MattieB Posted May 11 Posted May 11 16 minutes ago, SmittenCake said: Celebrities can shift public opinion Like idky yall acting brand new This is the apex of celebrity worship. Trust me, they'll defend their overlords with their dying breath 2
By the Water Posted May 11 Posted May 11 I get the feeling of wanting more celebs to speak up but this mentality of trying to force them to care about things will always be extremely weird
cuteboyzay Posted May 11 Posted May 11 (edited) This trend is so upsetting and weird because as someone who has multiple middle-eastern/Jewish friends and how painful it is seeing the pain on their face even TALKING about this. Who have family from the Middle East, and one of my bestfriends was literally BORN and raised in Palestine. They reallyyyy dislike a lot of the way America portrays it's activism. My bestfriend that was born and raised in Palestine HATES even posting about his daily life and has deleted his Instagram since because he's so ashamed of what's going on. Especially since his cousins and grandparents still live there. My other middle-eastern/Jewish friends have shown great disdain for trends like this and they've been veryyy active and go to protests consistently and spend so much of their time worrying, donating, and praying for this to all be over. I really do appreciate the passion we have for this, but some of these things just completely get lost in context and ends up becoming a contest of self-righteousness and moral superiority complexes. Soooo many of these people are doing it for clout too which has got to be one of the most narcissistic things. Like I said, at least it's raising awareness but it truly is not gonna do much in the grand scheme of things. They're even cancelling celebs who HAVE been very active with spreading awareness for Palestine! These celebs will find other ways to make money, to get our attention, to make up for "followers lost". It's just a little odd what this trend is imo. Edited May 11 by cuteboyzay 1 5
MattieB Posted May 11 Posted May 11 (edited) All we're saying is, celebrities use your influence for good to help out people in Gaza find new homes/escape genocide/ help talk about Congo and Sudan, especially Congo because the resources being mined directly affect us. All you gotta do is post a gofundme link or mention one of the many charities And these stans think we're asking for governmental level work, when these celebrities have gone out of the way to talk about issues like feminism, racism and homophobia Oh all of a sudden we need to write to senators and quit badgering celebrities? They're not equipped to speak on it? Spare me that rubbish lmao Edited May 11 by MattieB 1
SmittenCake Posted May 11 Posted May 11 50 minutes ago, Kassi said: "Celebrities can shift public opinion" — Madonna in the 90s Gaga don't ask don't tell Angelina jolie Like Let's think for a sec 1 1
Kassi Posted May 11 Posted May 11 12 minutes ago, SmittenCake said: Madonna in the 90s Gaga don't ask don't tell Angelina jolie Like Let's think for a sec This is peak celebrity worship. Don't Ask Don't Tell was getting repealed with or without Gaga. Nobody pays attention to Angelina. And Madonna impact was in providing visibility for people who had no representation in popular media — gay sex laws didn't get repealed until 2003. 2
BnPac Posted May 11 Posted May 11 17 hours ago, Communion said: This rhetoric, I think, could make sense if not for discussing American celebrities. It's not a "war". It's a genocide funded and largely done in-part by America, and thus American celebrities and the wealthy have influence./ It's not odd to question whether the famous and powerful who endorsed Biden in 2020 how they feel now about him endorsing genocide in an election year. It doesn't dispute what I said. Chosing Biden as the least evil doesn't mean you agree with all his politics. How many people have voted someone and later regretted it? Those celebrities are also not the reason Biden is in the office. Once again if they feel like fighting that war, they should. Putting pressure on them is stupid and counterproductive. Looking at politics through the lens of celebrities and pop culture makes very little sense to me but to each their own. They are genocides going on in Africa, the US governed by Bush caused one of the worst worthless wars ever, Barack's politics caused a vague of terrorism and subsequent Boko Haram that is decimating each day millions of Africans and no celebrities has the power to stop that. Forcing people, let alone celebrities, to care for ever single issue is imo stupid. But let's agree to disagree. 2 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: So, on one hand celebrities have the power to put Trump in office, but no power to move Biden while he is in office? They all spoke against Trump, rallied behind Hilary and Trump still was the president. 21 hours ago, Cesar said: Gaga built her platform on being a socially conscious pop star, and being different from the past pop stars before her who were too scared to show support to the LGBT community. Beyonce not only was she an activist for BLM. But, she literally used imagery from the black panthers. who are pro palestine, and have talked about how important the liberation of palestine is, for the liberation of people here in the US. This is not just some war. This is a war and a genocide funded by our tax dollars. Again so what? Gaga is pro LGBT, that's her fight. Beyoncé is pro libération of black people and for more women rights, those are her fights. And Beyoncé was wearing MJ's attire on the SB, not BP's. Even if she had, honoring someone doesn't mean you fight all the battles they have ever fought. You people are just minimizing an issue by reducing it to celebrities because it gives you a finger to point at someone. A lot of wars and genocides are funded by US money. Way more than some of you imagine. Those people surely care but forcing them to speak up is not the way to go. But anyway I hope this block out works fantastically and the Israeli government is ready to stop their awful acts after it. 3
SmittenCake Posted May 11 Posted May 11 5 minutes ago, Kassi said: This is peak celebrity worship. Don't Ask Don't Tell was getting repealed with or without Gaga. Nobody pays attention to Angelina. And Madonna impact was in providing visibility for people who had no representation in popular media — gay sex laws didn't get repealed until 2003. Btw Beyonce endorsing Beto was literally last minute
Kassi Posted May 11 Posted May 11 21 minutes ago, SmittenCake said: Btw Beyonce endorsing Beto was literally last minute — 2016 2020 Again, stop worshipping celebrities. They're entertainers, not superheros. 1
SmittenCake Posted May 11 Posted May 11 59 minutes ago, Kassi said: Nobody pays attention to Angelina. You're only saying this because she activity posts pro Palestine media on her IG. So damn ignorant.
More Than A Melody Posted May 11 Posted May 11 2 hours ago, SmittenCake said: Celebrities can shift public opinion Like idky yall acting brand new Public opinion has been with Palestine since October. IDK if you've gone outside in the past couple of months but there's been protests with hundreds of thousands of people. Students and professors are being arrested, people have blocked arms shipments, polls are so overwhelmingly pro Palestine it's incredibly unlikely Biden will get a second term. It's not public opinion that needs to change. It's the establishment, and no celebrity, not even Taylor Swift and Beyoncé, can accomplish that. Being aware of that isn't worshipping celebrities. It's the opposite. Centering celebrities and flooding all the information channels with this nonsense is as useful as Blackout was in 2020. No matter where I look for the past several days, all my results are just celebrities, what celebrity did what and when and how much. It's f*cking insane. 1
Tovitov Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) Go after Beyonce and Gaga all you want(they can take it), but it seems wrong to go after someone like Haylee Baylee. She got invited to a once in a lifetime opportunity wearing a free dress, made a Tiktok with a viral sound and now the outrage police is trying to take her down. Everything in this god damn world is awful already, leave Haylee alone. Every time there's an important issue in the world, people on social media try and cancel everyone who either isn't on their side or who hasn't taken a position. Edited May 12 by Tovitov 4
Rep2000 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 6 hours ago, MattieB said: This is the apex of celebrity worship. Trust me, they'll defend their overlords with their dying breath Refering celebs as "overlords"... Yeah I don't think you have the self awareness to see it. But it's you who have the celeb worship mentality, dear. Because you just keep projecting it. 1
Rep2000 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 5 hours ago, SmittenCake said: Madonna in the 90s Gaga don't ask don't tell Angelina jolie Like Let's think for a sec Please don't tell me that you truly believe Gaga repeals the DADT policy...
Rep2000 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 9 hours ago, Chris said: The very end of this video. Like how old are you? Twelve? Oh my gosh, this is so insufferable. I- At the end of the day, this is just another trend for clicks, and follows and likes to these tiktokers. They somehow manage to make the most talked about issue of our times into something that benefits themselves.
Chris Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: Oh my gosh, this is so insufferable. I- BLOCKED! Heheh
Chris Posted May 12 Posted May 12 5 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: They somehow manage to make the most talked about issue of our times into something that benefits themselves These Tik Tokers are disgusting individuals.
Saintlor Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Interesting how TikTok are only campaigning to block female celebrities and not the male celebrities who they all obsess over their looks 2
cuteboyzay Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tovitov said: Go after Beyonce and Gaga all you want(they can take it), but it seems wrong to go after someone like Haylee Baylee. She got invited to a once in a lifetime opportunity wearing a free dress, made a Tiktok with a viral sound and now the outrage police is trying to take her down. Everything in this god damn world is awful already, leave Haylee alone. Every time there's an important issue in the world, people on social media try and cancel everyone who either isn't on their side or who hasn't taken a position. This part too. When I started seeing TikTok's randomly popping up of "taking Haylee Baylee down" I was SOOO confused. And it was soooo weird watching people literally post a FOLLOWER COUNTDOWN in REAL TIME of her losing her followers. It gave me the WEIRDEST feeling cause I don't even follow the girl but watching people b*at off at some sh*t like that was just weird affff. It TOTALLY detracts from the actual cause and it was just sooo odd. It's literally another form of celebrity worship/obsession. Edited May 12 by cuteboyzay 1
cuteboyzay Posted May 12 Posted May 12 20 minutes ago, Saintlor said: Interesting how TikTok are only campaigning to block female celebrities and not the male celebrities who they all obsess over their looks OOP!
I Melt Away Posted May 12 Posted May 12 (edited) I truly don't see the point of this other than it being performative and is of no actual help to the actual Palestine movement. People are going out there way to look up and block celebrity social media accounts, most of them being celebs they never followed or engaged with in the first place. (Like yes The Rock is huge but were you really f*cking with his social media posts like that?) Okay so you blocked a bunch of celebs you never even followed. Then what? Maybe Gen Z is blurring the line of an influencer and celebrity because to them celebrities are influencers and vice versa but social media is not the main form of money for majority of actors, singers, etc. Taylor Swift and Beyoncé could delete all of their social media right now and not have a huge dent in their careers. If you really wanted to boycott these celebs, call in radio stations to stop playing their music. Stop listening to their albums or watching their shows/films. Blocking them on socials is not gonna put pressure on celebs as much as you think it would. People are blocking celebs because this is the easiest thing to do as a form of "activism" and especially since as a society we are hay-wired into taking down and hating on public figures in the first place. Edited May 12 by I Melt Away 2
Daglazzo Posted May 12 Posted May 12 6 hours ago, Tovitov said: Go after Beyonce and Gaga all you want(they can take it), but it seems wrong to go after someone like Haylee Baylee. She got invited to a once in a lifetime opportunity wearing a free dress, made a Tiktok with a viral sound and now the outrage police is trying to take her down. Everything in this god damn world is awful already, leave Haylee alone. Every time there's an important issue in the world, people on social media try and cancel everyone who either isn't on their side or who hasn't taken a position. This is exactly what she wants you to think. She is not like us, she is extremely rich and it's definitely not once in a lifetime opportunity for her! She knew what this sound means and she used it with purpose.
MattieB Posted May 12 Posted May 12 5 hours ago, Rep2000 said: Refering celebs as "overlords"... Yeah I don't think you have the self awareness to see it. But it's you who have the celeb worship mentality, dear. Because you just keep projecting it. Ok, stan of celebrity taylor swift
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