Blackout2006 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 24 minutes ago, kyoshi said: Saying and doing are two different things. I'll be waiting for ONE standard BLACK vinyl pressing for her next release kay, wait for it
Walk_Away21 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 4 hours ago, Aethereal said: What a narcissistic capitalist. Remember it was only during streaming she started released 10 albums a year with +30 tracks. She never made an album with 30 song or 25 when people had to buy them in 2000s and 2010s because it was not convenient for charts. So glad Adele's record remains untouched. Try 40 songs next time. Too bad I don't think she will pull 2.6M again. I seriously hope you are a teenager because your post is giving brain not fully formed. Nobody is forcing people to buy, stream, listen, attend, etc Taylor Swift anything. If you are broke, you can access 99% of her music with just a simple music streaming subscription like every other artist. And with some bonus tracks like Target, they eventually come to streaming which is definitely not true for other artists' Target tracks. Some of those are locked on CDs to this day. Please touch grass and work on your education. Nothing you posted makes any sense.
Aethereal Posted May 17 Posted May 17 1 minute ago, Walk_Away21 said: I seriously hope you are a teenager because your post is giving brain not fully formed. Nobody is forcing people to buy, stream, listen, attend, etc Taylor Swift anything. If you are broke, you can access 99% of her music with just a simple music streaming subscription like every other artist. And with some bonus tracks like Target, they eventually come to streaming which is definitely not true for other artists' Target tracks. Some of those are locked on CDs to this day. Please touch grass and work on your education. Nothing you posted makes any sense. With more tracks and versions she accumulates more units, especially in the first week. She has released from October of 2022 till now 2 studio albums and several rerecording while being in a world tour instead of just waiting some time to release her next album like she typically does because she wants to capitalize her peak at the maximum in order to break Adele's record and other related stuff. 2
kyoshi Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Just now, Blackout2006 said: kay, wait for it since she ain't a hypocrite as you claim, her next move gotta be that or else..
Walk_Away21 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 2 minutes ago, Aethereal said: With more tracks and versions she accumulates more units, especially in the first week. She has released from October of 2022 till now 2 studio albums and several rerecording while being in a world tour instead of just waiting some time to release her next album like she typically does because she wants to capitalize her peak at the maximum in order to break Adele's record and other related stuff. My point is nobody is forced or obligated to listen. Too many songs? Don't listen. You like only 10 songs of the 31? Make a playlist. You don't have to buy or stream anything.
Aethereal Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Just now, Walk_Away21 said: My point is nobody is forced or obligated to listen. Too many songs? Don't listen. You like only 10 songs of the 31? Make a playlist. You don't have to buy or stream anything. Nobody said I am forced to do anything but what I implied is it shows her narcissism and obsession with chart success. 2 1
Gaia Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) 11 minutes ago, kyoshi said: since she ain't a hypocrite as you claim, her next move gotta be that or else.. This is such a dumb argument if I've ever seen one and Swifties are truly brain dead to keep using it. When you go to buy a new phone what do you see? COLORS to choose from! Why? Because you may prefer a specific color! Does Apple, Samsung, etc. Expect you to buy a phone in every color iteration you like? NO! Why? Because the color of the phone has NO IMPACT ON THE USAGE OF THE PHONE! And?! People understand it would be stupid to buy multiple copies of the same thing just because of the color when the color has no impact on the product. Especially when they are almost always covered by phone cases regardless so you can hardly ever see the coloring! HOWEVER! You know what does have an impact on a products usage? Variations with DIFFERENT products! Like what? Different track lists on variants! Hopefully that was explained simple enough! Edited May 17 by Gaia 3 9 1
Raava Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) Men release songs tearing each other apart and they call it art. Women release album variants within the same week and they call it war. Edited May 17 by Raava 2
Blackout2006 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) 23 minutes ago, kyoshi said: since she ain't a hypocrite as you claim, her next move gotta be that or else.. Billie? Yea, the 15 variants may come off as distasteful but there is no intense movement within the fandom (Billie's) to buy the same albums in multiple variants as there is amongst Swifties. Edited May 17 by Blackout2006
Blackout2006 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 11 minutes ago, Gaia said: This is such a dumb argument if I've ever seen one and Swifties are truly brain dead to keep using it. When you go to buy a new phone what do you see? COLORS to choose from! Why? Because you may prefer a specific color! Does Apple, Samsung, etc. Expect you to buy a phone in every color iteration you like? NO! Why? Because the color of the phone has NO IMPACT ON THE USAGE OF THE PHONE! And?! People understand it would be stupid to buy multiple copies of the same thing just because of the color when the color has no impact on the product. Especially when they are almost always covered by phone cases regardless so you can hardly ever see the coloring! HOWEVER! You know what does have an impact on a products usage? Variations with DIFFERENT products! Like what? Different track lists on variants! Hopefully that was explained simple enough!
Isaiah Posted May 17 Posted May 17 2 hours ago, Blackout2006 said: So…they decided to release the three variants the very week Taylor's position is threatened for the first time? Do the math dude, you just said it yourself Yes, because they want to maximize her weeks at #1 therefore they're pulling tricks now that the #1 streak is being threatened… which is quite-literally what my post said Re-read my post and get back to me I genuinely don't think this has anything to do with Billie "shading" her nor is this some revenge ploy. I think her team just want her to stay #1 as long as she can, and Billie's release is just coincidentally in the collateral of that.
Isaiah Posted May 17 Posted May 17 29 minutes ago, Aethereal said: Nobody said I am forced to do anything but what I implied is it shows her narcissism and obsession with chart success. Literally every mainstream artist/celebrity has a degree of narcissism within them, it's kinda part of the whole wanting-to-be-famous thing in the first place
Gladiator Posted May 17 Posted May 17 20 minutes ago, Raava said: Men release songs tearing each other apart and they call it art. Women release album variants within the same week and they call it war. That's because pop fans treat women in pop the same way sports fans treat men in sports. 1
Blackout2006 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 4 minutes ago, Isaiah said: Yes, because they want to maximize her weeks at #1 therefore they're pulling tricks now that the #1 streak is being threatened… which is quite-literally what my post said Re-read my post and get back to me I genuinely don't think this has anything to do with Billie "shading" her nor is this some revenge ploy. I think her team just want her to stay #1 as long as she can, and Billie's release is just coincidentally in the collateral of that. That's the thing again, Taylor wants to keep the streak going and she has pulled this move conveniently to block Billie (which is factually not going to happen lol). I don't think it's a revenge ploy either, it's just Taylor being business savvy but her dropping variants was definitely calculated
kyoshi Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) Just now, Gaia said: This is such a dumb argument if I've ever seen one and Swifties are truly brain dead to keep using it. When you go to buy a new phone what do you see? COLORS to choose from! Why? Because you may prefer a specific color! Does Apple, Samsung, etc. Expect you to buy a phone in every color iteration you like? NO! Why? Because the color of the phone has NO IMPACT ON THE USAGE OF THE PHONE! And?! People understand it would be stupid to buy multiple copies of the same thing just because of the color when the color has no impact on the product. Especially when they are almost always covered by phone cases regardless so you can hardly ever see the coloring! HOWEVER! You know what does have an impact on a products usage? Variations with DIFFERENT products! Like what? Different track lists on variants! Hopefully that was explained simple enough! This is grade A copium, if she is so against WASTE then the logical thing to do is to just press ONE edition with ONE color design so the standard black vinyl... She is doing the exact same thing she's speaking out against about. And we are not even mentioning how she likes to WASTE paint by splattering it on the vinyl how is that saving resources??? Explain quickly... Just now, Blackout2006 said: Billie? Yea, the 15 variants may come off as distasteful but there is no intense movement within the fandom (Billie's) to buy the same albums in multiple variants as there is amongst Swifties. Right...that's why she made a secret box kinda thing with her previous album lmaooo yall couldn't even choose the color yall wanted it was random, the only way to ensure a certain color was to buy more than one copy Edited May 17 by kyoshi
Into The Void Posted May 17 Posted May 17 12 hours ago, istan4badgalriri said: Like... you can't be worshipping that woman and not be brainwashed lmao Their actions prove it. Tayjuice or something idk what they are on
Blackout2006 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 (edited) 18 minutes ago, kyoshi said: Right...that's why she made a secret box kinda thing with her previous album lmaooo yall couldn't even choose the color yall wanted it was random, the only way to ensure a certain color was to buy more than one copy Oh that's not… Ordering the secret box is for fans who are fine with any variant. If they wanted one variant in particular, they would just order the variant directly from the website- Edited May 17 by Blackout2006
kyoshi Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Just now, Blackout2006 said: Oh that's not… Ordering the secret box is for fans who are fine with any variant. If they wanted one variant in particular, they would just order the variant directly from the website- That's not what they said in r/vinyl and it was a billie fan who said it, weird they would lie about that I remember they said they had to buy one "secret" copy + the color variant they wanted, they didn't get to buy just one vinyl
Capris Groove Posted May 17 Posted May 17 I'd wager that this album cycle is the moment where she 'jumped the shark', as far as overexposure goes. People are getting fatigued by this. She'll keep her gargantuan fanbase of course but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a drop in commercial success next time around. I'm betting this is her peak. 3 1
Feanor Posted May 17 Posted May 17 Almost 30 pages over 3 digital editions that won't sell more than 10k copies each and are no threat to Billie's #1 debut. This forum surely is bothered by everything Taylor does. 1
Blackout2006 Posted May 17 Posted May 17 10 minutes ago, kyoshi said: That's not what they said in r/vinyl and it was a billie fan who said it, weird they would lie about that I remember they said they had to buy one "secret" copy + the color variant they wanted, they didn't get to buy just one vinyl Okay so an anecdotal and isolated scenario.
Capris Groove Posted May 17 Posted May 17 22 hours ago, MidnightsAtPeace said: Taylor always supports all artists, especially newer artists. And then all of a sudden, some of them get brave and shade her for no reason, when she's been nothing but loving and supportive. No but this is exactly it, she has a fixed idea of how to treat people, and if they don't agree with it 100%, the wolf comes out. She can't fathom that anyone would have a different view. It's properly narcissistic. It's the same reason she's 35 years old and all of her relationships have failed. 11 3 6
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