charts discussion HDD: Taylor #1 375k, Billie #2 329k

[Zari]

Just now, OnlyManInTheWorld said:

Billie played the game with 150 vinyls and lost. Why are y'all even trashing Taylor?

Because they can't stand it that their faves try the same tactics as Taylor but never get the same results 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Just now, PoisonedIvy said:

Is 4 weeks at #1 the ceiling for success now?  

It's not at all  

 

but taylor is purposely shipping out these multiple variants of her album in this particular week because a certain 22 year old female artist called out miss thang's poor mass produced vinyl practices. she wants to be #1 over her to "teach" her a lesson to not try it with her again. its clear as day and swifties admit this and take pride in it which is just too much

[Démodé]

1 minute ago, rivers said:

Can you really blame Taylor when it's the swifties that keep eating up everything she puts out? You should blame the consumer more than the creator. The capitalist queen outputs goods that are in demand  

Yes we can, cause she reinforces it, she wants it, she solidifies such parasocial behaviour. 

 

And dressed with a bit of pop white feminism, we have a perfect neoliberal narrative of success story. Vomit.

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, dumbsparce said:

How on earth is Taylor doing both more SEA and pure sales than Billie??

The album is more liked than ATRL wants us to believe 

 

 

[wastedpotential]

4 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

You know, it's actually pretty fun rooting for the villain of pop.

 

 

Or, the Anti-Hero, as it were. 

 

It's never a boring time. I'm curious what the ratio of BDILH CDs to signed CDs to digital VM sales was this week for TTPD, it could be insightful to learn if there are any more being held back 

 

[Zari]

Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said:

It's not at all  

 

but taylor is purposely shipping out these multiple variants of her album in this particular week because a certain 22 year old female artist called out miss thang's poor mass produced vinyl practices. she wants to be #1 over her to "teach" her a lesson to not try it with her again. its clear as day and swifties admit this and take pride in it which is just too much

Why wouldn't we take pride in it? Our fave works harder than ANYONE in the industry. She deserves to be rewarded accordingly. 

[RideOrDie]

Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said:

It's not at all  

 

but taylor is purposely shipping out these multiple variants of her album in this particular week because a certain 22 year old female artist called out miss thang's poor mass produced vinyl practices. she wants to be #1 over her to "teach" her a lesson to not try it with her again. its clear as day and swifties admit this and take pride in it which is just too much

i just don't understand why billie feels like she needs to pass judgement on fellow artists' business practices or how they choose to write their songs (as seen on the new zane lowe interview, which is easily another taylor shade)? taylor is not one to let stuff like that slide, she also doesn't say anything negative about anyone or how they handle their careers yet gets that **** from younger artists. talk **** get whacked 

[Raspberries]

2 minutes ago, Brikenbur said:

Receipts, quickly 

He dropped Views right after Lemonade on a last minute decision. Lemonade only got 1 week at #1 due to that

 

He dropped Her Loss right after Midnights

[hallucinate]

no but it's actually hilarious how offended she (and her cult) was over billie's statement

[PoisonedIvy]

2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

It's not at all  

 

but taylor is purposely shipping out these multiple variants of her album in this particular week because a certain 22 year old female artist called out miss thang's poor mass produced vinyl practices. she wants to be #1 over her to "teach" her a lesson to not try it with her again. its clear as day and swifties admit this and take pride in it which is just too much

Talk **** get hit, it's a common saying in the black community and it applies here 

 

 

[UnusualBoy]

Well, putting aside all this mess, it's nice to see good numbers for the top 2, especially with the hillbilly still in the top 3 wanting to return to #1.

[Marla Singer]

Ohhh this mid-off is getting good now.

[cruelhprince]

7 minutes ago, supaspaz said:

This is such a weird mentality of treating it like a sport rather than a reflection of what people are consuming in a week

well the most consumed album in pure sales and streaming units this week is the one and only The Tortured Poets Department

[ariesgroove]

idk why it's being seen as taylor slighting billie for that vinyl statement, it's taylor's team wanting to maintain the #1 streak for as long as possible; they're absolutely petty for attempting to take that from an artist, yes, and i still think billie will get it in the end, but i doubt taylor swift herself said "ship the vinyls"

 

billie has been extremely stable on streaming and we know she's one of the best pure sellers so i don't think it's gonna be particularly difficult to pass taylor

[Zari]

THOTS should move their focus to racist Morgan Wallen. He's the one that needs to be dealt with!

[Trent W]

I think Taylor is doing what she has to do

 

It's nasty and lowkey disgusting but this is how you achieve supremacy 

 

Olivia and Billie are a threat to her market, her and her team know this and she has been sabotaging both in the last few years

 

Taylor wants to be the biggest artist all time and these newer girls can steal her market easily at any moment so yeah.

 

I sadly understand what she's doing

 

 

[St. Charles]

What happened with the increase for TTPD? Did something change or was something rolled out?

[Hitchhiker]

The way there is no fighting back against this from Billie's side that won't make her a complete hypocrite she really set herself up 

[WildHeart]

40 minutes ago, Gaia said:

TTPD - 5.3k units per track

HMHAS - 14.3k units per track

 

 

But we are the ones who don't understand math?

First week average song units

TTPD - 21.6k

HAMAS - 14.3k

 

 

+PLUS 

On 11/25/2021 at 4:50 PM, Gaia said:

I honestly can't wait for her next release. If it opens with 600-800k with her plethora of versions then I can't wait to bump all these Swifties. 

Reality - 1.6M > 2.6M 

 

You don't indeed 

Edited May 21 by WildHeart

[family.guy123]

2 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

Talk **** get hit, it's a common saying in the black community and it applies here 

 

 

Yikes 

[TMRA]

LMAO i have to say i am living for the pettines. We stay entertained

[Da Vinci]

Cause baby now we got bad blood

You know it used to be mad love

 

 

[PoisonedIvy]

Just now, Trent W said:

I think Taylor is doing what she has to do

 

It's nasty and lowkey disgusting but this is how you achieve supremacy 

 

Olivia and Billie are a threat to her market, her and her team know this and she has been sabotaging both in the last few years

 

Taylor wants to be the biggest artist all time and these newer girls can steal her market easily at any moment so yeah.

 

I sadly understand what she's doing

 

 

Madonna was shading her contemporaries left and right in the 90s. Janet, Mariah, and Whitney had their retaliatory moments too. It's just the competitive nature of the industry, and it's a component of an ascent to the top. At the end of the day these minuscule footnotes in their careers aren't what they're remembered for, but the lasting legacy of their artistry & the numbers that back it up.

 

Plus it's entertaining as hell to witness in real time.  

[family.guy123]

2 minutes ago, cruelhprince said:

well the most consumed album in pure sales and streaming units this week is the one and only The Tortured Poets Department

How do you measure consumption of physical albums 

[bjorn]

Miss Eilish thought she'd be safe releasing 5 weeks after Taylor sis should have postponed a few months after