ImpressMeMuch Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) So, you all probably remember the backlash at beyonce for selling vinyls promising bonus tracks, only for them to that to be false plus the vinyls were outdated and missing tracks due to being printed a while back. Well, it seems like what was an accident for Beyonce became a strategy for miss Taylor as promised bonus tracks on various pre-order editions were included in the "surprise" Anthology release a mere two hours after release! Before fans even got their exclusive copies in the mail, the general public already had their hands on everything. Seems the only difference is Taylor had correct advertising but this froot looks familiar. Discuss! Edited April 19 by ImpressMeMuch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 having a "variant checklist" is wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) This vinyl discourse literally makes no sense. The album is released as a standard edition and double album edition. The standard edition was announced beforehand with the correct tracklist the anthology double album was a surprise release, it wasnt even previously announced to be a vinyl release so this isnt even a situation where "only half was released on physical copy". The physical copy for "TTPD: THE ANTHOLOGY" wasnt announced yet or doesnt exist in the first place. Edited April 19 by KatyPrismSpirit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalore Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) The fans get what they paid for and what was advertised in the store. No songs cut or missing. The 2nd part is a premeditated surprise, that no one was really entitled to having but she did it anyway and we're so thankful What you're doing is a logical fallacy called false equivalence. Trying to equate pressing isssues/russhed decisions with prolific songwriting surprise. Hope that helps! Edited April 19 by Mandalore 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 absolutely. most of her career moves since 1989 models after beyoncé formula. she just capitalized on it more than bey. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpressMeMuch Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said: This vinyl discourse literally makes no sense. The album is released as a standard edition and double album edition. The standard edition was announced beforehand with the correct tracklist the anthologist double album was a surprise release, it wasnt even previously announced to be a vinyl release so this isnt even a situation where "only half was released on physical copy". The physical copy for "TTPD: THE ALCHEMIST" wasnt announced yet or doesnt exist in the first place. The tweet is making the claim that tracks that were marked as bonus for vinyls or then included in the anthology also, it's anthology not alchemist lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappierJealousy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Devin said: absolutely. most of her career moves since 1989 models after beyoncé formula. she just capitalized on it more than bey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam13 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 minutes ago, Devin said: absolutely. most of her career moves since 1989 models after beyoncé formula. she just capitalized on it more than bey. it's actually beyonce since midnights, even the amc deal was the same OP: no. she's a capitalist, not a fraud. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpressMeMuch Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 6 minutes ago, Mandalore said: The fans get what they paid for and what was advertised in the store. No songs cut or missing. The 2nd part is a premeditated surprise, that no one was really entitled to having but she did it anyway and we're so thankful What you're doing is a logical fallacy called false equivalence. Trying to equate pressing isssues/russhed decisions with prolific songwriting surprise. Hope that helps! Oh, so you mean to say that Taylor is purposefully scamming her fans whereas beyonce did it on accident? @Devin thoughts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, ImpressMeMuch said: The tweet is making the claim that tracks that were marked as bonus for vinyls or then included in the anthology also, it's anthology not alchemist lol oops type correction. But yes they are still bonus tracks to the standard edition. fans purchased the product they saw beforehand and paid for. so its not a similar situation imo but i understand your point of view as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, liam13 said: it's actually beyonce since midnights, even the amc deal was the same renaissance dropped before midnights. and the film was in works long before taylor announced hers bffr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespertine Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 You're comparing a surprise double album to a vinyl with scrapped cover art that was clearly pressed before the album was finished under a different title Doesn't really compute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 She always copies Beyonce 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent W Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Maybe yes There was a lot of Beyonce in her Reputation era startegy Also Folklore and Evermore surprise drops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) The problem with Beyonce's release was that all of the websites that sell the album showed conflicting information on the tracklist for the physical album. It was misleading and uncharacteristic for Beyonce. Taylor has put out all of Midnights tracks on streaming including the standard songs, the 3AM tracks, the bonus song and the outtake/vault track. Nobody who bought the album thought they were gonna get some exclusive that will never make its way to the internet. All of the physical albums come with at least one bonus track so they weren't paying extra either. Edited April 19 by Illuminati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpressMeMuch Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Vespertine said: You're comparing a surprise double album to a vinyl with scrapped cover art that was clearly pressed before the album was finished under a different title Doesn't really compute. It's just funny how when it was beyonce certain people were quick to call her a scammer and cheap but when Taylor similarly makes bonus tracks accessible on release day it's a gift to the fans I wonder why they get judged differently!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Taylor Swift fans got EXACTLY what they purchased. Beyoncé fans have vinyls with the wrong artwork, missing tracks, and a QR code instead of actual tracklist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalore Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said: Oh, so you mean to say that Taylor is purposefully scamming her fans whereas beyonce did it on accident? @Devin thoughts? "logical fallacy", I'm saying you don't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuelve88 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Taylor's albums and their variants were always advertised correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truthteller Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) just wait until for the completed collection vinyl edition Edited April 19 by truthteller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 11 minutes ago, Devin said: absolutely. most of her career moves since 1989 models after beyoncé formula. she just capitalized on it more than bey. Like the AMC deal for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImpressMeMuch Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, Klein said: Taylor Swift fans got EXACTLY what they purchased. Beyoncé fans have vinyls with the wrong artwork, missing tracks, and a QR code instead of actual tracklist. Well yes usually when someone is inspired they aim to do even better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaggedGalaxy Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, ImpressMeMuch said: It's just funny how when it was beyonce certain people were quick to call her a scammer and cheap but when Taylor similarly makes bonus tracks accessible on release day it's a gift to the fans I wonder why they get judged differently!! These two situations are not similar at all, use your brain for once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam13 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, Devin said: renaissance dropped before midnights. and the film was in works long before taylor announced hers bffr. she shipped it to studios and streaming services and it got shipped back the deal she had with amc was a carbon copy "inspired" by taylor's too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klein Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said: Well yes usually when someone is inspired they aim to do even better! Well Taylor did the 3AM before Bey so now what? Edited April 19 by Klein 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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