquer method in preventing a unified Palestine state between The Gaza Strip and The West Bank. Netenyahu was very open about this. So while Israel helped prop up Hamas, they are now using them as an excuse to displace and exterminate Palestinian civilians in order to seize control of the Gaza Strip. The IDF also detained Palestinian children without charge or trial for decades, radicalizing young minds as well as their entire families into supporting/fighting along side Hamas. This is just one example of Israel strategically fueling Hamas (as if the Palestinian people had any other option or form of defense)… the rage that fuels Hamas provides Israel an excuse to carry out their heinous war crimes in the name of expansion and occupation. The goal was always set on securing Gaza (and never about eradicating Hamas) And atp, there is no turning back. No sane Palestinian would EVER bury this hatchet and move on. They've been dehumanized for decades as their families were torn apart and slaughtered. This reality will make Israel a universal pariah with enemies all over the world. It's all down hill for them (and any country that continually supports them) Edited June 11 by BGKC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Communion Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 11 hours ago, ForgottenSoul said: I see so all deals are bad unless Hamas gets the exact terms it wants after doing a terrorist attack.. makes sense. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katysuxx Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 On 6/8/2024 at 2:36 PM, airplane said: Thoughts on your country murdering 15,000 innocent children in the past 8 months? I assume they're not white, ginger, and cute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegvisir Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Anyways free Palestine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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