ithinkheknowsoutsold Posted May 3 Posted May 3 35 minutes ago, Dialamba said: This is basically the review : Despite her omnipresence in luxury brand campaigns and media, she remains distant, refusing to trade on her private life for intrigue. Her previous albums showcased her evolution as an artist, from the thrusting nightclub staples of her self-titled debut to the focused disco reverie of "Future Nostalgia." Despite moments of elegance, the album as a whole struggles to find its footing, with lyrics often skirting depth and intimacy. Lipa's persona as a savvy, controlled artist is evident, but it leaves listeners wanting more substance and emotional connection. It's clear the reason why the album is panned is because dua is safe and has no controversy, so there's nothing to talk about it. I don't think it's fair to drag her for this but critics and the GP what authenticity and relatability. Dua is the purr epitome of what's a pop star. You only need controversy when the music itself is not anything to write home about. 1
Kimi Posted May 3 Posted May 3 7 hours ago, Cloröx said: TFM and BTW barely made it into year-end or decade-end lists so both albums won't score higher than 85. They are not like Red, 1989, Emotion or Anti you sound dumb af, if chromatica is 79, and is by no means vied as better or even equal to tf tfm and btw then her more respected records are obviously above that, around 85 at least. and how could tfm made it into year or decade end lists when those lists were published before the record got released. also are you forgetting that bts is on all time list 1
Kimi Posted May 3 Posted May 3 7 minutes ago, Rev8 said: Who is talking about critic scores? Those changed mid-2010s I am talking about how she was receiving major awards right from her debut era she was literally being nominated for the Big awards of the Grammys, winning left and right notice I said Poptimism was evident during her time but it was most noticeable during Taylor's 1989 (which is why some attribute it to her) girl 1989 has like 76 on mc, poptimism started getting strong around 2016-2017. if it wasn't for rerecordings folklore evermore and midnights would be her only acclaimed albums.
thatsmydemi Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Some of the comments I'm reading here though... an album in the 70s is still acclaimed, especially if it's between 75-79. 1 1
Raspberries Posted May 3 Posted May 3 4 hours ago, playwithme said: TTPD got some ridiculously high scores like 100 from RS simply because of her name. TTPD is the definition of being reductive and dull. At least, RO has some bangers like Watcha Doing. There's not a single song with replay value on TTPD. It deserved to be in the low 60s. The worst album of the year. At least TTPD has something to say with a lot of the songs. These Dua songs could be AI they're so lifeless 5 2
Rev8 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Just now, Kimi said: girl 1989 has like 76 on mc, poptimism started getting strong around 2016-2017. if it wasn't for rerecordings folklore evermore and midnights would be her only acclaimed albums. Why are yall so obsessed with critic scores? I literally did say that those started improving further down the line Pop works Still started receiving praise,awards and overall acknowledgment from the public all the way from the mid 00s at least. ofc pop stars wouldn't suddenly become the most critically acclaimed acts on earth, but the change Was felt during Gaga's time. While a decade before, pop stars were criticized for their works (which eventually became influential classics and we all wonder how they have 55 MC score (Stripped) but some new meh albums that will be forgotten in 5 years, has 70+ and even 80+ score) Gaga's main criticism was her strange image. It perfectly coincides with the Pop Wave of the late00s/early10s too, which is logical The praise just kept growing afterwards for pop (despite the wave slowing down and totally disappearing at one point) 1989 literally won Album of the Year at the Grammys (along with other award shows) how wasn't it acclaimed? Poptimism dying IS kind of good..since the drop in quality is Felt these days. +the amount of times I see "instant classic" on albums that I wouldn't even remember a year from now (when I love listening to these pop girls and have always been a fan of them)
Jay07 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 They really released the best songs as singles from this didn't they? And even those weren't that great. Oof. 2
playwithme Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Just now, Raspberries said: At least TTPD has something to say with a lot of the songs. These Dua songs could be AI they're so lifeless "something to say" = regurgitating the same topics with each of her albums with cringeworthy lyrics It's OK for albums to be abstracted away from an artist's personal life. I don't care about your latest D or your yearslong "feud" with Kim K that literally no one wants to stir up again. "Look What You Made Me Do" was cute, but bringing up this up after almost a decade is beyond desperate. Your music is not supposed to constantly centered about your private life. I just want some catchy pop bops. The main issue with Radical Optimism is that it lacks great hooks to make this album memorable. Apart from a few tracks, the album is pretty mediocre and forgettable. TTPD feels like Tay just reading some word salad gibberish over dull reductive instrumentals from Antonoff. 9 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted May 3 Posted May 3 6 minutes ago, Jay07 said: They really released the best songs as singles from this didn't they? And even those weren't that great. Oof. Not at all. End of an Era, these walls, watcha doin, Maria, falling forever, anything for love all **** on Training Season and Illusion and show way more progression as an artist than TS or Illusion would've let on
Jay07 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Falling Forever is the first decent song other than the singles. All the others were boring skips.
Redstreak Posted May 3 Posted May 3 4 hours ago, playwithme said: TTPD got some ridiculously high scores like 100 from RS simply because of her name. TTPD is the definition of being reductive and dull. At least, RO has some bangers like Watcha Doing. There's not a single song with replay value on TTPD. It deserved to be in the low 60s. The worst album of the year. I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment in 2024 if the only thing you can engage with musically are "bops"
playwithme Posted May 3 Posted May 3 4 minutes ago, Redstreak said: I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment in 2024 if the only thing you can engage with musically are "bops" Not really. It seems like Billie's new album is going to be chock-full of bops based on the recent snippets. 1
Raspberries Posted May 3 Posted May 3 23 minutes ago, playwithme said: "something to say" = regurgitating the same topics with each of her albums with cringeworthy lyrics It's OK for albums to be abstracted away from an artist's personal life. I don't care about your latest D or your yearslong "feud" with Kim K that literally no one wants to stir up again. "Look What You Made Me Do" was cute, but bringing up this up after almost a decade is beyond desperate. Your music is not supposed to constantly centered about your private life. I just want some catchy pop bops. The main issue with Radical Optimism is that it lacks great hooks to make this album memorable. Apart from a few tracks, the album is pretty mediocre and forgettable. TTPD feels like Tay just reading some word salad gibberish over dull reductive instrumentals from Antonoff. It's absolutely okay for songs not to be personal. But that is literally Dua Lipa's entire catalog of music. There's no personality. SHE has no personality. This album may as well be a collection of songs thrown together by AI. Even Katy Perry music was more personal than this and had more to say, and that is saying something TTPD is too wordy and she needs an editor. But at least there's personality there and connections to be made. The same cannot be said for Radical Optimism 3 1
Karla Cabello Posted May 3 Posted May 3 idgaf about personality if the music sounds good, but here the only good song is houdini....
Jay07 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 8 minutes ago, Raspberries said: It's absolutely okay for songs not to be personal. But that is literally Dua Lipa's entire catalog of music. There's no personality. SHE has no personality. This album may as well be a collection of songs thrown together by AI. Even Katy Perry music was more personal than this and had more to say, and that is saying something TTPD is too wordy and she needs an editor. But at least there's personality there and connections to be made. The same cannot be said for Radical Optimism The connections are for the mega fans that sit on twitter 24/7 to obsessively unpack every detail of her personal life and can connect a song to a random 1975 song from years ago. It's literally giving The problem with Radical Optimism is not the lack of (hyper) specificity. 90% of pop music is generic love songs and breakup songs because those themes are universal. It just lacks hooks and exciting moments. I was shocked most of it is midtempo after the singles. 1 1 1 1
Redstreak Posted May 3 Posted May 3 28 minutes ago, playwithme said: Not really. It seems like Billie's new album is going to be chock-full of bops based on the recent snippets. So was ES and how is that holding up with the public only a month and a half later?
playwithme Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Just now, Redstreak said: So was ES and how is that holding up with the public only a month and a half later? ES is not exactly full of bops, but it is a very solid album with a well-deserved 84 points on MC. It has decent streams and two #1s. Based on the snippets, I think that HMHAS will surpass it in quality though, but it's too early to say.
Raspberries Posted May 3 Posted May 3 24 minutes ago, Jay07 said: The connections are for the mega fans that sit on twitter 24/7 to obsessively unpack every detail of her personal life and can connect a song to a random 1975 song from years ago. It's literally giving Which is more than we can say about Dua Lipa and her no personality and the lack of interest in her as a celebrity
Tm4074 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 40 minutes ago, Redstreak said: So was ES and how is that holding up with the public only a month and a half later? Huh? ES hasn't left the top 3 most streamed albums on Global Spotify since release despite several major albums being released after it. It is currently #2 behind TTPD so I would say it's holding up just fine. 4
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