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1 minute ago, Yog said:

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To be fair, they're pretty close in terms of rankings. The margin between Lover 1989 and reputation isn't that big. :bird:

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33 minutes ago, Klein said:

Crackhead energy or not, they're queens and I've yet to see anyone on Youtube with a knowledge on Taylor even close to them. 

 

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I'd argue Swiftologist is just as knowledgeable, possibly more 

 

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Just now, Klein said:

Deserved for these girls that spread nothing but positivity. Karma is the breathe in their hair on the weekend at the eras tour. 

 

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Their folklore reaction is a classic, iirc it was around the time they started their channel too. Midnights also was pretty funny, considering they were missing the point across the whole album because they couldn't sense the upcoming Joever. :dies:

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I don't understand this fandoms' obsession with getting a 2000s rock album. Her discography has a lot of rock adjacent songs and Speak Now TV is like half Rock influenced :michael:.

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Just now, Cleanromantic said:

I don't understand this fandoms' obsession with getting a 2000s rock album. Her discography has a lot of rock adjacent songs and Speak Now TV is like half Rock influenced :michael:.

Because rock is better than tired synth-pop or snoozefest indie folk :ryan3: 

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And they called off the circus

Burned the disco down

When they sent home the horses

And the rodeo clowns

I'm still on that tightrope

I'm still trying everything to get you laughing at me

I'm still a believer but I don't know why

I've never been a natural

All I do is try, try, try

I'm still on that trapeze

I'm still trying everything

To keep you looking at me 

 

I just want Clara Bow to be Mirrorball's and LGAD's daughter :chick3:

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7 minutes ago, Timeless said:

I'd argue Swiftologist is just as knowledgeable, possibly more 

 

Swiftologist is more knowledgeable but also more self-indulgent in his promotion of HIS interpretations and his subjective "insights" into the psyche of Taylor, her motives and her as a person. He's obviously a hardcore fan but the kind that crosses the line a little bit for me and starts making conjectures about her that he couldn't and shouldn't make because at the end of the day, he doesn't know her like that! Overall I still enjoy his content, even if I disagree with him a lot. 

 

Despite being "extra" I'd argue chatsandreacts are healthier in their engagement with Taylor content. You can tell they always leave that safe distance between them and Taylor as a person and enjoy her music for what it represents to them (just like anyone should) instead of as an entry gate into gossip/parasocial territory into her personal life and decisions. 

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37 minutes ago, Klein said:

And they are winning because they were in Melbourne yesterday, getting Red and You're Losing Me as surprise songs

 

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tea :heart: red her best midtempo i fear, youre losing me one of her best ballads!

 

any list without reputation at the bottom is invalid i fear, no wonder its labeled her flop era (and still is!), winner has cruel summer so itll always be a hit alberm! lwymmd payola'd flop lead single diamond eligible but i kno its jay z's nasty tidal streams doing the work!

 

1. RED TV (Stay 3x, Starlight and the 3 pop singles are STAINS but Better Man alone elevates this to #1)

2. 1989

3. Evermore

4. Folklore

5. Midnights

6. Fearless TV

7. Speak Now TV

8. Lover

9. Debut 

10. Reputation 

 

Her 5 best pop songs have to be: Cruel SUmmer, New Romantics, Is It Over Now?, Lavender Haze, and Delicate (in no particular order)

Her 5 best yeehaw songs have to be: IBYTAM, Better Man, Better than Revenge, Betty, The Way I Loved You (in no particular order)

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4 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said:

I don't understand this fandoms' obsession with getting a 2000s rock album. Her discography has a lot of rock adjacent songs and Speak Now TV is like half Rock influenced :michael:.

I do have to note that a lot of us in the “give us a rock album!” brigade don’t want anything even remotely like 2000s rock! Personally, I’d really rather a rock sound from her was influenced by known collaborators of hers like The National and what they’ve done in recent years, or like Fleetwood Mac’s sound in the late 70s. Those sounds feel like they work with her voice and aren’t already-explored territory for her, while something more contemporary and mainstream would feel a lot like something already done Speak Now. But also, for those who actually want exactly that, I think part of it is because Speak Now is still very highly regarded among fans.

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15 minutes ago, Mandalore said:

To be fair, they're pretty close in terms of rankings. The margin between Lover 1989 and reputation isn't that big. :bird:

I get, I could accept people picking midnights over Lover but HOLY89 is literally Taylor’s pop bible for an reason, it’s her most recognizable album to date

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8 minutes ago, Mandalore said:

Despite being "extra" I'd argue chatsandreacts are healthier in their engagement with Taylor content. You can tell they always leave that safe distance between them and Taylor as a person and enjoy her music for what it represents to them (just like anyone should) instead of as entry gate into gossip/parasocial territory into her personal life and decisions. 

I mean, Chats And Reacts LOVE to link any song they hear to one of her past relationships and love to speculate on who a song is about. They are just as obsessed with her personal/love life as Swiftologist. The only difference is that Swiftologist is not shy to be more critical of her, whereas Chats And Reacts is more positive.

I like both creators though they're by far the best Swiftie YouTubers. No one else compares really :1stplace:

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7 minutes ago, Timeless said:

I mean, Chats And Reacts LOVE to link any song they hear to one of her past relationships and love to speculate on who a song is about. They are just as obsessed with her personal/love life as Swiftologist. The only difference is that Swiftologist is not shy to be more critical of her, whereas Chats And Reacts is more positive.

I like both creators though they're by far the best Swiftie YouTubers. No one else compares really :1stplace:

Yeah they do, I mean everybody does but they just don't go beyond that. It's not really about criticism, even some of the "positive" things he says about her I can't help but roll my eyes at. :dies:

 

7 minutes ago, Yog said:

I get, I could accept people picking midnights over Lover but HOLY89 is literally Taylor’s pop bible for an reason, it’s her most recognizable album to date

It really is. I agree! But it's also her  vaguest/least Swiftian pop album in lyricism (on purpose and for good reason on her part) so for me it lacks that thing that makes her albums special. It gets more Swiftian with the vault songs though! :katie2:

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Opened the thread to Swiftologist praise. :gaycat7:

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Yeah, there is a difference between soft rock a la The National, which is welcome for her and angsty rock..

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I think the content of the album would be perfect for either soft rock or psychedelic rock.

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The 2000s type of rock has to be one of my least favorite genres of music that has ever existed. When I say I want TTPD to be rock, I mean Fleetwood Mac type of rock, or even Florence and the Machine type of rock. Give us another Rumours or another How Big, How Blue, How Beautiful :jonny5:

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22 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said:

I don't understand this fandoms' obsession with getting a 2000s rock album. Her discography has a lot of rock adjacent songs and Speak Now TV is like half Rock influenced :michael:.

we want something that has the same sound as WANEGBT 1989 tour version. she said lemme give yall a taste of banger then proceeded to hop on trendy sound with puta :rip:

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This reminds me of Midnights thread and people thinking it will be Carole King inspired alt rock 

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wait... taylor made many points i fear

 

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2 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

wait... taylor made many points i fear

 

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what do you know????

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2 hours ago, Sweeftie13 said:

Speaking my truth ...

1. Stay Stay Stay

2. ME!

3. Shake It off 

4. This is why we can't have nice things

5. It's nice to have a friend

6. Message in a bottle

7. I forgot that you existed 

8. Superman 

9. London Boy

10. Ours

have you decided to rank the worst songs she ever recorded and London Boy?

Posted
1 minute ago, MidnightsAtPeace said:

what do you know????

that i'd like to watch her and her man... 

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1 minute ago, RideOrDie said:

that i'd like to watch her and her man... 

well same :ryan3:

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6 minutes ago, RideOrDie said:

wait... taylor made many points i fear

 

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Don’t do this to this thread two months ahead. They will implode. :penguin:

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also let me give the REAL tea on her album ranking as an unbiased non swiftie

 

1. Reputation

2. Red

3. Lover

4. Speak Now

5. 1989

6. Evermore

7. Folklore*

8. Fearless

9. Midnights

10. Debut

 

take my hands swifties and listen to me about Lover. If you delete ME!th and YNTCD It's a perfect album.

 

*(y'all can come for me for that one, I'm kinda tastless on that, spoken word poetry over folk music is just not FOR ME personally)

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