Communion Posted June 7 Author Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, Jotham said: who complain "but what about my free speech!!!!" No one thinks employment is free speech. I promise it's not that hard to read plainly written titles in simple sentences. It's not even more than 15 words. Rising fashions and promises itself as a platform that "likes to have conversations" and "platforming challenging views from all sides". But just like all actually right-wing platforms and right-wing arguments for "free speech", they have no actual support for defending leftists' right to be free of suppression. And they themselves just as quickly play into all of the same tactics - but actually happening - that they claim they face. Proving the reality that left-wing speech is the most suppressed. Rising has shown that criticizing ethno-nationalism and a Jewish supremacist state is somehow too far for them and their top executives.
Bosque Posted June 7 Posted June 7 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sannie said: The fact that the left is ignoring innocent women being raped by Hamas because they would then have to admit Hamas is bad, is so pathetic and contradictory to the entire leftist ethos. They have thrown everything away in the name of Palestine. You would think that they could at least say that yes, rape is bad. I guess that is too much for them these days. Just recently after October 7 they were still pretending like they don't support Hamas, "only the Palestinian civilians". That thin veil of pretense has been lifted completely - at this point it's becoming obvious the goal is to completely purify Hamas of any potential wrongdoing, so that they can continue thinking in their neatly separated boxes of Israel = evil and Hamas = great, liberal, pluralistic. It's the same reason the western extreme left has also elevated the Iranian Mullahs and the Houthis to the status of noble freedom fighters, and are completely ignoring their minor human rights oopsies such as mass-executing peaceful demonstrators and reinstating slavery in Yemen. 11 hours ago, Kimbra said: Mind you she rolled her eyes at an Isreali women asking for empathy towards Isreali female hostages who have faced sexual violence. Y'all are letting your anti-west hatred make you lose your values. I'm so glad I left leftist politics. Amazing how within just a few years the left went from "believe all women" to "no Jewish person has ever been raped, and if they did, they deserved it, and it was an act of Resistance". They didn't even dare include this information in the thread. Instead a rape apologist is elevated as the left's new heroic figure and some sort of beacon of investigative journalism, and her firing from one of her many highly-paid consulting positions painted as some sort of anti-freedom of speech crackdown. Edited June 7 by Bosque 4 5
Communion Posted June 7 Author Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, Bosque said: Israel = evil and Hamas = great My brother in Christ, you are just returning from a 3 month ban - something a name change won't hide - for this obscene post: I urge you to not make declarations about people whitewashing the crimes of a nation. 3 1
Princess Aurora Posted June 7 Posted June 7 well, it's not like The Hill is high-quality journalism so it's not like she lost something important
Delirious Posted June 7 Posted June 7 (edited) 8 hours ago, Communion said: My brother in Christ, you are just returning from a 3 month ban - something a name change won't hide - for this obscene post: I urge you to not make declarations about people whitewashing the crimes of a nation. My brother in Christ, did you not get a previous warning for threatening ATRL users to get their IP addresses or something just because they disagreed with you on something? I urge you not to make declarations about 'free speech' when you are fighting against it. And especially when you are a communist. Edited June 7 by Delirious 1 1
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted June 7 ATRL Moderator Posted June 7 11 hours ago, Sannie said: Leftists not understanding what free speech is. Actually, this is you just simply not getting the criticism? It's the joke that the right-wing loves to pretend they are "free speech absolutists" because they think it's outrageous you get banned on a social media platform for using slurs against marginalized people. So, asking where the free speech warriors are at mocking right wingers. A platform, like Rising, that claims to want to bring both right-wing and left-wing populists to discuss current events in an open platform and allow free opinions firing one side for sharing a common view is antithetical to the mission statement. No one is saying this is a violation of the first amendment. We are saying that it is hypocritical of what The Hill's Rising alleged to stand for. I promise, this isn't that difficult to grasp. It's pretty straightforward. — OT: Well, there's no reason to tune into Rising. Robby is insufferably dense and Briahna was the only commentator they had left that was interesting. 2
FOCK Posted June 7 Posted June 7 That guest literally implied American arabs in Michigan were going to do "another 9/11". Then took the opportunity right at the cusp end of the interview to throw a jab, suggesting Bri somehow doesn't hold empathy for r*pe victims… based on nothing but brainwashed rhetoric. She was set up specifically to attempt to smear Bri's character. She's clearly a hasbara talking plant & Bri was right not to put up with it. Unsubscribed from the h*ll, who the fock is staying for Robbie Sauve Will continue to support on Patreon - Bri's work is invaluable. 1
State of Grace. Posted June 7 Posted June 7 Not the "mass rape" myths from 2023 again making their way here Pathetic.
Bosque Posted June 7 Posted June 7 3 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Not the "mass rape" myths from 2023 again making their way here Pathetic. I'll never understand how disgusting rape apologia like this (as long as the "correct" people are targeted) is not ZTP worthy but okay. Hope it was worth your soul girl 3
State of Grace. Posted June 7 Posted June 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bosque said: I'll never understand how disgusting rape apologia like this (as long as the "correct" people are targeted) is not ZTP worthy but okay. Hope it was worth your soul girl Go away Dephira. You shouldn't be talking about disgusting rape apologia and ZTPs when you're quite literally one of the loudest Israel defenders on the website. The absolute lack of shame and self awareness. Edited June 7 by State of Grace. 2
Bosque Posted June 8 Posted June 8 (edited) 13 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Go away Dephira. You shouldn't be talking about disgusting rape apologia and ZTPs when you're quite literally one of the loudest Israel defenders on the website. The absolute lack of shame and self awareness. Go ahead, quote a post of mine where I defended and denied rape like you just did Edited June 8 by Bosque
Communion Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 (edited) 10 hours ago, Delirious said: did you not get a previous warning for threatening ATRL users to get their IP addresses or something ...no? Why would someone get warned for a post that joked that some users are weird and lie about (or intentionally hide/obscure) where they live and are posting from, and that their political posts would be outed for the trolling they're doing if forced to actually answer questions like "and where do you live?" I mean, you justified your own personal Islamophobia and numerous ZTP posts degrading Muslims by some claims of experience and of being ex-Muslim and thus being entitled to "speak on the tyranny of Islam" only to recently share by your own volition that your posts calling for the subjugation of Muslims in the West are being made from the suburbs of like... Melbourne? At least some of us are honest about our experiences. Another difference between those of us on the left and y'all on the right, encapsulated by Rising sacking Brie because they don't actually want free speech for leftists. Edited June 8 by Communion
i spit on haters Posted June 8 Posted June 8 22 hours ago, Communion said: Of course a Joe "Proud Zionist" Biden stan is going to endorse Israel's attacks on both the UN spokesperson whose report confirmed no evidence or allegations to investigate of mass sexual assault, and the journalists who have referenced the report to debunk the claim by the Israel government that "there are no innocents in Gaza". Briahna did not roll her eyes at anyone - a sister of one of the Israeli political prisoners got to be on Rising and was treated very graciously, even after blatantly lying about reported facts on the ceasefire deal, and then attacked Briahna for "not believing women" at the closing of the segment for the report Briahna did just days prior. Briahna's segment on the UN report that no evidence of sexual assault could be substantiated: The clip you're seemingly referencing - tweeted out largely by right-wing Israel accounts (again, astroturfed) - includes Briahna wishing the woman well, telling her she's praying for her sister's return, and that she hopes her sister is safe, even after the woman goes on a racist rant about how "not siding with Israel" will lead to Muslims in Michigan "doing 9/11 2.0". Good on Briahna for pushing back on a non-American suggesting America's Arab populations are just waiting to do "9/11 2.0". Not to mention that racist little ***** (typical behavior from them) fear-mongered earlier in that same segment about Mexico. They see everyone with Black and brown skin as ominous. Any way, this show will undoubtedly tank now. At least Bri still has her successful podcast. Oddly enough, I also feel relieved for her because I would often feel as irritated as Bri often looked having to deal with Robby everyday. I don't know how she did it but I couldn't tolerate having a co-worker like that. 1
i spit on haters Posted June 8 Posted June 8 26 minutes ago, Bosque said: I'll never understand how disgusting rape apologia like this (as long as the "correct" people are targeted) is not ZTP worthy but okay. Hope it was worth your soul girl ...So...you want people to be more outraged over intentional fabricated stories of mass rape, which yes, I'm telling you did not happen as opposed to actual rapes that happen to Palestinian women (and the pedophilia that Israel engages in, which has been substantiated). You also want people to be more outraged over intentional fabricated stories of beheaded Israeli babies as opposed to the actual thousands of deceased kids that people see everyday on their timelines ? 2
Communion Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 1 hour ago, Bosque said: Go ahead, quote a post of mine where I defended and denied rape like you just did *blinks* 2
ClashAndBurn Posted June 8 Posted June 8 Most of The Hill's videos from the past 24 hrs haven't even broken 5 digit views 2
Communion Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 (edited) Per Brie, her producer on Rising was increasingly pushing her to have "more balanced, pro-Israel voices" on (despite Brie's radars often getting the most views), the producer then pushed for the sister who oddly reached out to Rising about wanting to be interviewed by Brie. Edited June 9 by Communion
Communion Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 A foreign government is seemingly spending money to intimidate, harass, and coerce into a silence a well-known black American journalist. Odd this isn't a bigger story.
FOCK Posted June 10 Posted June 10 On 6/9/2024 at 2:32 PM, Communion said: Per Brie, her producer on Rising was increasingly pushing her to have "more balanced, pro-Israel voices" on (despite Brie's radars often getting the most views), the producer then pushed for the sister who oddly reached out to Rising about wanting to be interviewed by Brie. Bri goes into further detail on her Bad Faith ep that just dropped on Patreon & the details are even more shameless on The Hill's part. It was entirely set up by the guests brother, who reached out to the producer & requested that she specifically speak with Bri. You could smell the hasbara from a mile away. She claimed she didn't want to "get political" when it was her m.o. to come for Bri's character from the get go - & it was in fact Bri that kept attempting to drive the conversation back to the hostages & how best to guarantee her sister's freedom. She notes there was a major staff change sometime in January, with essentially an entirely new team at The Hill & there was massive pushback & restrictions placed on Israel related topics that she was up against. 1
Daddy Posted June 15 Posted June 15 Zionists are just European Nazis so no wonder they freak out at the sight of a black woman owning them.
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