NoName Posted April 26 Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Rep2000 said: which would explain the 8k daily streams for the Billie Jean of Soccer, yes? /s You can hmmm the melody of Go West to practically any straight male outside of the US young or old and they'll know it. It's super famous. And West End Girls too. 2 1
Movimento Perpétuo Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Lemme stream the CLASSICS It's a Sin, Domino Dancing and West End Girls asap Not everyone has that 1 5
sweetkiss Posted April 26 Posted April 26 he didn't lie, because most of her famous songs are just for children (shake it off and we are never ever getting back together), its not "billie jean" but same can be said for katy perry 1 4
Miley Cyrus Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) oh king spilled it's just mass buying anyways she's the western equivalent of k-pop artists don't cry swifties Edited April 26 by Miley Cyrus 7 1 7
OnikaSlays Posted April 26 Posted April 26 (edited) They spilled. Most legendary acts have those one or few songs that are universally known. I feel like Taylor hasn't gotten that yet, no shade. Maybe Love Story is the closest contender. I always think of that one video where they were asking some black athletes to name their favorite Taylor Swift song and most of them couldn't even name one, so yeah… Edited April 26 by OnikaSlays 3 1
Taylena Posted April 26 Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Miley Cyrus said: oh king spilled it's just mass buying anyways she's the western equivalent of k-pop artists don't cry swifties Does mass buying apply to streaming too, dear Miley Cyrus?
CécredSpaces Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Bey'Knight said: I guess her reach isn't trans-generational but her popularity is certainly bolstered by marketing manipulations. She's essentially released two albums n the numbers are being touted like it's a standard release. As days go by, Im more concerned about her psyche. The more I decipher, the more disturbing it is. Maybe the reason she's hellbent on outdoing herself commercially is because she never reaches the high she craves in her relationships. I really think Taylor would benefit immensely from intensive therapy sessions. She has a very cultish view of therapy. She's never had any therapist check in on her. Her mother acts as her therapist. And because her mother benefits from her financially, it's against her interests to get her daughter real, tangible help. It's quite sad. 2 1 2
TipToe Posted April 26 Posted April 26 I personally can only recall of Shake It Off and am not familiar with her music even tho i gave it some listens. It just doesn't stick for me, not my cup of tea. PSB in the other hand has instant classiques, i love them. 3
eleganceislearned Posted April 26 Posted April 26 32 minutes ago, sweetkiss said: he didn't lie, because most of her famous songs are just for children (shake it off and we are never ever getting back together), its not "billie jean" but same can be said for katy perry Katy has Teenage Dream 1 hour ago, Khris said: is it? Lol What about Driver's License? Bad Guy by Billie Eilish? Sunflower by Post Malone? Literally any SZA song?| Just because Taylor doesn't have such a song, some of them decided no one does, lol. 1
sweetkiss Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Just now, eleganceislearned said: Katy has Teenage Dream Just because Taylor doesn't have such a song, some of them decided no one does, lol. im a pop fanatic, ill be truthful idk teenage dream, of top of my head, but sounds childish, i know hot n cold, i kissed a girl, firework
4Real Posted April 26 Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Khris said: is it? Lol What about Driver's License? Bad Guy by Billie Eilish? Sunflower by Post Malone? Literally any SZA song?| Shake It Off is as known as any of these songs
More Than A Melody Posted April 26 Posted April 26 3 hours ago, Espresso said: Billie Jean and Vogue were released at the peak of the vinyl era, Crazy in Love and Toxic were released at the peak of the CD and TRL era, and Umbrella and We Found Love were released at the peak of the downloads era. I get some of what you're arguing to an extent, but they're not fair comparisons. Taylor doesn't have a Blinding Lights, Stay, Flowers, As It Was, Levitating all hits from the streaming era. She has a lot of big hits, particularly in America, but she doesn't have a huge defining hit that everyone knows because it was so inescapable you had to move to another planet not to be bombarded with at least the chorus once in a while. And imo, that's because in her gargantuan era she's not releasing music that way. She releases whole albums at the same time, and this time around, 31 songs. It's really hard for one song to become so ubiquitous when so much of her album is so consumed. I'm sure if she did lead singles she had a great shot at having a massive one, but well, she doesn't. What works in her detriment is the other part of what they mention in the interview which is that she doesn't really do memorable melodies. I think she definitely did in the past, Cruel Summer is a memorable melody (and I think it would've become her defining hit had she released it as a lead single of Lover), but right now she's doing understated low-key synth melodies and that's never gonna become this massive memorable thing. In terms of the criticism of "PSB doesn't have a Billie Jean" idk, is he claiming they do? I don't think you have to necessarily have that type of hit to point out that Taylor doesn't. And for the record, they don't. West End Girls was massive, but I think it was massive in the same way Shake It Off was massive, where it doesn't become ubiquitous. It's a huge hit, but it's "escapable" a lot of people will have not heard that song, particularly outside of anglo countries. 3 1
QueenB Posted April 26 Posted April 26 you belong with me, love story, blank space, and maybe style are huge hits everyone knows (id name more too but People need to stop lying in here 1 1
Tortured Poet Posted April 26 Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, ?????? said: the OTH cesspool in here... Insane how they are spewing lies and deluding themselves into believing them.. Taylor always gets the last laugh
LaFuerza Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Taylor Swift is a cult leader, and she's brainwashed her fanbase into worshiping everything she releases even if it's subpar. Nothing wrong with that. She's great at it, and she's successful. Sure, none of her singles have had that much of a cultural impact. Who cares though? Why does this guy have to point it out and bring it to our awareness? 3 1
Strawberry Bubble Posted April 26 Posted April 26 15 minutes ago, LaFuerza said: Taylor Swift is a cult leader, and she's brainwashed her fanbase into worshiping everything she releases even if it's subpar. Nothing wrong with that. She's great at it, and she's successful. Sure, none of her singles have had that much of a cultural impact. Who cares though? Why does this guy have to point it out and bring it to our awareness? Their new album drops tomorrow with an expected 10k streams in the first week, so they need promo 3 3
Storm653 Posted April 26 Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, LaFuerza said: Taylor Swift is a cult leader, and she's brainwashed her fanbase into worshiping everything she releases even if it's subpar. Nothing wrong with that. She's great at it, and she's successful. Sure, none of her singles have had that much of a cultural impact. Who cares though? Why does this guy have to point it out and bring it to our awareness? 1 minute ago, Strawberry Bubble said: Their new album drops tomorrow with an expected 10k streams in the first week, so they need promo Hopefully, ATRL will stream their new album enough to go number 1 for speaking the truth about Taylor and how she apparently has no timeless hit whatsoever despite being on track to have the highest grossing music tour.
Iñakifan Posted April 26 Posted April 26 Such a funny thread. Denial really is the longest of the 5 stages, huh? 1
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