charts discussion Billboard: TTPD sold 1.4M pure sales first day in the US

[Ms. Togekiss]

Just now, NEX said:

Looking at this number I would say no if it includes the bulk of pre-orders. Today's sales are far more frontloaded. She will still sell very well for the rest of the week, but not enough to close the gap or come anywhere close to that number

it IS RSD today so maybe she will move more vinyls on the second day compared to 1989 tv and midnights, but you are right. There is no way of closing the 1.5m gap to 25

[cat1867]

Just now, RobynYoBank said:

It really depends how many preorders are left to be shipped. Recall that 1989 TV only logged 250,000 copies by Luminate on the first day of release even though we now know preorders were approximately 850,000.

I think mailing has improved so there won't be as many delayed as during 1989 tv where the USA was still in the mailing crisis.

[Walk_Away21]

Thank you Clara Bow

[Trainwreck]

[Cruel Summer]

I would cautiously, tentatively estimate that she's pretty much set for 2.5m+ units if the shipment and consumption pattern for this week is relatively similar to Midnights, based on the fact that Billboard reported 800k pure sales in the US on day one for Midnights and I'd guess it had a little bit less SEA.

 

Just completely insane.

[RobynYoBank]

2 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

I think mailing has improved so there won't be as many delayed as during 1989 tv where the USA was still in the mailing crisis.

I suspect her team is doing it on purpose to obscure sales since almost all go through her website now, to be honest. But I guess we'll see.

[Saintlor]

7 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

Absolutely. If anything, the goal should now be to cross 2M total units. We knew 30 was unreachable anyway due to the state of the market

I was always hoping in the back of my mind that she'd do it  

[Carry My Heart]

@Trainwreck might be a good idea to add "pure" to the title so there's no confusion with SPS figures 

[family.guy123]

First day or first 2.5 months? If first day, I don't see how the ADELE record is even in question. She's guaranteed to beat it.

[Trainwreck]

Just now, Carry My Heart said:

@Trainwreck might be a good idea to add "pure" to the title so there's no confusion with SPS figures 

ooooh, on it right now!

[Trainwreck]

corrected, it was 1.4m pure sales

[Cruel Summer]

Just now, Trainwreck said:

corrected, it was 1.4m pure sales

Her biggest week ever… after one day

 

[Hunter_13]

1.6M units in a day....wow 

[Ms. Togekiss]

2 minutes ago, Carry My Heart said:

Yeah, it'll grow rapidly during the week. They reported 250K pure sold for 1989 TV's first day back in October and that ended up with 1.3M pure by the end of the week, so... 

i dont think so, keep mind that the 1989 tv roll out in terms of shipping copies was a whole mess, and it looks like they got it under control now like @cat1867said

4 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

I think mailing has improved so there won't be as many delayed as during 1989 tv where the USA was still in the mailing crisis.

 

2 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

I would cautiously, tentatively estimate that she's pretty much set for 2.5m+ units if the shipment and consumption pattern for this week is relatively similar to Midnights, based on the fact that Billboard reported 800k pure sales in the US on day one for Midnights and I'd guess it had a little bit less SEA.

 

Just completely insane.

i think she can sell another 400k pure copies at most, with 450k units in SEA so im predicting a 1.8-2.3M SPS debut

[Ms. Togekiss]

3 minutes ago, family.guy123 said:

First day or first 2.5 months? If first day, I don't see how the ADELE record is even in question. She's guaranteed to beat it.

the article says that it counts pre orders that were shipped so that they would be delivered on release day, so it does not count all of the pre orders, but most likely the majority of them

[Cruel Summer]

2 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

i dont think so, keep mind that the 1989 tv roll out in terms of shipping copies was a whole mess, and it looks like they got it under control now like @cat1867said

 

i think she can sell another 400k pure copies at most, with 450k units in SEA so im predicting a 1.8-2.3M SPS debut

Remember the total SPS is already 1.6m - it's a little buried in the article. It could certainly be that the vast majority of sales are already counted, but unless there's a serious streaming collapse, I would say the 2m mark is locked.

[Swirl900]

This is INCREDIBLE Us from 2019 would have never believed

 

2 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

i dont think so, keep mind that the 1989 tv roll out in terms of shipping copies was a whole mess, and it looks like they got it under control now like @cat1867said

 

i think she can sell another 400k pure copies at most, with 450k units in SEA so im predicting a 1.8-2.3M SPS debut

I'm going to predict 2m pure, 2.5m SPS

[wastedpotential]

The article is very very specific in that this figure only includes pre-ordered copies that have been shipped and delivered. Taylor's team can work herculean feats, and there are probably hundreds of people working on this, but this number is probably the max they could feasibly get shipped and delivered for the first day (there are literally more copies here than there are mail carriers in the US...), and is not the total number of pre-sales 

Edited April 21 by wastedpotential

[umich]

No words.

 

[Trainwreck]

6 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Her biggest week ever… after one day

 

MEHnights could never omg

[aotearoa]

I don't think it includes her website sales… it's confusing

[Cruel Summer]

The fact that we're basically splitting hairs now about how much bigger this will be than her previous biggest weeks, "her" already being the only person to ever have 4, 5, and 6 weeks over a million units in the US

 

[family.guy123]

All these people. Listening to the same 31 songs at the same time. I'm flabbergasted 

[NEX]

7 minutes ago, Ms. Togekiss said:

i dont think so, keep mind that the 1989 tv roll out in terms of shipping copies was a whole mess, and it looks like they got it under control now like @cat1867said

 

i think she can sell another 400k pure copies at most, with 450k units in SEA so im predicting a 1.8-2.3M SPS debut

Shouldn't SEA be higher with 800m first week streams that hdd is predicting? 

[Ms. Togekiss]

1 minute ago, wastedpotential said:

The article is very very specific in that this figure only includes pre-ordered copies that have been shipped. Taylor's team can work herculean feats, and there are probably hundreds of people working on this, but this number is probably the max they could feasibly get shipped in one day, and is not the total number of pre-sales 

to be fair, i think it's rather rare for albums to be delivered right ON release day. I have ordered vinyls from her store before and they took a week or so to get to me and im in a major city. However, maybe her team anticipated the big increase in demand and prepared so that most of her pre orders were shipped and delivered on release day. Her final numbers will be very dependent on her team but also 1. did her team deliver a majority of the pre orders on Friday? 2. is her team deliberately withholding reporting some data so that her sales dont look as frontloaded (like what I think happened with 1989tv). 3. the rate at which luminate/billboard are filtering/registering sales (again, like with 1989 tv)