Daglazzo Posted May 15 Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: what the heck did she do to u girl? Existing 1
Badgalbriel Posted May 15 Posted May 15 10 minutes ago, charot said: That's what we call impact, babe Everyone knows Lady Gaga and her hits. The fandriven hits by a certain artist can't relate https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMMcRo9Dj/ Girl, there are videos of babies singing songs by any artist. It's all up to whatever the parents play for that kid.
WildHeart Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Shimenawa said: Taylor has only numbers If only she could have 4 AOTY wins and 7 universally acclaimed albums like Gaga 3
Shimenawa Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Just now, WildHeart said: If only she could have 4 AOTY wins and 7 universally acclaimed albums like Gaga We are talking about peaks, not overall career. I don't think everyone can name a Tay song. Gaga was unescapable with her early hits.
jonapova Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I would have to say no. Gaga was talked about by everyone including the straights. Taylor is only talked about by the media due to her sales, the gp don't really know her 2
byzantium Posted May 15 Posted May 15 No, Gaga's peak was not as culturally relevant at the time. The gays on this site are just remembering the past through their own bias.
Eternal220 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I mean just Taylor's Eras tour 60 US dates outgrossing gaga's entire career pretty much sums it all? Sold a million albums on the first week multiple times organically without an * attached to it. She will end up as one of the biggest legends in music. 1
lonnie Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) If you had asked me this question about 3/4 years ago I would have laughed in your face, but currently (and since Midnight) it's safe to say Taylor is probably the biggest mainstream cultural phenomenon since Britney. Her relevance shows in different ways than Gaga's: whereas Gaga's was more media frenzy with her outfits and visuals and overall persona, Taylor's mostly manifests as a great mass of fan support. Just looking at Taylor's recent tour shows this. It makes Gaga's more exciting since there was actual creativity in her peak years, while there's really nothing spectacular about Taylor's overall presence other than the success numbers. Edited May 15 by lonnie
burninredhot Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) As someone who was in elementary school during Gaga's peak (2010) I really don't remember anyone talking about her to me probably cuz my country is not that that influenced by American Culture but I did know Love Story cuz one of my cousins played it for me Now I know this is just an irrelevant anecdote in the bigger picture but this is exactly how the arguments that LMs are putting forward in this thread sound Edited May 15 by burninredhot 4 1
Don Posted May 15 Posted May 15 gaga fans are really something else …. I have never seen a fandom this delusional 1 4
Pinkbutterflies Posted May 15 Posted May 15 31 minutes ago, Shimenawa said: We are talking about peaks, not overall career. I don't think everyone can name a Tay song. Gaga was unescapable with her early hits. True. Gaga had way more iconic hits that transcend different demographics. You could hear her in the club, stores and even weddings -- she was everywhere. Taylor is impactful but tbh, most people can recognise one or two songs from her -- WANNGBT and love story 2 1 2
Dante Silva Posted May 15 Posted May 15 No. Taylor appeals to a wide demographic of people and has made a lot of money but she has never been on the edge of fashion or music trends. Having followed Madonna from the start, a lot of female solo artists came and went in the decades between Madonna and Gaga. Until Gaga, no other female artist felt anywhere close to occupying that very specific 'alpha' female space in pop culture (and they did try). Taylor has never been a fashionista, nor has she ever embraced the Dance floor, she has always been mindful of never alienating the conservative U.S. with her wardrobe and lifestyle choices. She has a song called "Lavender Haze" in which she sings about "the 1950's **** they want from me" which clarifies she has an awareness of the restrictions and limits of what the conservative portion of her audience find acceptable from her and it won't be until she demonstrates she has the strength of character to break away from those restrictions placed upon her and emancipates herself from them that she will prove she has what it truly takes to be a legend. I'm not sure she has the capacity though. During her early career she was influenced by Faith Hill and over the years has simply swopped that influence out with Lana Del Rey. 3
DevilsRollTheDice Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I will be a Little Monster Forever and Always.mp3 and Gaga was my first experience with stan culture, but come on Taylor is being compared by global media to Beatlemania and Michael Jackson. She's breaking records that have stood the test of time since the 1960s. Gaga's peak was massive, but it's unfair to compare anyone to Taylor's current run, ESPECIALLY given the context of the industry.
SylMacPer Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I'm not sure what Gaga's peak was assumed to be by the ATRL gays, but let me tell you this... it was all in your head!
Human Fly Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Lady Gaga was on the global newspapers for 3 years straight every single day. Combined with never ending singles including non stop back to back radio #1s around the world + never ending Tours for 3 years. And for Taylor i only hear from people saying "why people even like her, she's too basic" I'm sorry but she can never be a Gaga. She was literally walking legend even her walking from airport to her hotel pictures were on the daily newspapers back then. 5 4
JO1s Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Gaga benifits from the monoculture and nostalgia. Taylor's peak is way bigger. 1 3
RandomHooker Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Gaga sweetie... Tayble inflated numbers are only fuelled by rabid fans who mass buy her albums. People, especially white females and younger generations flock to her concerts because she's palatable and is safe. She has no impact outside of than, not even the remembered music. All inflated and skewed. 2 1 5
WildHeart Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RandomHooker said: Tayble inflated numbers are only fuelled by rabid fans Coming from * stans, keep projecting Edited May 15 by WildHeart 1
Riverbank Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Taylor's peak clearly blows Gaga's out of the water (and numbers back this up), but leave it to ATRL to stay clinging onto vibes and meat dresses 1 1
LOTF Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 hours ago, Dante Silva said: No. Taylor appeals to a wide demographic of people and has made a lot of money but she has never been on the edge of fashion or music trends. Having followed Madonna from the start, a lot of female solo artists came and went in the decades between Madonna and Gaga. Until Gaga, no other female artist felt anywhere close to occupying that very specific 'alpha' female space in pop culture (and they did try). Taylor has never been a fashionista, nor has she ever embraced the Dance floor, she has always been mindful of never alienating the conservative U.S. with her wardrobe and lifestyle choices. She has a song called "Lavender Haze" in which she sings about "the 1950's **** they want from me" which clarifies she has an awareness of the restrictions and limits of what the conservative portion of her audience find acceptable from her and it won't be until she demonstrates she has the strength of character to break away from those restrictions placed upon her and emancipates herself from them that she will prove she has what it truly takes to be a legend. I'm not sure she has the capacity though. During her early career she was influenced by Faith Hill and over the years has simply swopped that influence out with Lana Del Rey. Very interesting and insightful analysis, sis 1
Eternal220 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Human Fly said: Lady Gaga was on the global newspapers for 3 years straight every single day. Combined with never ending singles including non stop back to back radio #1s around the world + never ending Tours for 3 years. And for Taylor i only hear from people saying "why people even like her, she's too basic" I'm sorry but she can never be a Gaga. She was literally walking legend even her walking from airport to her hotel pictures were on the daily newspapers back then. ??? What walking legend peaks with their first album though.
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