Popular Post Patient Zero Posted May 18 Popular Post Posted May 18 The Taylor and MJ comparisons are stupid. And an insult to MJ. MJ actually has iconic songs and iconic performances. He's a true artist who inspired many other artists. He was interesting. Taylor is an artist and product of her time, a time full of fake infulencers and chronically online fans who do anything to support their favorite artist for validation. That means buying 5842 versions of an album/single and streaming the whole day just to "support" their fave and boast about the sales they themselves achieved. Many artists' stardom get elevated by this fake inflation of actual nothingness. Taylors latest album is breaking all sorts of records. But what does it offer besides a bloat of Lana cosplay songs? It's a very popular product of actual nothingness and it won't have any impact on this industry. No matter how many versions these stans will buy or how many hours they will stream their fave, none of the current artists will reach the impact MJ, Madonna or The Beatles had or still have. 3 16 3
JT55331 Posted May 18 Posted May 18 honestly none of these tactics matter. Taylor can have the extra week at number 1. There are some fantastic albums that never hit number 1 and Billie will be fine. These most recent tactics by Swift and her team feel pointless to me, what does it truly matter if you have a 3 or 4 week number 1 album? It we are honest, the GP and swifts huge legacy will be defined by huge opening weeks, hit singles and deep cuts - not the weeks TTPD was number one. On a general note, the release of variants to skew charts - by any artist - truly sucks and invalidates charts as a whole… I wish Billboard would think about how to capture what is more authentically a hit album or song each week - and not who has managed to release the most variants
Headlock Posted May 18 Posted May 18 50 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: What does MJ the person have to do with taylor the artist? Apples and oranges. And as we know, t Alison swift the person isn't exactly an angel either Now I KNOW you are not claiming any dumbass stan rival feud even remotely compares to the sexual abuse of children
dirrtydiana Posted May 18 Posted May 18 6 minutes ago, Headlock said: Now I KNOW you are not claiming any dumbass stan rival feud even remotely compares to the sexual abuse of children I wasn't there and the fbi never found anything proving he was guilty. Unfortunately there's nothing I can do if he in fact was not innocent and no, I'm literally talking about ART and ARTISTS, not meaningless trophies and charts. help me understand what's not clicking 1
spree Posted May 18 Posted May 18 41 minutes ago, Patient Zero said: The Taylor and MJ comparisons are stupid. And an insult to MJ. MJ actually has iconic songs and iconic performances. He's a true artist who inspired many other artists. He was interesting. Taylor is an artist and product of her time, a time full of fake infulencers and chronically online fans who do anything to support their favorite artist for validation. That means buying 5842 versions of an album/single and streaming the whole day just to "support" their fave and boast about the sales they themselves achieved. Many artists' stardom get elevated by this fake inflation of actual nothingness. Taylors latest album is breaking all sorts of records. But what does it offer besides a bloat of Lana cosplay songs? It's a very popular product of actual nothingness and it won't have any impact on this industry. No matter how many versions these stans will buy or how many hours they will stream their fave, none of the current artists will reach the impact MJ, Madonna or The Beatles had or still have. Bu-u-u-u-ttt Taylor has Cruel Summer and Shake it Off!! Those have got to be up there with Thriller and Billie Jean, right? 7
Headlock Posted May 18 Posted May 18 28 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said: I wasn't there and the fbi never found anything proving he was guilty. help me understand what's not clicking Y'all really are lost causes
Shelter Posted May 18 Posted May 18 32 pages of mess Stop comparing Tay to an iconic artist like MJ, like come on. 3 1
YellowRibbon Posted May 18 Posted May 18 If #that announcement happens tomorrow or during this week, things will get interesting because there are at least 2 songs linked to it on TTPD The streaming boost would be nice 1
dirrtydiana Posted May 18 Posted May 18 4 minutes ago, Headlock said: Y'all really are lost causes Because I'm posting facts? There's literally no evidence of what you're accusing him of. If he did have victims there's nothing I can do to change those horrific actions. and again, what he did as a person has nothing to do with the art he made history with or this thread. It's two separate things 1
Redstreak Posted May 18 Posted May 18 26 minutes ago, spree said: Bu-u-u-u-ttt Taylor has Cruel Summer and Shake it Off!! Those have got to be up there with Thriller and Billie Jean, right? And Love Story and YBWM and Blank Space which are infinitely better, not to mention the whole month of August 6 4
The Music Industry Posted May 18 Posted May 18 1 hour ago, Patient Zero said: The Taylor and MJ comparisons are stupid. And an insult to MJ. MJ actually has iconic songs and iconic performances. That's cute that you personally feel like that MJ is more "iconic!1!!1" but it doesn't the fact that if Taylor continues on this trajectory, she will outsell him and end up the most successful solo artist. 4 1 2 3
Patient Zero Posted May 18 Posted May 18 4 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: That's cute that you personally feel like that MJ is more "iconic!1!!1" but it doesn't the fact that if Taylor continues on this trajectory, she will outsell him and end up the most successful solo artist. Good for her, becoming the first iconic artist with no iconic songs or iconic performances. Just great sales. Look at the best selling songs of last decade. Which of them will stand the test of time, or are actually good?? Not many. 1 3 1 4
The Music Industry Posted May 18 Posted May 18 4 minutes ago, Patient Zero said: Good for her, becoming the first iconic artist with no iconic songs or iconic performances. Just great sales. To you, maybe but saying this is a general statement is just laughable. Taylor is quite literally performing for what is widely considered - by both critics and the general public - one of the most iconic tours of all time. Y'all have lost the "iconic performances!" argument right then and there 3 2
penguintim Posted May 18 Posted May 18 25 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: If #that announcement happens tomorrow or during this week, things will get interesting because there are at least 2 songs linked to it on TTPD The streaming boost would be nice #that ?
dirrtydiana Posted May 18 Posted May 18 21 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: That's cute that you personally feel like that MJ is more "iconic!1!!1" but it doesn't the fact that if Taylor continues on this trajectory, she will outsell him and end up the most successful solo artist. her numbers will always have a huge asterisk next to them as she's nowhere near actual legends' levels without the streaming era and countless variants. She's the drake of our time 1 1 1
Patient Zero Posted May 18 Posted May 18 2 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: To you, maybe but saying this is a general statement is just laughable. Taylor is quite literally performing for what is widely considered - by both critics and the general public - one of the most iconic tours of all time. Y'all have lost the "iconic performances!" argument right then and there I'm sorry, but I'm not falling for this. There's nothing iconic about her. She can't sing, she can't dance. She can't perform. The biggest budgets and the nicest gowns won't save her for what she actually serves-absolutely nothing. She's as basic as a door handle. But being basic is her biggest strenght, because this ways many girlies are able to relate to her. I'd say she should continue being basic because it's very successful for her. 8 5
spree Posted May 18 Posted May 18 9 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: To you, maybe but saying this is a general statement is just laughable. Taylor is quite literally performing for what is widely considered - by both critics and the general public - one of the most iconic tours of all time. Y'all have lost the "iconic performances!" argument right then and there ok well post one of her "iconic performances" from the Eras Tour and I'll see for myself. I'll be waiting with baited breath. 2 2
spree Posted May 18 Posted May 18 5 minutes ago, Patient Zero said: I'm sorry, but I'm not falling for this. There's nothing iconic about her. She can't sing, she can't dance. She can't perform. The biggest budgets and the nicest gowns won't save her for what she actually serves-absolutely nothing. She's as basic as a door handle. But being basic is her biggest strenght, because this ways many girlies are able to relate to her. I'd say she should continue being basic because it's very successful for her. I really love this. Sums her up 100%.
TaggedGalaxy Posted May 18 Posted May 18 (edited) Ya'll are really still in here mad I wonder what it's like to let a pop star affect your mental health so much that it's all you can think about, I'm glad I don't know Edited May 18 by TaggedGalaxy 3
ATRL Moderator Element Posted May 19 ATRL Moderator Posted May 19 This has been one of the most egregiously stupid threads that I've seen all year. We received many reports today and unluckily for you all, I had time tonight to go through all 33 pages and warn even more of them. If you contributed to the incessant derailing of the topic, then don't be surprised if you log on to a WP or two. I am not reopening this thread because clearly some of you can't self-regulate with a keyboard in front of you. Go outside and get some fresh air, I beg you. Stream Chihiro (and Cruel Summer so she stays on the Hot 100) while you're at it. tysm 1 2
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