base talk Why aren't our faves showing support for Palestine?

[More Than A Melody]

I think there's multiple reasons:

 

1. They can just not care, which is a horrible, but possible thought

2. There's no actual pressure to speak up and a lot of celebs (most of them) only speak when there's actual pressure

3. The little pressure there is isn't enough to overcome the backlash that comes from speaking up, both from within the industry and from people who hide behind antisemitism

4. When celebs do speak up, the thoughtless mob often just finds an issue with what they said. I saw people dragging Gigi Hadid for getting Starbucks, despite the fact that Starbucks is not boycotted by BDS, Gigi is ACTUALLY PALESTINIAN, and she has spoken up (and she did it almost immediately). I saw people saying "she's not Palestinian she's Dutch" or "she truly is Yolanda's daughter" and it had tens of thousands of likes and barely anyone disagreeing. Gigi had to basically go dark on social media because of the death threats she AND HER DAUGHTER received.

 

So, there's a mixed bag. On one hand some celebs are scared, others don't care, etc. I don't think there's one reason. But I also think in terms of societal change, we've regressed a lot, even from back in 2020. Progressiveness is not trendy anymore so I think we'll see less and less celebs speak up. They have less incentives now. 

 

What I have learned is that I don't need them. I'll support if they're not terrible people and I like their art, but I'll look for my activism and opinions elsewhere, not on multi-millionaires (sometimes billionaires) who cannot comprehend what it'd be like to walk a day in my shoes, let alone a Palestinian child. 

 

[DollyPardon]

Nicki Minaj has NOT spoken up on this topic and I think we all know why.

[Timber]

4 hours ago, Troll Idle said:

Mine speaks out regulary, pls add her to the OP @Timber

 

Thank u queen, will add!

[shookspeare]

8 hours ago, playwithme said:

 

 

 

So, you don't care about "the war in Ukraine" despite the fact that is undergoing an actual genocide with a much bigger number of dead civilians because Ukrainians are whiteThe far-left in a nutshell. 

 

Which global stage? I hear about Palestine all the ******* time despite the fact that I'm from Europe, which has nothing to do with Palestine. I'm sick and tired of it. Ukraine barely gets any coverage in the Western media (not to mention the Middle East).     

we've known it was the case all along but that user basically saying "I don't care about Ukraine because they're white" whew chile imagine reducing geopolitics down to race 

[Bookmark99]

They're not allowed (i'll leave it there). At least not without serious consequences. Most are label puppets. 

Edited May 9 by Bookmark99

[Kristie Kuwa]

My fav doesnt even promote her own albums anymore nnnnn

 

[OnikaSlays]

1 hour ago, DollyPardon said:

Nicki Minaj has NOT spoken up on this topic and I think we all know why.

She doesn't have to, and as she shouldn't. What's the point when there's an angry mob waiting to pick apart any statement you make? I'm sure this is how most celebrities feel. 

 

You can thank the far-left™ and their ability to hijack and ruin any political movement they involve themselves in for that though. 

Edited May 9 by OnikaSlays

[Pink Ranger]

Because they are singers and nobody listens to them when it comes to real life matters despite what ATRL think, they have zero impact on real world decisions.

 

how many famous celebrities/singers endorsed Hilary Clinton before the trump administration? Did that make any difference to the outcome of the election? No it didn't, because people don't care what they have to think.

 

these people are in the business of entertainment and should stick to such, leave the activism to those who will actually make a difference. 

[BionicWooHoo]

Xtina made a very peace for everyone both sides statement that was NOT it but this is also the same person who didn't know what Mitt Romney looked like…she like lives in her own bubble but she needs to do better 

[Problematique]

Kelela did, and we love her for it

 

It's good to see an artist of a smaller calibre not be a spineless coward and overlook genocide 

 

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[Archetype]

The older pop girls who have a lot going for them right now are not going to speak up regarding this due to the proximity to Israeli/pro-Israel money that funds most of their projects or brings them rare opportunities.  Gaga in particular... she needed to make friends with the right people to be where she is today, and those are the very same people who can absolutely blacklist her from ever being in a major movie again.  

 

12 hours ago, bjorn said:

Blacklisted 

 

Just look at Bella Hadids modeling career? 

Bella stopped / paused her modeling career because of her significant health issues, specifically Lyme disease, which significantly flared up during the pandemic.  She did absolutely lose work from speaking out, but it seems like, at least from her most recent interviews, she had to prioritize her own health if she wants to come back strong.

Edited May 9 by Archetype

[Relampago.]

Dua has, not sure about other faves

[Eternium]

Because it's a proxy war for our country and there would be a lot of negative pressure if someone did speak out. What you should be addressing is how many of these stars are silenced. 

[Flo96]

Because things like that are happening everyday, everywhere. Who's speaking up for Ouïghours ? The people of Myanmar ? The ethnic cleansing in RDC made by Rwanda ? No one. Y'all better stop now with this madness or begin to care for everyone and not just one out of these thousands wars just because you can hate on "evil jews".

Edited May 10 by Flo96

[Aethereal]

On 5/9/2024 at 10:06 AM, heckinglovato said:

 

 

 

 

 

It's funny how nobody had an issue with these celebrities being activists when it came to the Russia/Ukraine war, where they used their massive platforms (rightfully so) so protest the death of innocent Ukrainian civilians due to unprovoked Russian aggression.

 

But when it comes to a literal genocide killing a much larger portion of Arab civilians, suddenly they "can't weigh in on every issue", they're not activists, they suddenly begin to focus on being entertainers, feminism gets invoked with "well what about the male celebrities", and they start getting compared to doctors and nurses (who by the way, do speak up on the genocide).

 

This will get downvoted because y'all can't admit that your faves (and mine) and spineless cowards who don't mind staying silent in the face of genocide because it's inconvenient and might cause a dent in their commercial success, despite already being millionaires who are set for life.

 

Get a grip. 

Many of our faves did not talk about Ukraine too though. And there is also the 10/7 massacre if you speak out many will start twisting your words "you liked what happened in Oct 7th". Madonna did speak in 2014 though, explicitly marking the death of children. 

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"These flowers are like the innocent children of GAZA! Who has a right to destroy them? No One!!!! CEASE FIRE! #peaceinthemiddleeast" -Madonna

Të gjitha reagi

 

 

[Alldeezy]

Denis mainly shares all the Ukraine stuff like almost all the time. 

[Fleahive]

I do wonder if they text each other on group chats advice on how to go about it. 
 

Taylor: Hey have you heard about the war with Israel and Palestine

 

Beyonce: No

 

Selena: I think we should say something but I'm tired of backlash. 

 

Taylor: Yeah don't it's not good PR

 

Sza: I posted

 

*chat disbanded"

[unino]

On 5/9/2024 at 2:12 PM, bjorn said:

Blacklisted 

 

Just look at Bella Hadids modeling career? 

wow now yeah that's shitty. The way she was everywhere and then suddenly disappeareed from the media 

[MattieB]

On 5/9/2024 at 7:15 AM, PoisonedIvy said:

I'm sorry but I literally DON'T want entertainers speaking up on geopolitical conflicts. Like, I actually don't. Leave that to the activists and politicians. People who actually spread thorough, well researched, and articulate information on the matters. I don't need virtue signaling, I need action plans & reform.

This is an extremely poor take, celebrities are influencers. You do not need to be all the way knowledgeable to speak on an issue. This became a HUMANITARIAN issue a long time ago, speaking on it will bring awareness, most of the gofundmes will be met for the evacuation of Gazan families 

Yall deitify these people as gods but shirk any ACTUAL responsibilities of them

 

What's funny is yall will want them to speak up when it's an issue that affects you aka lgbtq 

[prettyinpink940]

My fave does not support terrorists. 

[Lyrical.]

The sooner you accept that you cannot control what other people do or say, the better. It's a huge waste of time and energy to even think like this.
 

Move on and do what YOU can to spread awareness; that is within your control.

[lonnie]

The answer is that most don't care and those that might are cowardly. Rihanna for example: most probably don't remember when Rihanna voiced her support for a Free Palestine a decade ago and the instant horrible backlash she received because of it, and how she hasn't made a bold stance on the issue since.

[PoisonedIvy]

7 hours ago, MattieB said:

This is an extremely poor take, celebrities are influencers. You do not need to be all the way knowledgeable to speak on an issue. This became a HUMANITARIAN issue a long time ago, speaking on it will bring awareness, most of the gofundmes will be met for the evacuation of Gazan families 

Yall deitify these people as gods but shirk any ACTUAL responsibilities of them

 

What's funny is yall will want them to speak up when it's an issue that affects you aka lgbtq 

Celebrities aren't deities or gods. I don't pretend they are and that burden should not be placed upon them. I also don't care for them to speak up on LGBTQ rights. I literally do not ever want or need or expect any entertainer to speak on any human rights issues. If they do, cool, that's their prerogative; if they don't, that's fine too, and there's no shame to be cast in that scenario. 
 

I don't need "influencers," "celebrities," or "entertainers" blindly leading the masses. Activism is not something to take lightly. You are literally shaping the future. That's a responsibility no artist should bear ; we have the proper advocates for that and that's where we should direct our attention. 

[Rep2000]

On 5/10/2024 at 1:34 PM, Flo96 said:

Because things like that are happening everyday, everywhere. Who's speaking up for Ouïghours ? The people of Myanmar ? The ethnic cleansing in RDC made by Rwanda ? 

Don't forget Uyghurs in China. Oddly enough, we just don't hear anything about them anymore among all the headlines... 

[Into The Void]

I think they should only if they are educated on what is going on.  I know one of my faves isn't very politically knowledgeable in the first place why would they speak on things they don't know much about?

Edited May 12 by Into The Void