Communion Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Quote According to the network, the proposals in the plan included: Immediate international and UN recognition of a Palestinian state. Provision of full protection and funding to Palestinian refugee agency UNRWA. A complete withdrawal of the IDF from Gaza within three weeks of the inception of a ceasefire. Full transfer of governmental authority in Gaza to the Palestinian Authority and the entry of PA forces into Gaza with international assistance. International assistance in building security mechanisms for the Palestinian Authority along with the installment of UN peacekeeping forces in Gaza, the West Bank and East Jerusalem based on a resolution to be passed by the UN Security Council. Full implementation of all previous agreements between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, including deals struck in recent years in Aqaba and Sharm el-Sheikh. Launching negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, to be completed within 180 days, in tandem with the release of all Palestinian prisoners from Israeli jails. The transfer of Israeli authority at Gaza and West Bank border crossings to the Palestinian Authority with international supervision. The convening of an international donor conference to raise funds for the Palestinian Authority. The establishment of a regional security plan together with the US to ensure the security of Israel and the eventual Palestinian state. Quote The report said the US provided a detailed response to the proposal, effectively rejecting it entirely. Of particular concern to the US was that the plan did not mention the eradication of Hamas- https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-us-rejected-proposed-plan-by-pa-arab-nations-for-palestinian-statehood/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loml Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Why the US have a say bout this? Can someone explain thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post byzantium Posted May 6 Popular Post Share Posted May 6 This is in line with Joe Biden's goal to murder every single Palestinian. A two state solution would only complicate his desire to murder children. 23 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byzantium Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 33 minutes ago, loml said: Why the US have a say bout this? Can someone explain thank you I don't know the specifics of this proposal but it looks like the UN would be involved and I think that would require the U.S. to stop vetoing every pro-Palestinian resolution. Also, at a practical level, the U.S. is a party to this conflict. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassi Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 52 minutes ago, loml said: Why the US have a say bout this? Can someone explain thank you The US doesn't directly have a say on the terms but acts as a mediator in the negotiations. The Palestinian Authority brings their demands for a two-state solution, which the US then presents to Israel. Israel, in turn, formulates its own demands. From this articles, it looks like the US doesn't think it can sell that plan to Israel. 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannafan Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 39 minutes ago, Kassi said: The US doesn't directly have a say on the terms but acts as a mediator in the negotiations. 10 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautiful player Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Quote Of particular concern to the US was that the plan did not mention the eradication of Hamas- That's fair. Eradicate the terrorist group first. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted May 6 ATRL Administrator Share Posted May 6 4 hours ago, Communion said: Of particular concern to the US was that the plan did not mention the eradication of Hamas- This is why content is extremely important. What’s the point of trying to sell a deal if the literal terrorist group responsible for the Palestinians being slaughtered is still in control? 2 1 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rihannafan Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ryan said: This is why content is extremely important. What's the point of trying to sell a deal if the literal terrorist group responsible for the Palestinians being slaughtered is still in control? IDF will not actually be in control if the deal passes Can you please bring Jjang back? Edited May 6 by rihannafan 13 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted May 6 ATRL Administrator Share Posted May 6 6 minutes ago, rihannafan said: IDF will not actually be in control if the deal passes Can you please bring Jjang back? Is Hamas not the terrorist group that started this latest conflict? 2 1 2 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rihannafan Posted May 6 Popular Post Share Posted May 6 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ryan said: Is Hamas not the terrorist group that started this latest conflict? What is this latest conflict? First of all its a genocide, and palestinians have been killed since before Hamas existed. And hundreds of palestinians died before October 7 in 2023 alone. Can you answer my question about Jjang? There is 0 excuse for banning him that doesn't come off as insanely discriminatory. https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/palestinians-west-bank-2023-was-deadliest-year-record#:~:text=Even before Hamas' attack on,responsible for nine more killings. Edited May 6 by rihannafan 26 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted May 6 ATRL Administrator Share Posted May 6 18 minutes ago, rihannafan said: Can you answer my question about Jjang? There is 0 excuse for banning him that doesn't come off as insanely discriminatory. No. I addressed this in HQ already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingWitch Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 I think them not mentioning how they'll get rid of the terrorist organization that is Hamas should be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GraceRandolph Posted May 6 Popular Post Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, KingWitch said: I think them not mentioning how they'll get rid of the terrorist organization that is Hamas should be addressed. If they wanted to get rid of Hamas they would've brought in special ops from the start. Starving children and invading Rafah has **** all to do with October 7th, it's been clear for months the hostages/Hamas was just an excuse. They targeted US based aid workers in a clearly marked van and let babies rot in incubators. This is ethnic cleansing. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirious Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) @jjan 1 hour ago, rihannafan said: IDF will not actually be in control if the deal passes Can you please bring Jjang back? Who's @jjang? Why does their name sound so familiar Edit: oop nvm it's that user lol. Good riddance Edited May 6 by Delirious 3 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIDDOATIN Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 YIKES I guess America juat have to let TRUMP Win to prove a point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Aurora Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Mess after mess. I hate this situation so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post State of Grace. Posted May 6 Popular Post Share Posted May 6 4 hours ago, Ryan said: This is why content is extremely important. What's the point of trying to sell a deal if the literal terrorist group responsible for the Palestinians being slaughtered is still in control? That's the IOF, not Hamas babes You claiming that you support a Free Palestine and posting this is.... 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) Ah yeah the typical crowd is here acting like you're not allowed to criticize anything but Israel and failure to do so means you want all Palestinians dead. But what to expect from people who justified Hamas killing over a thousand civilians and kidnapping hundreds because "what else could they do" Israel is very clearly in the wrong the past months and so is the US for enabling it by sending aid, but that doesn't mean Hamas is not the one who initiated the 10/07 attack. So yes, people asking where the irradiation of Hamas is, is a valid question. Edited May 6 by Gaia 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted May 6 ATRL Administrator Share Posted May 6 20 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: That's the IOF, not Hamas babes You claiming that you support a Free Palestine and posting this is.... Because I acknowledge that Hamas provoked this? It doesn’t negate the atrocities the IDF have committed in the past and continues to do so. Multiple things can be true at once. I don’t care if you refuse it see it that way. The terrorist attack on 10/7 was committed by Hamas. The Israeli government knew it was going to happen and did nothing to stop it, thus giving them the “rationale” to go and commit war crimes and genocide on the Palestinians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.X Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 hours ago, beautiful player said: That's fair. Eradicate the terrorist group first. Hamas is a resistance group against a genocidal state. The only terrorists are Israel and the USA. Long live the resistance against terrorism 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.X Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 14 minutes ago, Gaia said: Ah yeah the typical crowd is here acting like you're not allowed to criticize anything but Israel and failure to do so means you want all Palestinians dead. But what to expect from people who justified Hamas killing over a thousand civilians and kidnapping hundreds because "what else could they do" Israel is very clearly in the wrong the past months and so is the US for enabling it by sending aid, but that doesn't mean Hamas is not the one who initiated the 10/07 attack. So yes, people asking where the irradiation of Hamas is, is a valid question. Israel has been wrong for 75 years babe. It forced BY BLOODSHED a state on top of an already existing native people and has continuously killed, enslaved and harrassed them ever since. What Hamas did was horrible, for sure. But it is nothing compared to the terrorism of Israel. Long live Palestine and the resistance against zionism. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hurem Posted May 6 Popular Post Share Posted May 6 4 hours ago, Ryan said: What's the point of trying to sell a deal if the literal terrorist group responsible for the Palestinians being slaughtered is still in control? 4 hours ago, Ryan said: Is Hamas not the terrorist group that started this latest conflict? I'm kinda taken aback that you'd post something like this, since you're usually well spoken on sensitive issues This extreme simplification of what's happening in Gaza is nothing more than spin meant to shift the blame from Israel to the Palestinians (even though you say Hamas). The only ones to blame for the slaughter of Palestinians are those slaughtering them. 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Ryan said: Because I acknowledge that Hamas provoked this? It doesn't negate the atrocities the IDF have committed in the past and continues to do so. Multiple things can be true at once. I don't care if you refuse it see it that way. The terrorist attack on 10/7 was committed by Hamas. The Israeli government knew it was going to happen and did nothing to stop it, thus giving them the "rationale" to go and commit war crimes and genocide on the Palestinians. Hamas did not provoke this when **** has been going on for 75 years. Palestinians have been murdered and ethnically cleansed for years before Oct 7th at the hands of the IOF. What Hamas did was horrible, but it also was resistance violence in retaliation to decades of occupation. And it wasn't even a tiny fraction of what Palestinians have been through. Downplaying all of this to "Well Hamas provoked Israel and thus they're the responsible for the ongoing genocide" is crazy. There's only one terrorist group/state to blame and its the IOF and Israel. Edited May 6 by State of Grace. 11 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides Now Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 hours ago, Ryan said: Is Hamas not the terrorist group that started this latest conflict? The IDF killed 234 Palestinians in the West Bank in 2023 prior to October 7th. Settler terrorist killed an additional 9 people. At least 38 of these were children. The "conflict" has been a daily occurrence for Palestinians for decades. Just nobody cared. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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