discussion Is anyone seeing an influx of homophobic and transphobic things across social media?

[Gwendolyn]

Only a few years ago, this would've been taboo to talk about; with the rise of facism and discrimination, I'm starting to worry Gen Z is becoming increasingly intolerant. 1 million+ likes on trans and homophobic tiktoks should be raising alarm bells, I'm hearing my own coursemates parrote transphobic jokes and I'm surprised that people think this gen is that progressive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[duadududt]

yes it is. I'm not saying we should blame LGBT people but I think we should have never normalized making self hate jokes so popular, especially on an app like tiktok, where people copy and paste what others say.. thinking they have a right to say the same things. transphobic and homophobic jokes, harassing any man who shows any kind of femininity (and I know atrl loves doing this as well) and more are some of the stuff I see on that app almost daily and it is worrying because we're going backwards.

Edited May 26 by duadududt

[Europe]

It's just the Andrew Tate effect.

[stars]

Yes, and it's one of the main reasons I stopped using TikTok. The FYP is the worst. If I'm not recommended homophobic content, then it's racism or transphobia with thousands of people cheering in the comments. I'm tired.

[Fruity]

19 minutes ago, duadududt said:

yes it is. I'm not saying we should blame LGBT people but I think we should have never normalized making self hate jokes so popular, especially on an app like tiktok, where people copy and paste what others say.. thinking they have a right to say the same things. transphobic and homophobic jokes, harassing any man who shows any kind of femininity (and I know atrl loves doing this as well) and more are some of the stuff I see on that app almost daily and it is worrying because we're going backwards.

Such an interesting point. It's almost like we got so comfortable with progress that we forgot to love and endorse ourselves as a community.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 26 by Fruity

[Virgos Groove]

Yes, tbh. It was bound to happen after years of Andrew Tate & Co. being shoved down everyone's throats by the algorithm.

 

15 minutes ago, duadududt said:

yes it is. I'm not saying we should blame LGBT people but I think we should have never normalized making self hate jokes so popular, especially on an app like tiktok, where people copy and paste what others say.. thinking they have a right to say the same things. transphobic and homophobic jokes, harassing any man who shows any kind of femininity (and I know atrl loves doing this as well) and more are some of the stuff I see on that app almost daily and it is worrying because we're going backwards.

This too. I remember thinking "huh, this is probably not gonna end well" when the "ironic" homophobia trend took off some 5+ years ago and feeling like it was only a matter of time before straight got too confortable.

[Virgos Groove]

There's also the fact that Gen Alpha and younger Gen Z'ers have no recollection of what society was like before queer rights were accepted (in Western societies). Remember that cringy-but-necessary "gay is okay/Same Love/it's okay to wear pink" phase? Yeah, we might need to do that all over again.

[godmess]

People got sick of lgbt narcissism, so this was bound to happen. 

[Pendulum]

this is a side effect from the radicalisation of gen X and gen alpha

[dumbsparce]

Who tf is this Andrew Tate person?

[Illuminati]

Yes and it's sick

[SapphireSky]

It's not exactly a suprise I saw this coming years ago

[Lil' Oz]

I think it's more about older generations "fight back" and less about Gen Z. According to studies nearly 40% of Gen Z Americans identify as LGBT+, and a lot older people feel threatened by the growing acceptance of queer people, so this is them trying to "fight back" as I have said before. 
 

Anyway, f*ck them

[shyboi]

Yes and it's getting scary 

[Mordecai]

The LGB are guilty by association because of the T and wouldn't be under such a microscope if it weren't for the current wave of trans rights that's going on (and no I'm not transphobic). Then you've got the current discourse on gender (which is ridiculous imo) and that just reflects badly on everybody

 

But these kids also need to go outside and touch some grass. Because I can't remember the last time I witnessed this be an actual issue for somebody in real life

Edited May 26 by Mordecai

[glitch]

When you make any kind of progress and a group becomes more accepted, the number of people who hate that group starts to shrink. Bigots can feel the walls closing in on them and are screaming as loud as possible to try and fight against it.

 

Like if you go back even 10-15 years ago, there were barely any LBGT characters on film and TV, so homophobes and transphobes had nothing to complain about. Now that representation is that much better, they're voicing the opinions they've been keeping quiet this whole time because now they feel threatened.

 

Also a lot of these tiktoks and the associated likes and comments are from children and teenagers who haven't grown up yet. It doesn't matter how far we come as a society, being "different" as a teenager will never be acceptable to the cool kids. Most people grow out of the over the top conformism by the time they reach adulthood.

Edited May 26 by glitch

[Headlock]

43 minutes ago, Mordecai said:

The LGB are guilty by association because of the T and

 

44 minutes ago, Mordecai said:

(and no I'm not transphobic).

[zweigson]

1 hour ago, Pendulum said:

this is a side effect from the radicalisation of gen X and gen alpha

i agree + who is the stunning queen in your avi? 

[HANZ94]

Controversial take but I think it got a lot worse after the Non Binary thing and when trans women wanted to compete in the same categories as biological women (sports and beauty) 

the world is fed up 

[Reginald]

I actually think I've seen less than before, but the only social media I use are Reddit and YouTube.

[glitch]

1 hour ago, Virgos Groove said:

There's also the fact that Gen Alpha and younger Gen Z'ers have no recollection of what society was like before queer rights were accepted (in Western societies). Remember that cringy-but-necessary "gay is okay/Same Love/it's okay to wear pink" phase? Yeah, we might need to do that all over again.

We need an updated version of this with Tate, Olivia or Sabrina!

 

"That's so boy wearing clothes 5 sizes too big for him"

 

Edited May 26 by glitch

[glitch]

4 minutes ago, Reginald said:

I actually think I've seen less than before, but the only social media I use are Reddit and YouTube.

It's interesting actually because back when I was on twitter I wasn't seeing anything like this until Elon took over. Then suddenly I was being shown so much right wing nonsense and tweets about topics I was completely opposed to. It's almost as if they started showing people tweets they knew they'd disagree with to provoke them into arguments to drive up engagement. I wonder if tiktok has started doing the same thing.

[shinyshimmery]

It's always been there. The Spanish/Mexican side of tiktok is so much worse. What's interesting though, is that social media has blurred reality indefinitely... like if you go out in the real world, support for LGBT people is not exactly thriving.

[JO1s]

Well the pushed content on twitter is mainly from right leaning people since they're more commonly purchasing blue check marks, that in combination of all social media algorithms trying to get engagement off of things that would make you mad. It's not the antiqueerness being more common either it's just that vocal minority being louder than ever because they're disappearing.

[Princess Aurora]

Not really. I remember back in 2018 when people Stan Twitter used the word that rhymes with cigarettes I think the situation has improved a lot compared to the early 2000s. Haters are gonna hate I guess. Also, Twitter is the new 4Chan so don't be surprised by the blatant homophobia and transphobia. Tiktok is from people all over the world so it also includes very conservative countries.

Edited May 26 by Princess Aurora