By the Water Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 4 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: 39 track album Vs Billie's 41 track album 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides Now Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 5 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: 39 track album With 3 good songs A 7.7% success rate 4 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 minute ago, By the Water said: Vs Billie's 41 track album You got me there 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Anyway I hope this finally motivates Billboard to just treat these as separate albums. Imagine 200 versions of TTPD charting at the same time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkoivan Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 36 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: They probably aren't aware that the actual limited editions were an entirely separate thing that contained additional collectible patches and stickers and stuff, and assumed that those exact same versions were the ones sent out to indie stores and/or Target, which would imply the possibility of false advertising and other issues on the original web listings of those limited editions. The vinyls are the exact same as the ones sent to record stores and target. She marketed them as limited and highlighted the bonus song to sell more. (Only to put all the bonus songs on streaming an hour after release). Only the CDs had a "collectors" edition. Target had their own 4 variants for the CDs bringing the total to 20 variants on release. Cassettes are the only truly limited item she produced because it's the most novelty of all the formats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbsparce Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 What is it with all these digital variants being exclusive to the artist's webstore? Does it mean they won't be on itunes? And why? I don't buy music bc I'm normal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YR. Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 The way it's literally giving Nicki Minaj 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YR. Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 This will definitely bring a rule change in billboard and i'm grateful for it 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DancingShoes Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Yeah Billboard should probably create some new rules cause some of this is ridiculous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatiRod Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 15 minutes ago, dumbsparce said: What is it with all these digital variants being exclusive to the artist's webstore? Does it mean they won't be on itunes? And why? I don't buy music bc I'm normal too. I'm guessing because all the $$$ goes directly to the label/artist (iTunes takes a cut) and it also makes it seem more exclusive? I'm sure there is someone in a marketing department who crunched some numbers and came up with this strategy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Iñakifan Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 It's honestly giving desperation by now, wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Shameless v2 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 I would love to see someone's iTunes library that actually keeps every download lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawnettakins Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Atp it'd be embarassing if TTPD didn't stay #1 with all the editions. Spoiler 1) standard 16-song digital download album 2) deluxe 31-song digital download album 3) standard 16-song digital download album + "The Black Dog" voice memo 4) standard 16-song digital download album + "Cassandra" voice memo 5) standard 16-song digital download album + "Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?" voice memo 6) standard 16-song digital download album + "loml" (Live From Paris) 7) standard 16-song digital download album +"My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys" (Live From Paris) 8) standard 16-song digital download album + "The Alchemy X Treacherous" (Live From Paris) 9) Standard CD + Bonus Track 'But Daddy I Love Him (Acoustic Version) • "The Manuscript" edition: 10) Standard CD, 11) deluxe CD containing Swift-branded merchandise, 12) ghosted white-colored vinyl, 13) Target-exclusive clear vinyl, 14) white-colored cassette 15) signed CD 16) signed vinyl • "The Albatross" edition: 17) CD 18) deluxe CD containing Swift-branded merchandise 19) smoke-colored vinyl 20) smoke-colored cassette • "The Bolter" edition: 21) CD 22) deluxe CD containing Swift-branded merchandise 23) beige-colored vinyl 24) beige-colored cassette • "The Black Dog" edition: 25) CD 26) deluxe CD containing Swift-branded merchandise 27) charcoal-colored vinyl 28) charcoal-colored cassette 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose My Breath Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 54 minutes ago, YR. said: This will definitely bring a rule change in billboard and i'm grateful for it I sure and the **** hope so. They should absolutely limit the amount of TOTAL purchases to 4, including all the variants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobynYoBank Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: I sure and the **** hope so. They should absolutely limit the amount of TOTAL purchases to 4, including all the variants Eh, I don't know. It's not like this is a new phenomenon. How many dozens upon dozens of variants have been issued of Abbey Road, Thriller, etc. over the years? Maybe not right at release like is en vogue nowadays, but the countless reissues and remasters... Edited May 23 by RobynYoBank 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lose My Breath Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: Eh, I don't know. It's not like this is a new phenomenon. How many dozens upon dozens of variants have been issued of Abbey Road, Thriller, etc. over the years? Maybe not right at release like is en vogue nowadays, but the countless reissues and remasters... It's being abused, seriously abused though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobynYoBank Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: It's being abused, seriously abused though True, but I also bet that all of the combined variants sold by all artists in the US amount to less than the first week sales of a big K-pop album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquiddiamonds Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, dumbsparce said: What is it with all these digital variants being exclusive to the artist's webstore? Does it mean they won't be on itunes? And why? I don't buy music bc I'm normal too. Because only stans buy straight from their websites, so they push these versions to the same people over and over (no shade to Taylor, since it's not only her). Casuals can wait for itunes, stores or even just stream a project first before committing to a purchase. They also won't purchase the same project over and over because of a small difference or just a song. That also keeps their pages clean on music services and does not confuse people in regards to what purchase. At the end of the day there will always be a final version with all of the tracks up on streaming… Edited May 24 by liquiddiamonds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowRibbon Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) https://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=341366&title= Well Edited May 24 by YellowRibbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 56 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: Eh, I don't know. It's not like this is a new phenomenon. How many dozens upon dozens of variants have been issued of Abbey Road, Thriller, etc. over the years? Maybe not right at release like is en vogue nowadays, but the countless reissues and remasters... How many? And how many only add one extra song being a live version? we're talking about the new digital albums. It IS a new phenomenon because sales have never been so low yet so overly weighted on the charts + chart data has never been so publicly accessible in real time like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobynYoBank Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: How many? And how many only add one extra song being a live version? we're talking about the new digital albums. It IS a new phenomenon because sales have never been so low yet so overly weighted on the charts + chart data has never been so publicly accessible in real time like this IIRC there are over 50 versions of Abbey Road and over 600 versions of Thriller. Most of them don't even have additional songs. Disagree about album sales being weighted that heavily. They account for minority of consumption and don't move the needle for most artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiliam Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Guys, lets celebrate the fact that this is the most interesting messy HDD thread we have in years. For a forum celebrate pop culture, we should celebrate this week. No matter the outcome, this is one for the history book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 16 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: IIRC there are over 50 versions of Abbey Road and over 600 versions of Thriller. Most of them don't even have additional songs. Disagree about album sales being weighted that heavily. They account for minority of consumption and don't move the needle for most artists. Okay then no, I don't think those sales should be counted because I doubt most of them are being listened to all the way through at least 1500 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gossip_Boy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 2 hours ago, YR. said: This will definitely bring a rule change in billboard and i'm grateful for it They intervened when people started abusing bundles and website sales so hopefully they'll do something about this as well because it's getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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