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Will she finally move on from Jack Antonoff?

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Sputnik

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2 minutes ago, Moloko Plus said:

Quote me where I said I personally was "actually quite impressed by the work of her collaborators"

I never said you said that, I was making a kind of sarcastic inference based on your refusal to give a straight response to my question. 
 

1) I noted that people who complain about the quality of Bey's albums and say that Bey doesn't contribute never actually say anyone who actually worked on the album did a bad job, which doesn't make sense if they're the ones doing all the work. 

 

2) You said you never said they did a bad job. 

 

3) So I said, okay so how can the art/quality be bad if you're "quite impressed by them, which is me jokingly asking "ok so if you're not saying they did a bad job…what are you saying?" 

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I mean… I'm reading a lot of posts trying to take in both sides. But… I don't know what to say, it's just not a good album… and that's almost by definition. :rip:
 

Are there good songs? Absolutely.

 

But what 31 track full length 2 hour album wouldn't fall under its own weight? Drake couldn't pull it off, Chris Brown couldn't pull it off, not even any of the main pop girls could pull it off. It's almost impossible. Even on Cowboy Carter, at least 7 out of the 27 tracks are interludes.
 

Taylor set herself up for failure. It's like she tried to combine two album concepts into one and crossed her fingers that her personal life would act as the thread tying everything together.

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1 minute ago, Burn said:

Funnily enough I've noticed that a lot of the people initiating the Swifty/Hive fights are actually Little Monsters. :rip:

The nerve :rip: they don't even have a puppy in this fight, especially not with critical receptions of any album. 

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1 minute ago, Kassi said:

I mean… I'm reading a lot of posts trying to take in both sides. But… I don't know what to say, it's just not a good album… and that's almost by definition. :rip:
 

Are there good songs? Absolutely.

 

But what 31 track full length 2 hour album wouldn't fall under its own weight? Drake couldn't pull it off, Chris Brown couldn't pull it off, not even any of the main pop girls could pull it off. It's almost impossible. Even on Cowboy Carter, at least 7 out of the 27 tracks are interludes.
 

Taylor set herself up for failure. It's like she tried to combine two album concepts into one and crossed her fingers that her personal life would act as the thread tying everything together.

I dont know why, but u comparing her to Drake and Chris Brown in terms of quality makes me smile

 

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1 minute ago, Jay07 said:

Because you can't compare different industries, different award ceremonies and different voting bodies with different criteria. You can only compare the recipients of the same award of which Taylor has 4, more than all the women of color combined in the history of the ceremony. And that's what the people who work in the music industry think.

What the people who work in the music industry think is that the Taylor deserved to win all 4 of her AOTYs… because that's literally what they voted for. You personally may disagree with that result, but it's the outcome the members of the Recording Academy themselves decided. 

And this is the kind of respect Taylor commands from her musical peers that the producers behind the MCU flicks can't command from their respective film industry peers.

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Why are there 3 Sputnik reviews, and are they serious with that 1/10? That's so ridiculous :confused:

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Where are the people who said she buys good reviews?

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Well, at least this confirms she does not pay the critics.

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5 minutes ago, Jude said:

Well, at least this confirms she does not pay the critics.

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I beg to differ :suburban:

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Critics on both sides are doing entirely too much. On one hand, certain publications are going a bit overboard with the harshness of the criticism. But on the other hand, reviews like the RS one showcase exactly what's wrong with today's music journalism.

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what's so confusing to me is that Midnights is the album that deserved this lukewarm response :rip: anyway I've forced myself to like most of the album but hopefully this is what gets her to pick up where she left off on folkmore :clap3:

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This should've happened to Midnights, because I bet that album being acclaimed gave Taylor the preconceived notion that anything she touches will be treated like gold and removed any incentive for her to improve her craft like she did with Folklore. 

 

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Chromatica out-acclaimed :clap3:

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2 minutes ago, Wondy Lust said:

This should've happened to Midnights, because I bet that album being acclaimed gave Taylor the preconceived notion that anything she touches will be treated like gold and removed any incentive for her to improve her craft like she did with Folklore. 

 

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exactly exactly, which is a shame bc this is above midnights as far as my ranking of her albums go. 

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