Illusi0n Posted May 7 Posted May 7 2 minutes ago, Rotunda said: The point is to come out on top in the culture, not commercially Like y'all said Remy came out on top over Nicki? Now look where she is. If it's only for the culture, everyone only cares for the moment and forget about it tomorrow, which makes it entirely stupid.
Dreajae Posted May 7 Posted May 7 8 minutes ago, Illusi0n said: The point is, and still stands, that Kendrick won't be pulling anywhere near these numbers once this beef is over, so it's literally all clout. The whole point of a rap beef is to "end" the other person and come out on top at the end of it all, and Kendrick won't come out on top over Drake commercially with his actual music. Drakes credibility is shot and has been going down the drain since 2018. He hasn't been the same since. His machine is working overtime to make sure he retains his commercial appeal throughout this latest lost rap beef. Most of you truly have no concept of how shook this man and his team are right now. Drake has always been jealous of Kendricks respect in hip hop and with the critics. He can't even downplay Kendricks numbers like a Pusha T or Meek cause Kendrick has legit sold a ton of them. And this is without strictly pandering to a certain crowd or riding other black peoples aesthetic to go #1. 9
Virgos Groove Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Just now, Illusi0n said: Not a Drake stan at all, so not quite sure where you interpreted that, and never once did I imply Kendrick is an underground artist. We're on a pop forum full of teenage gays that know nothing about rap or rap beefs. You all jump to conclusions because of immediate results without considering the bigger picture. Is this picture big enough for you? 5 1
Dialamba Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Just now, Illusi0n said: Not a Drake stan at all, so not quite sure where you interpreted that, and never once did I imply Kendrick is an underground artist. We're on a pop forum full of teenage gays that know nothing about rap or rap beefs. You all jump to conclusions because of immediate results without considering the bigger picture. You started to talk about stats then talk about bigger picture Kendrick has two of the longest charting albums of all the time on BB I don't think he has to worry about charts. 4
punisher Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Illusi0n said: Good for him, but let's see how his music performs compared to Drake's after he's done using Drake's name for clout btw kendrick's 8 year old album is outstreaming every drake album including his latest one, and has been. only 14 tracks too 4 2
legendofthetour Posted May 7 Posted May 7 UMG need to start making calls, how can they let a song calling the guy they just paid $400M all these inappropriate names be breaking records and going #1?? What's going on here ?? 6 1
JBJT2786 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Illusi0n said: The people downvoting my comment I 100% guarantee can't name 5 Kendrick songs King Kunta DNA Swimming Pools Loyalty Rich Spirit GFY
CovalentBondage Posted May 7 Posted May 7 3 minutes ago, punisher said: btw kendrick's 8 year old album is outstreaming every drake album including his latest one, and has been. only 14 tracks too It's an Illusi0n
Illusi0n Posted May 7 Posted May 7 3 minutes ago, punisher said: btw kendrick's 8 year old album is outstreaming every drake album including his latest one, and has been. only 14 tracks too And is that because of the beef or is it regularly out streaming all of them?
punisher Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Illusi0n said: And is that because of the beef or is it regularly out streaming all of them? as i said in the og post "and has been"
Dreajae Posted May 7 Posted May 7 8 minutes ago, Illusi0n said: This is unhinged. He's out-streaming now because of clout, just like Meg with Nicki. The end results will be clear and you can bookmark it. Drake is outstreaming thanks to frequent releases and riding other black ethnic groups and cultures aesthetic. Now that Drake is forced to rap from his own perspective with the help of his sweat shop, he's not pulling in the same numbers and is down 4 for 4. And now he's being bodied by a catchy enough diss track that's #1 on Spotify Global that he even said he liked. It's being played on ESPN. Being analyzed by professors and legal analysts. The Young Money roster is truly nothing without the machine and hiding behind numbers to overcompensate for mediocrity and questionable behavior against women and minors. 5 2
Illusi0n Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Just now, punisher said: as i said in the og post "and has been" Oops! Missed that part. Anyways, point still stands and both artists will be just fine coming out from this, it definitely is getting them both to sell more records! Which is the true motivation for the beef
Illusi0n Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Just now, Dreajae said: The Young Money roster is truly nothing without the machine and hiding behind numbers to overcompensate for mediocrity and questionable behavior against women and minors. TRULY unhinged. This forum is an…interesting place.
Green Posted May 7 Posted May 7 31 minutes ago, legendofthetour said: UMG need to start making calls, how can they let a song calling the guy they just paid $400M all these inappropriate names be breaking records and going #1?? What's going on here ?? the fear
BnPac Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 minute ago, Illusi0n said: And is that because of the beef or is it regularly out streaming all of them? I don't understand why you act like Kendrick is not incredibly successful. He has two of the longest charting albums on BB 200. And the comparison to Remy Ma makes very little sense. OT : It's surprising that Drake is losing at the numbers' game. I would have never imagined it. Although a huge Kendrick's fan, I also like Drake although I don't follow him too much and don't know much about him tbh, I hope things don't go too much south. 1
JBJT2786 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 9 minutes ago, Illusi0n said: Not a Drake stan at all, so not quite sure where you interpreted that, and never once did I imply Kendrick is an underground artist. We're on a pop forum full of teenage gays that know nothing about rap or rap beefs. You all jump to conclusions because of immediate results without considering the bigger picture. You're the one on here assuming we all here not into Rap like we can't be into other genres than basic ass pop. A bunch of us were kids when Jayz and Nas beefed and know the history of the Biggie and Tupac. You need to stfu and stop getting foot in mouth disease spewing bs up and down this thread. And this is coming from someone is a fan of both artists. The numbers isn't the most important in this beef but it's insane K.Dot is beating the 6 God in biggest lane currently. 1
4th Time Around Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Imagine getting dethroned by a song calling you a pedophile Congrats to King Kendrick
FSXP Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 hour ago, Illusi0n said: Good for him, but let's see how his music performs compared to Drake's after he's done using Drake's name for clout Bro, this is Kendrick Lamar what do you mean? He's literally the most successful rapper after Drake of his generation. 2
Illusi0n Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Just now, BnPac said: I don't understand why you act like Kendrick is not incredibly successful. He has two of the longest charting albums on BB 200. And the comparison to Remy Ma makes very little sense. I never once said that so I'm not sure where you're getting that. The point is that everyone saying Drake is over because of Kendrick winning is beyond delusional, because Drake will be back to out-streaming Kendrick, as he was before, and will come out 100% untouched.
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted May 7 ATRL Administrator Posted May 7 Screaming. Not resorting to stats like this is a pop girl discussion. Nas’ “Ether” is iconic because of what he did to Jay Z. That didn’t stop Jay Z from being an extremely successful rapper but Nas won the war. Trying to analyze rap beefs in the context of pop girl discussion is lame . It’s not about “ending” someone’s success, it’s about the battle — the war of words, stepping up your pen game, for the culture. 10
JBJT2786 Posted May 7 Posted May 7 4 minutes ago, Illusi0n said: TRULY unhinged. This forum is an…interesting place. Then stop posting you only been here 2 weeks with all these accusations. Probably a dupe account
Illusi0n Posted May 7 Posted May 7 1 minute ago, FSXP said: Bro, this is Kendrick Lamar what do you mean? He's literally the most successful rapper after Drake of his generation. My point, exactly.
Dreajae Posted May 7 Posted May 7 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Illusi0n said: Oops! Missed that part. Anyways, point still stands and both artists will be just fine coming out from this, it definitely is getting them both to sell more records! Which is the true motivation for the beef So you went from trying to son Kendrick as if he was a Pusha, Remy or Meek and had all these excuses for his numbers and accolades, to waiving the flag as "both" being fine. We'll see. But as of now Drake and UMG are the ones in a crisis management and have have already started utilizing their outlets to attack. They've been doing it since Like That stuck. And that didn't work cause Kendrick, Future and Metro are big enough artists who have Diamond selling records and albums that stand on their own without Drake. He cannot straight bully and blackball this time. Edited May 7 by Dreajae
FSXP Posted May 7 Posted May 7 Just now, Illusi0n said: My point, exactly. No, you was actin like Kendrick can't do numbers without Drake when he's put up numbers that have competed with and even surpassed him at points. That's why Drake can't get out of this one. Kendrick got the numbers just like him. 5
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