Mister Gaga Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, TeemoR said: Are you saying all queer people in Palestine are dead? A true genocide wow. I think she is not 'publicly' supporting the other groups you mentioned because they are not committing a genocide as we are speaking. She can't be vocal about every single group and incident happening around us. unfortunately, they might be, thanks to Hamas. I understand Sasha chooses her battles: being so articulate and aware must be very sufoccating, as she remained silent for LGBTQ rights violations by terrorist organizations in Arab countries. It's good that, finally, she's raising her voice for something, i guess. 1 9
TeemoR Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, Mister Gaga said: unfortunately, they might be, thanks to Hamas. I understand Sasha chooses her battles: being so articulate and aware must be very sufoccating, as she remained silent for LGBTQ rights violations by terrorist organizations in Arab countries. It's good that, finally, she's raising her voice for something, i guess. For the most evil group, Israel. I applaud her as well. I don't think Hamas was the one killing 40,000 people by the way.
Mister Gaga Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, TeemoR said: For the most evil group, Israel. I applaud her as well. I don't think Hamas was the one killing 40,000 people by the way. applaud all you want. but be real fast at it. the moment Hamas/hezbollah takes over, you will loose your hands - rights, economy, freedom, family - before clapping. 8
Mister Gaga Posted May 12 Posted May 12 15 minutes ago, Communion said: There is no "regime" in Palestine 6
Mister Gaga Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, TeemoR said: I don't think Hamas was the one killing 40,000 people by the way you'd be surprised at how many people got killed by the terrorist organizations she's defending. lets start with something soft: siria's civil war, with hezbollah on it's roots, gave us 2 million corpses 7
PoisonPill Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Who's gonna tell her that Israel gives asylum to queer Palestinians fleeing from persecution? 1 9
Mister Gaga Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Just now, PoisonPill said: Who's gonna tell her that Israel gives asylum to queer Palestinians fleeing from persecution? in this situation's context, she's not interested in queer people. i understand. she'll rather maintain her career, priviliges and most importantly, her life, than going against the alt left pro terrorist movement that, sooner than later, will be executed by their own idols (hamas and hezbollah) 8
ICLDXU4HS Posted May 12 Posted May 12 50 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: defending palestine 47 minutes ago, Great808 said: DEFENDING Palestine?!!! The dead giveaway in this odd ass phrasing. 2 5
Both Sides Now Posted May 12 Posted May 12 49 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: Do queer palestinians exist? Honest question. Do they stand a chance against their own culture/government/laws? The irony of them (if they're still alive, ofc) being safer in israel Drag queens defending palestine, meanwhile, doing gigs on the gayest city on earth, aka Tel Aviv. My god, the joke tells itself. There was a queer Palestinian living in Palestine on this very forum before the mods banned him. He didn't like Israel and hijacking his queer identity as a propaganda piece for Israel is disgusting. If you estimate 10% of a population as being queer then Israel has killed thousands of queers in Gaza since October 7th. We will never know what kind of community they could have built. 2 5
Communion Posted May 12 Author Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: . Please answer the question: 22 minutes ago, Communion said: And even now, Israel's twitter account regularly refers to groups like Fatah as "terrorists too" so... who should lead Palestine if not just Hamas are terrorists but also Fatah? Are ALL Palestinians terrorists? Even the queers? Context: Marwan Barghouti is referred to as the Nelson Mandela of Palestinian politics. The above is a shell company masking as a non-profit and run off Israeli government dollars, referring to him as a terrorist. Is everyone a terrorist? 1
Mister Gaga Posted May 12 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, Both Sides Now said: We will never know what kind of community they could have built. None, as they weren't able (nobody would be) to do it with a terrorist organization that allows and promotes LGBT people being stoned to death 1 8
TeemoR Posted May 12 Posted May 12 13 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: you'd be surprised at how many people got killed by the terrorist organizations she's defending. lets start with something soft: siria's civil war, with hezbollah on it's roots, gave us 2 million corpses Because that's what destroyed Syria...not America...Hezbollah. You are attacking terrorist organizations that are literally rooting from America (or Israel, they are kind of the same). 1
TeemoR Posted May 12 Posted May 12 12 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: in this situation's context, she's not interested in queer people. i understand. she'll rather maintain her career, priviliges and most importantly, her life, than going against the alt left pro terrorist movement that, sooner than later, will be executed by their own idols (hamas and hezbollah) How is she maintaining her career by supporting an 'alt left pro terrorist movement'?
Communion Posted May 12 Author Posted May 12 Also, to get back to Sasha's criticism, the ADL harms their reputation and the sanctity of hate crime statistics by including pro-Palestine protests in their count of "antisemitic hate crimes". For as long as the ADL conflates anti-Zionism for antisemitism, they are not a reputable organization wrt to hate crimes and GLAAD damages themselves working with them. 2 1
Great808 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Ms Mister Gaga spitting facts left and RIGHT yes ma'am clear 'em! 1 7
Mister Gaga Posted May 13 Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, TeemoR said: How is she maintaining her career by supporting an 'alt left pro terrorist movement'? she cannot bite the hand that feeds her. while, clearly, not every LGBT person is part of this suicidal pro hamas/hezbollah movement, there's certainly a big percentage of it who stands and defends this group's action (with infinite stupidity, given that their freedom of speech is contrary to hamas/hezbollah's principles). Speaking negatively about them (not even in favour of israel) would get her inmediatly cancelled. But it's no secrecy neither surprise: lots of people took the wrong, and popular, side of history, out of fear of an ignorant mob. Hitler was, as Hamas, democractically ellected under shitty circumstances. We all know the story. While palestinian population continues to grow dramatically (what a curious genocide), as well as the arab population (even inside of israel, where they have a voice on congress, same rights as every individual and a political party), we all know what happenned to the jewish population. Well, Sasha may not know it. Might be too busy standing up for an Irak-financed terrorist organization that exploded a bomb 23 years ago on her own country. Edited May 13 by Mister Gaga 6
Peroxide Posted May 13 Posted May 13 Anyone defending the actions of the IDF needs to take a good long look in the mirror… Downplaying the killing of ten of thousands of people - 70% being women and children is indefensible. Okay, so Israel is more progressive when it comes to LGBTQ+ rights compared to its neighbouring territories - that doesn't give them a pass to commit literal genocide. It's utterly deplorable factions of our community are using this as some kind of justification. Makes me sick… 4 6
Mister Gaga Posted May 13 Posted May 13 2 hours ago, Communion said: And even now, Israel's twitter account regularly refers to groups like Fatah as "terrorists too" so... who should lead Palestine if not just Hamas are terrorists but also Fatah? Are ALL Palestinians terrorists? Even the queers? Fatah's lider, Marwan Barghouti, is a widely known and condemned terrorist BY ALL THE ARAB LEAGUE (all of it) in 2017. I do not think that Palestinians are terrorists at all, a gigantic portion of them wish to live in peace. Unfortunately, under a huge and internal oppresive media fence, he's a popular figure among the population. Wouldn't be the first, certainly not the last time, that the wrong guy gets elected, thanks to a mad-driven population, desperate for hope and for a better life. Power oftently relies on the bad guy's hands. Yes, he is, indeed, a terrorist. And there's not a single soul in palestine who recognizes the term queer. Palestinian regime punishes LGBT 'behaviour' with inmediate execution. 6
Mister Gaga Posted May 13 Posted May 13 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Peroxide said: Anyone defending the actions of the IDF needs to take a good long look in the mirror… Downplaying the killing of ten of thousands of people - 70% being women and children is indefensible. Okay, so Israel is more progressive when it comes to LGBTQ+ rights compared to its neighbouring territories - that doesn't give them a pass to commit literal genocide. It's utterly deplorable factions of our community are using this as some kind of justification. Makes me sick… 'more proressive' lol. it's the only place on all middle east where lgbt people can live. genocide stands for the crime of destroying a national/ethnic/racial or religious group, and none of that represent the tragedy of this war. the idea of a palestinian state, with it's population and it's different ethnic, racial and religious groups has been PROPOSED by israel and REJECTED by the palestinian regime. there's no a single variant (not now, not never) in palestine's population that is decreasing, on the contrary, population is growing exponentially (even with the horrible deaths of thousands of palestines in Gaza, many of them, executed by their own regime and defficient army). their religion is certainly expanding. however, i can think of one nation and religious group who, over the course of history, has been decimated and executed over and over and over again. can you guess who that is? Edited May 13 by Mister Gaga 7
TeemoR Posted May 13 Posted May 13 24 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: she cannot bite the hand that feeds her. while, clearly, not every LGBT person is part of this suicidal pro hamas/hezbollah movement, there's certainly a big percentage of it who stands and defends this group's action (with infinite stupidity, given that their freedom of speech is contrary to hamas/hezbollah's principles). Speaking negatively about them (not even in favour of israel) would get her inmediatly cancelled. But it's no secrecy neither surprise: lots of people took the wrong, and popular, side of history, out of fear of an ignorant mob. Hitler was, as Hamas, democractically ellected under shitty circumstances. We all know the story. While palestinian population continues to grow dramatically (what a curious genocide), as well as the arab population (even inside of israel, where they have a voice on congress, same rights as every individual and a political party), we all know what happenned to the jewish population. Well, Sasha may not know it. Might be too busy standing up for an Irak-financed terrorist organization that exploded a bomb 23 years ago on her own country. This doesn't make any sense, that a big proportion of the LGBT community is 'infinitely stupid'. We are not supporting hamas or hezbollah, just not approving Zionism. Also, 'Hitler' is closer to Netanjahu, not Hamas. Which is why (well, one of the many reasons) we are against Israel. Lastly, in terms of whoo finances these organizations and who doesn't....America is ALWAYS the common denominator. 2
TeemoR Posted May 13 Posted May 13 1 minute ago, Mister Gaga said: 'more proressive' lol. it's the only place on all middle east where lgbt people can live. genocide stands for the crime of destroying a national/ethnic/racial or religious group, and none of that represent the tragedy of this war. the idea of a palestinian state, with it's population and it's different ethnic, racial and religious groups has been PROPOSED by israel and REJECTED by the palestinian regime. there's no a single variant (not now, not never) in palestine's population that is decreasing, on the contrary, population is growing exponentially. their religion is certainly expanding. however, i can think of one nation and religious group who, over the course of history, has been decimated and executed over and over and over again. can you guess who that is? We have been through this so many times and it's simply not true or just extremely in favor of Israel and not making any sense for Palestine to accept. And it's really sad what Jewish people have been through years. It's also sad what they are going through currently with having such an evil representation, Israel. Many Jews are not accepting Israel's genocidal acts and are on the right side of history 3
Mister Gaga Posted May 13 Posted May 13 1 minute ago, TeemoR said: This doesn't make any sense, that a big proportion of the LGBT community is 'infinitely stupid'. why not? why would LGBT people - which i'm part of - be excluded from the common denominator of human race, which is stupidity? does being gay makes you aware or something? I spoke about this issue because a big part of the pro terrorist advocants come from the LGBT community, which is the ultimate joke. 4 minutes ago, TeemoR said: Also, 'Hitler' is closer to Netanjahu, not Hamas. Which is why (well, one of the many reasons) we are against Israel. If you are capable enough to compare hitler to netanjahu, you should be able to recognize him as a NAZI, not as the leader of the german population. "i hate netanjahu = i hate israel" is what you are saying right there. 1 5
Mister Gaga Posted May 13 Posted May 13 (edited) 24 minutes ago, TeemoR said: And it's really sad what Jewish people have been through years. It's also sad what they are going through currently with having such an evil representation, Israel. Many Jews are not accepting Israel's genocidal acts and are on the right side of history the difference is that even if that was true, Israel is fighting Hamas, while Hamas/Hezbollah are planning to execute every single person on earth (you and me, and everybody on this forum included, sis) who does not obbey their rules. While palestinian people live, work and do politics in israel, there's no a single jew who lives on an arab country. Hamas and Hezbollah - and the nazis - have the erradication of jews on their formative documents. All Jews (genocide, remember?). They almost made it in 1945! On the opposite, palestinian population (and also arab) live on Israel and queer is a well known word there. Edited May 13 by Mister Gaga 5
Communion Posted May 13 Author Posted May 13 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mister Gaga said: applaud all you want. but be real fast at it. the moment Hamas/hezbollah takes over, you will loose your hands - rights, economy, freedom, family - before clapping. Girlypop, I'm sorry, but no one takes you on this dupe account seriously. Your posts are riddled with circular logic and conspiracy. It's hard to even discern if you're anything from a far-right European nazi posting from the basement of Visegrad or some Western diaspora of some nationalist group now arguing that Palestinians bare the punishment for your resentments and hang-up's with Islam throughout the region. Like even from nonsense this is jarring: 3 hours ago, Mister Gaga said: you'd be surprised at how many people got killed by the terrorist organizations she's defending. lets start with something soft: siria's civil war, with hezbollah on it's roots, gave us 2 million corpses Not even American neo-cons suggest that the Syrian civil war was *re-reads* orchestrated by Hezbollah (shocking that a militia group would become active in a conflict occurring at its borders), but that Assad was saved by Putin intervening on his behalf. Usually neo-cons ascribe this issue to Putin, so to see the argument now be placed on Hezbollah's shoulders tells me it's likelier a "reactionary hatred of Islam" motivation occurring with you. Ah, yes, defeat right-wing politics with your own reactionary politics. 1 hour ago, Mister Gaga said: Speaking negatively about them (not even in favour of israel) would get her inmediatly cancelled. What does Hamas have to do with the ADL faking hate crime statistics to misrepresent and falsely claim increases in antisemitic attacks in the US? 1 hour ago, Mister Gaga said: While palestinian population continues to grow dramatically (what a curious genocide), No one is this stupid. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been killed throughout the decades, consistently at 20x the rate of Israeli deaths. Tens of thousands of Palestinians were killed during the Nakba, but another 750,000 were ethnically cleansed from their homes. Going "it's not genocide because they're only being moved around, not ALL killed" is 1) not the internationally working nor academically accepted definition of genocide and 2) a misnomer given that we're literally in the final stages of Israel permanently ethnically cleansing Gaza and finishing half of its mission to push all Palestinians into either Egypt or Jordan, under the claim that removing every last Palestinian out of Palestine will prove there is no such thing as a Palestinian people. 57 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: Marwan Barghouti is a widely known and condemned terrorist. Yes, he is a terrorist. Quote Barghouti led marches to Israeli checkpoints, where riots broke out against Israeli soldiers and spurred on Palestinians in speeches at funerals and demonstrations, condoning the use of force to expel Israel from the West Bank and Gaza Strip. He has stated that, "I, and the Fatah movement to which I belong, strongly oppose attacks and the targeting of civilians inside Israel, our future neighbor, I reserve the right to protect myself, to resist the Israeli occupation of my country and to fight for my freedom" and has said, "I still seek peaceful coexistence between the equal and independent countries of Israel and Palestine based on full withdrawal from Palestinian territories occupied in 1967." Well, if a Zionist says so! 48 minutes ago, Mister Gaga said: their religion is certainly expanding. however, i can think of one nation and religious group who, over the course of history, has been decimated and executed over and over and over again. can you guess who that is? Welp and there it is. Part of me still is getting "posted from the basements of Visegrad" from you though. Edited May 13 by Communion 4
Phaunzie Posted May 13 Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mister Gaga said: why not? why would LGBT people - which i'm part of - be excluded from the common denominator of human race, which is stupidity? does being gay makes you aware or something? I spoke about this issue because a big part of the pro terrorist advocants come from the LGBT community, which is the ultimate joke. If you are capable enough to compare hitler to netanjahu, you should be able to recognize him as a NAZI, not as the leader of the german population. "i hate netanjahu = i hate israel" is what you are saying right there. I will be blunt, why are you and that other girl in every Palestine-related thread spewing the same nonsense as if you are getting paid to say that crap. Like the way yall dickride the IDF lies whilst actual Israeli citizens are marching to the beat of FREE PALESTINE. Neturei Karta and like-minded individuals of the Jewish faith are getting in Ben's arse over his treatment of Palestinian rights and their rightful land. However, you choose to ignore Jewish individuals calling for a ceasefire and the recognition of Palestine as a nation. Instead, you chose to doublespeak and defend a known war criminal. A criminal has been wanted for his crimes even as far back as 2001 and would arrested the moment he landed in a country other than Ukraine and the U.S.A. If you are American, I feel bad for you because this man has said. You would have to be blind & deaf in both ears to believe a single word that comes out of this man's and his organization's mouths. Hasbara has gotten to you hun. Got you whitewashing and infantilizing Zionists because you can't think of any other way to think. Zionists are not Jewish, Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. Anti-ZIONISM is not ANTI-SEMITISM. The Zionist movement has always been built of EVANGELICAL prosperity gospel with fascist undertones. The Zionist project is built on COLONIALISM. The first place Israel was gonna be placed was not Palestine, it was in Uganda. Most Zionists are not Jewish, they are Christian (Evangelicals). Ben is a fascist and has always been and will always be. Compared to Trump, he is way worse and for you to try and defend him, there is nothing I can do to help you. Edited May 13 by Phaunzie 6
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