Rigalo Posted July 23 Posted July 23 I've been playing this since the album came out people are just over it I fear
kayliah Posted July 24 Posted July 24 supernatural should have the third single this tanked so hard and ariana is kinda not the it girl anymore. ronan and carpenter have more traction and interest from the genz pop... 1 1
laqqinq Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Just... pftttttt. The #16 peak was good for a post-album, third single. 3
IBeMe Posted July 29 Posted July 29 She thought this song could supplant what the fans ACTUALLY want which is Fantasize....RELEASE IT FAT, Arianaaaaaa!!!! 1
Badgalbriel Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Post album singles just don't work anymore. There's no reason for fans ir the gp to focus on one track when they have the entire album to focus on.
Funnyfatty Posted July 29 Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: Post album singles just don't work anymore. There's no reason for fans ir the gp to focus on one track when they have the entire album to focus on. Its not for the fans. The fans have the album already and are aware of the song, they release post album singles to reach an audience that didn't care about the album or the artist. And i also believe that having lots of songs on the radios is smart. A few years ago they had 5 songs by her playing, now just 1 4
KatyPrismSpirit Posted July 29 Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: Post album singles just don't work anymore. There's no reason for fans ir the gp to focus on one track when they have the entire album to focus on. Cruel Summer, Levitating, Save Your Tears, Snooze, Birds Of A Feather are post album singles and those are all some of the biggest smash hits of this decade. theres so many more examples of successful post-album singles. this song just didn't gravitate to the public like that 4 3
Badgalbriel Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Just now, Funnyfatty said: Its not for the fans. The fans have the album already and are aware of the song, they release post album singles to reach an audience that didn't care about the album or the artist. And i also believe that having lots of songs on the radios is smart. A few years ago they had 5 songs by her playing, now just 1 Well, I agree. But with streaming, I feel like anyone from the GP that could've been interested in Ariana's music, already checked the album on release week and decided which songs they wanted to hear or not. That's why I have this theory that post album singles don't work for established artists like Ariana, Taylor, Harry, Beyoncé, etc. 1
Badgalbriel Posted July 29 Posted July 29 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: Cruel Summer, Levitating, Save Your Tears, Snooze, Birds Of A Feather are post album singles and those are all some of the biggest smash hits of this decade. theres so many more examples of successful post-album singles. this song just didn't gravitate to the public like that Cruel Summer went viral years later because of the biggest tour ever. BOAF was a hit from day 1 of album release. Levitating was due to Dua not being a household name yet, so she had room to grow from there. 4
Funnyfatty Posted July 29 Posted July 29 1 hour ago, Badgalbriel said: Well, I agree. But with streaming, I feel like anyone from the GP that could've been interested in Ariana's music, already checked the album on release week and decided which songs they wanted to hear or not. That's why I have this theory that post album singles don't work for established artists like Ariana, Taylor, Harry, Beyoncé, etc. Well that's obviously not true. I didn't really care about this album when it came out. I heard the second single 1 month after the release of the album and then i decided to give it a try. If this albums get more promoted i might care and like it even more. Singles and MVs give a new perspective to the listener about the song and the artist. Thats why i dislike Beyonce now so much (because she doesn't care to perform her music or give us the MV) while i like this about Ariana. 2
OrgVisual Posted July 29 Posted July 29 Clearly her new manager is not pulling the strings enough. Like how Taylor's new single already has the same amount of airplay is insane, considering TBIM is sent to so many different radio formats. The callout on Pop is excellent so there's no reason why it's not being played more
MaxMartin Posted July 29 Posted July 29 the song is just not that hooky , the chorus is not very memorable (verses are much better) i hate to bring this track up but it's true that fantasize was much more melodically interesting 1
El Nino Posted July 29 Posted July 29 This song is about her taking someone else's man, which she did in real life. An unattractive man at all. The GP ain't trying to hear that. Did yall forget she was dragged relentlessly about it during Yes, And? We Can't Be Friends stopped the bleeding, but sis basically woke it up again by releasing this song. Aside from that, the song is good, but it's too 90s pop & R&B sounding to be a streaming hit. It kinda reminds me of her early work from YT. I just hate that she went and got Brandy and Monica for the remix and flopped like it never existed. The new generation reminds us how far we're removed from the late 90s. Ouch.
Blue Monday Posted July 30 Posted July 30 I feel like this song is kind of being cannibalized by We Can't Be Friends, which has peaked but isn't really done yet
Cqmerqn Posted July 30 Posted July 30 On 7/29/2024 at 2:00 PM, MaxMartin said: the song is just not that hooky , the chorus is not very memorable (verses are much better) i hate to bring this track up but it's true that fantasize was much more melodically interesting I'd love to know how big fantasize would've been. Sigh.
Truth Teller Posted July 30 Posted July 30 48 minutes ago, Blue Monday said: I feel like this song is kind of being cannibalized by We Can't Be Friends, which has peaked but isn't really done yet The concept of a big hit cannibalizing the follow-up is lowkey a stan myth. It's just that tbim had its viral trend 4 months ago and its moment sort of passed. Still, it may not be smashing but it's steadily amassing streams and keeping the album afloat. And it's pulling excellent callouts so there's always the chance pop radio puts it on high(er) rotation which would guarantee chart longevity
Truth Teller Posted July 30 Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, Cqmerqn said: I'd love to know how big fantasize would've been. Sigh. enormous. people are HUNGRY for the 1999 sound and the other girls can't do it right. a full-on bubblegum era from her would be a collapse. unfortunately, she only tapped into it ironically
Cqmerqn Posted July 30 Posted July 30 17 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: enormous. people are HUNGRY for the 1999 sound and the other girls can't do it right. a full-on bubblegum era from her would be a collapse. unfortunately, she only tapped into it ironically Whats crazy is that I think it would still smash if released today 1
Chris Posted July 30 Posted July 30 On 7/20/2024 at 7:41 AM, mxoonlight said: And now they're making one hour video essays about her for SEO because people are peddling theories she's a psycho because of her own dumb ass words and actions Who?
Chris Posted July 30 Posted July 30 I'm still so annoyed by how this stalled at #16. We're not getting anymore singles after this. She's not even promoting her album anymore.
Exodus Posted July 31 Posted July 31 6 hours ago, Truth Teller said: The concept of a big hit cannibalizing the follow-up is lowkey a stan myth. It's just that tbim had its viral trend 4 months ago and its moment sort of passed. Still, it may not be smashing but it's steadily amassing streams and keeping the album afloat. And it's pulling excellent callouts so there's always the chance pop radio puts it on high(er) rotation which would guarantee chart longevity Not a myth. We Belong Together/Shake It Off Work From Home/Flex Just a few examples. 1
Truth Teller Posted July 31 Posted July 31 59 minutes ago, Exodus said: Not a myth. We Belong Together/Shake It Off Work From Home/Flex Just a few examples. Shake It Off was an enormous hit. It was #15 on the year end off of just the first 4-5 months of its run and dominated 3 radio formats despite WBT staying on power rotation all year. If anything, it's a prime example of why the cannibalizing thing isn't true Flex is a bad song and was not going to be a bigger hit regardless of WFH (and it's not like 5H were hitmakers, WFH is their only top 10 ). Same applies to most ATRL examples of a huge hit cannibalizing another single. Unconditionally, Birthday, You Da One, The Weeknd's In Your Eyes... just songs that simply weren't that strong / smash worthy anyway.
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