vale9001 Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) Maybe even them are less celebrity obsessed than american Citizens. With all the "real people" being on the streets why your thought is if lady Gaga Twitted or not. What changes to the world?. Who ******* cares?. There are millions of journalists and experts outthere being influencers for this kind of thing. Why you feel you need lady Gaga opinion on It? And why are you specifically called out women and not men? Singers and not actors? Edited May 9 by vale9001 1 6
wanderlust Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) People have to be really scared.. there must be big powers behind the scenes demanding this, otherwise I'm sure most of them would at least vocally protest this. We don't know. It's easy for us, on the outside, to criticise and throw hate "why aren't they speaking??!" I think in private, many of them might be helping, but they can't voice it in public (PS. Madonna actually has supported them, but in subtle ways: white flag of surrender during her show, letting her dancers wave the Palestinian flag during songs, speeches about stopping the war, but it's true she's a lot more careful and subtle than she normally would be, I think because her manager is Israeli and seems to be on their side-she always used to be THE most vocal of any artist when things like this happened and has helped girls education in Palestine schools before) Edited May 9 by wanderlust 5
Tusk Posted May 9 Posted May 9 14 minutes ago, Kayseri Mantisi said: what is this comparison? does your doctor & hairdresser have the millions/billions of reach and engagement like these celebrities do? they don't even have a platform to educate people about things or spread facts so of course they don't need to talk about anything lmao. no one is forcing celebrities to talk about Palestine, but so many people are unaware of what's going around the world in their daily life, and when celebrities speak up about it, these people become aware of what's happening. not when your hairdresser speaks about it. They do not have to do anything but their job. Focus on people that it is their actual job to change laws and policies. 1 2
Popular Post heckinglovato Posted May 9 Popular Post Posted May 9 1 hour ago, playwithme said: Why are they supposed to show support for Palestine? Pop girls do not have to weigh in on every issue. 1 hour ago, Polgg48 said: they are singers/recording artists, not specialists in the field as politician or human right activists. we only care if they smash on chart serve bops or panned flop. unless they got bills to speak out from their masters and be puppets for news flash. 44 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: I'm sorry but I literally DON'T want entertainers speaking up on geopolitical conflicts. Like, I actually don't. Leave that to the activists and politicians. People who actually spread thorough, well researched, and articulate information on the matters. I don't need virtue signaling, I need action plans & reform. 16 minutes ago, Tusk said: Agreed. It's like asking your doctor, hairdresser, the person that bags your groceries if they support Palestine. 11 minutes ago, LustSpell said: Because our faves are not activists, they are music stars. Not everyone needs an opinion on everything. It's incredibly childish and immature to think so. 7 minutes ago, vale9001 said: Maybe even them are less celebrity obsessed than american Citizens. With all the "real people" being on the streets why your thought is if lady Gaga Twitted or not. What changes to the world?. Who ******* cares?. There are millions of journalists and experts outthere being influencers for this kind of thing. Why you feel you need lady Gaga opinion on It? And why are you specifically called out women and not men? Singers and not actors? It's funny how nobody had an issue with these celebrities being activists when it came to the Russia/Ukraine war, where they used their massive platforms (rightfully so) so protest the death of innocent Ukrainian civilians due to unprovoked Russian aggression. But when it comes to a literal genocide killing a much larger portion of Arab civilians, suddenly they "can't weigh in on every issue", they're not activists, they suddenly begin to focus on being entertainers, feminism gets invoked with "well what about the male celebrities", and they start getting compared to doctors and nurses (who by the way, do speak up on the genocide). This will get downvoted because y'all can't admit that your faves (and mine) and spineless cowards who don't mind staying silent in the face of genocide because it's inconvenient and might cause a dent in their commercial success, despite already being millionaires who are set for life. Get a grip. 4 20 1
Kayseri Mantisi Posted May 9 Posted May 9 2 minutes ago, Tusk said: They do not have to do anything but their job. Focus on people that it is their actual job to change laws and policies. as you see my reply clearly said they're not forced to speak about it. you compared the power of an artist known by billions of people to a random hairdresser. especially ironic coming from a Taylor Swift stan. thank god we have at least some celebrities speaking up about it so many people actually get educated. those lawyers and policy workers you're talking about have little to no impact on effecting and educating people in daily life. 2
visions Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Because they're fickle, and their support is conditional on whether or not their career could be negatively affected. The people asking "why would you expect celebrities to speak on this" are just deflecting and aren't really answering the question. This is a humanitarian crisis, an ethnic cleansing. Celebrities are simply just too selfish and self important believing their careers are more important than speaking out against genocide. 2 10
WhateverYouWant Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) They are shallow fake people and nothing like what we delude ourselves in believing I agree they don't have to say s*** but it speaks loud how they don't care to either. that person who's comparing the lady that bags my groceries to someone with a real platform with millions of followers just shows how little anyone cares about this. Yall will have full on meltdowns over your fave not tweeting about a song. The issue is that most of these people pretend to care until it matters. the us government has its tongue so far up the wrong sides a** having public support from public figures would mean a lot. depressing Edited May 9 by WhateverYouWant 4
Both Sides Now Posted May 9 Posted May 9 It's not in their financial interest and they lack the moral courage. Lorde cancelled a concert in Israel after Jewish and Palestinian fans penned her an open letter to respect a cultural boycott. Then this full page ad was taken out in the Washington Post: 2
playwithme Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 43 minutes ago, heckinglovato said: It's funny how nobody had an issue with these celebrities being activists when it came to the Russia/Ukraine war, where they used their massive platforms (rightfully so) so protest the death of innocent Ukrainian civilians due to unprovoked Russian aggression. But when it comes to a literal genocide killing a much larger portion of Arab civilians, suddenly they "can't weigh in on every issue", they're not activists, they suddenly begin to focus on being entertainers, feminism gets invoked with "well what about the male celebrities", and they start getting compared to doctors and nurses (who by the way, do speak up on the genocide). This will get downvoted because y'all can't admit that your faves (and mine) and spineless cowards who don't mind staying silent in the face of genocide because it's inconvenient and might cause a dent in their commercial success, despite already being millionaires who are set for life. Get a grip. Plenty of celebrities from the OP's list did not speak out in support of Ukraine (Taylor, Mariah, J Lo, Shakira, Beyonce, you name it). Some celebrities who spoke out in support of Ukraine had some sort of personal connection with Ukraine (like Miley filming her video for NBLAH in Kyiv). I didn't see any threads from Ukraine supporters demanding that Taylor Swift posts the Ukrainian flag on Twitter. Palestine supporters think that the world should revolve around Palestine, and this kind of mentality is only hurting their cause behind the general public finds this behavior off-putting. Edited May 9 by playwithme 4 1 4
Johnny Jacobs Posted May 9 Posted May 9 1 hour ago, bjorn said: Blacklisted Just look at Bella Hadids modeling career? What about it? She makes millions and modeled everywhere possible.
heckinglovato Posted May 9 Posted May 9 13 minutes ago, playwithme said: Plenty of celebrities from the OP's list did not speak out in support of Ukraine (Taylor, Mariah, J Lo, Shakira, Beyonce, you name it). Some celebrities who spoke out in support of Ukraine had some sort of personal connection with Ukraine (like Miley filming her video for NBLAH in Kyiv). I didn't see any threads from Ukraine supporters demanding that Taylor Swift posts the Ukrainian flag on Twitter. Palestine supporters think that the world should revolve around Palestine, and this kind of mentality is only hurting their cause behind the general public finds this behavior off-putting. Israel is on trial for genocide. An entire population is being ethnically cleansed, all their homes destroyed, every last university and place of worship flattened to the ground. All eyes should be on Palestine and the public seemingly agrees, in case you haven't yet seen the massive protests filling the streets and colleges. If you find that behavior "off-putting" and want to use your time defending out-of-touch millionaire celebrities then there's something royally ****** up within you. Look inwards babe find some healing cause seems you've got some stuff to work on! 6 1
FlyOnTheWall Posted May 9 Posted May 9 There must be a **** ton of (zionist) advisors in the industry telling them not to and sadly most of them are too much of cowards despite cosplaying as part time activists whenever it benefits their brand.
brazil Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Because they're greedy spineless capitalists that enjoy the status quo 5
PoisonedIvy Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, heckinglovato said: It's funny how nobody had an issue with these celebrities being activists when it came to the Russia/Ukraine war, where they used their massive platforms (rightfully so) so protest the death of innocent Ukrainian civilians due to unprovoked Russian aggression. But when it comes to a literal genocide killing a much larger portion of Arab civilians, suddenly they "can't weigh in on every issue", they're not activists, they suddenly begin to focus on being entertainers, feminism gets invoked with "well what about the male celebrities", and they start getting compared to doctors and nurses (who by the way, do speak up on the genocide). This will get downvoted because y'all can't admit that your faves (and mine) and spineless cowards who don't mind staying silent in the face of genocide because it's inconvenient and might cause a dent in their commercial success, despite already being millionaires who are set for life. Get a grip. I care more about the Palestinian genocide than I really did for the war in Ukraine. Maybe that's cold and blunt to say but it's true. I feel like no one fights for black & brown people on the global stage, and it's hurtful to see. But don't virtue signal and act like I had "no problem with celebrities weighing in on the Ukraine war" when most of the A List entertainers we're referencing in this thread didn't speak up on either global event. Which lines up perfectly with what I expressed in my initial post that you quoted: celebrities & entertainers are not activists or politicians. I do not want, need, or care for their public statements. They are not the harbingers of social change. We are. and for good measure, yes, I absolutely can admit that any celebrity that doesn't speak out against genocide is a coward that cares more about their pockets and their business partners than they do about the lives of innocent people. But I also don't feel that any of them are obligated to speak up nor does it actually incite any tangible reform, so I'm not about to shame them or their cowardice either. Edited May 9 by PoisonedIvy 2
playboi Posted May 9 Posted May 9 idk and i'm started to get really annoyed because I don't know what opinion to have, i just wish slayyyter would tell me already
Kimi Posted May 9 Posted May 9 it's gonna be bad for business and they are too cowardly to do so since making money it's their prime goal. Also some of them are pro israel lmao
playwithme Posted May 9 Posted May 9 59 minutes ago, heckinglovato said: Israel is on trial for genocide. An entire population is being ethnically cleansed, all their homes destroyed, every last university and place of worship flattened to the ground. All eyes should be on Palestine and the public seemingly agrees, in case you haven't yet seen the massive protests filling the streets and colleges. If you find that behavior "off-putting" and want to use your time defending out-of-touch millionaire celebrities then there's something royally ****** up within you. Look inwards babe find some healing cause seems you've got some stuff to work on! None of this is true. The American general public doesn't care about Palestine, and only a small (but vocal) minority of college students cares about this issue. Far-left activists who are burning American flags and defacing statues are certainly not winning over the general public. 24 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: I care more about the Palestinian genocide than I really did for the war in Ukraine. Maybe that's cold and blunt to say but it's true. I feel like no one fights for black & brown people on the global stage. So, you don't care about "the war in Ukraine" despite the fact that is undergoing an actual genocide with a much bigger number of dead civilians because Ukrainians are whiteThe far-left in a nutshell. Which global stage? I hear about Palestine all the ******* time despite the fact that I'm from Europe, which has nothing to do with Palestine. I'm sick and tired of it. Ukraine barely gets any coverage in the Western media (not to mention the Middle East). 2 3
theintriguingone Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Some of them don't care, some support Israel, some don't want to risk their career/pockets, some are wilfully ignorant and don't know enough about what's going on, some have been advised to remain silent for their own good etc. I'm sure there are a myriad of reasons for their silence but i don't think any of them are valid enough to not speak up about genocide. 2
Lüwís Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) Not everyone needs to speak on an issue. No one should be obliged to share their opinion(s). Debates around the Palestine-Israeli conflict are so divisive, bitter and nasty. If you come out in support of one side, you get incessant vitriolic hate from the other. You can't have any neutral / middle ground opinions or critique either side, which I suspect a lot of onlookers do. A lot of people would rather just not say anything at all. That's absolutely their prerogative. We shouldn't expect pop stars, musicians, artists - or any single human being to be coerced into giving their opinions on everything. We're not entitled to know everything going on in someone's mind. If someone would rather not say a word in order to avoid abuse, threats and harassment, then leave them be. Don't bully someone into doing something they don't want to do. Edited May 10 by Lüwís 3
Marry The Gods Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Most celebrities are rich cowards who only care about how to line their pockets more.
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