mrpartyrocker Posted April 11 Posted April 11 59 minutes ago, Bloo said: Explain how they're that much different, especially greatest hits albums? They are rereleases of prior work to make extra coins. The Taylor rereleases include more new music than the average greatest hits record includes to promote the album. A greatest hits album includes songs from all albums + a few bonus ones. Taylor basically rereleased the same albums and tracks plus a few new songs and made money off it! There is a big difference! Let's agree to disagree. You live in your own bubble where whatever your fave does has good intentions and is not greedy! 1 1
Sombre Posted April 11 Posted April 11 She wouldn't have rejected it if it were $24+ millions, let's be real.
Blue Rose Posted April 11 Posted April 11 3 hours ago, The Music Industry said: Interesting considering other pop stars have no problem doing it for a quick buck. But trust ATRL to keep whining about how she's apparently the greediest artist alive simply because her stuff sells unlike others! She is not performing because she is greedy and wanted a bigger paycheck. PLEASE but no one is going to give her $40M because her performances are lackluster 1 1
Blue Rose Posted April 11 Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Taylena said: We know Taylor would never do that. She loves performing for her fans more than anything. She's not like certain other artists who would ignore human rights violations and stain her reputation receiving a payment with dirty oil money. Aren't Taylor and her jet single-handedly responsible for keeping the dirty oil guys' pockets full 2
Kill Me Posted April 11 Posted April 11 1 hour ago, mrpartyrocker said: Mate, she sells her own old albums and you call that "her job to make sure to promote" PROMOTE WHAT MORE SPECIFICALLY IF IT'S OLD MUSIC???? MAKE SENSE She REMAKES her own albums FROM SCRATCH. You make it seem like an effortless easy cash grab like the ones your fave likes to do... Painstakingly re-recording a song so that is perfectly identical to the original takes much more effort than your faves careless karaoke singing to mimic writing camp demos. She decided to rerecord her whole catalog without knowing if anyone would support it. We all thought it would flop to oblivion. Fearless TV did. And I'm not gonna stand here and let you degrade that when your lazy useless fave has been rerecording other people's demos carelessly for her whole career. 2 3
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted April 11 ATRL Moderator Posted April 11 50 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said: A greatest hits album includes songs from all albums + a few bonus ones. Taylor basically rereleased the same albums and tracks plus a few new songs and made money off it! There is a big difference! Let's agree to disagree. Wow, a music artist releasing music for money? The horror! Taylor isn't even the first artist to rerelease and rerecord their music (e.g., Jojo did the same thing). There are a million other things to call her greedy over (e.g., over-the-top merchandising that will go in landfills, the use of vinyl version-exclusive songs). Calling an artist greedy because they want to own their own music is very strange and obsessive. Again, who cares. Is Taylor greedy? Yes, she's a billionaire and being a billionaire is bad and becoming one requires that you be greedy. Not a bold take. However, randomly calling her greedy (in an excessive number of posts) for wanting to own her own music in a thread about her declining to perform at the UAE is just desperation to criticize her. Quote You live in your own bubble where whatever your fave does has good intentions and is not greedy! ? Let's revisit what I said before this post: "Taylor Swift is greedy; that's not a bold statement." I'm also saying that obsessively dunking on her in a thread about her choosing not to perform at the UAE is weird and silly. 2
Rence Posted April 11 Posted April 11 50 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said: What? 1989 had 14 different variants… stop making up lies You literally brought up 30 editions in the first place But if we're going to be technical, 14 is still wrong cause you're counting different formats, not just colored editions/variants. Selling music in various physical formats is common practice in the industry 47 minutes ago, mrpartyrocker said: A greatest hits album includes songs from all albums + a few bonus ones. Taylor basically rereleased the same albums and tracks plus a few new songs and made money off it! There is a big difference! But thanks for confirming that you're trolling. I'm no longer interested in this discussion OT: I don't remember her doing private shows for a check so I think that's a possible reason. Anyone else saying she would only do it for seven figures need to be serious cause she can earn that with one Eras tour date 4
The Music Industry Posted April 11 Posted April 11 27 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: She is not performing because she is greedy and wanted a bigger paycheck. That's interesting that you know that. Did Taylor tell you personally? 28 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: but no one is going to give her $40M because her performances are lackluster They're so lackluster that her fans are already giving her well over $1.5 billion to see her perform live on what is the biggest tour of all time. I guess you wouldn't be able to relate to that. Maybe that's why your fave felt the need to get extra $$$ by performing for homophobic rapist authoritarians multiple times throughout her career? 6
byzantium Posted April 11 Posted April 11 32 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: Aren't Taylor and her jet single-handedly responsible for keeping the dirty oil guys' pockets full You are going to type that, with that avi? 6
By the Water Posted April 11 Posted April 11 36 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: Aren't Taylor and her jet single-handedly responsible for keeping the dirty oil guys' pockets full Unfortunately Taylor didn't make the list for 2023. Beyoncé was top 5 though. Don't believe me? Check her IG feed 1 9
By the Water Posted April 11 Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Bloo said: Artists have always done this. What do you think a Greatest Hits album or a Live album is? Taylor Swift is greedy; that's not a bold statement. All of our pop faves are. However, claiming she is the most greedy is random and arbitrary. It's also not an interesting argument. And that's what the girls don't seem to get. Selling albums with different cover = greedy (only for Taylor though) Releasing multiple remixes = greedy (only for Taylor though) Selling make up, clothes, being a big pharma shill, performing for billionaires for a cheque = communist queens 2
Blue Rose Posted April 11 Posted April 11 10 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: That's interesting that you know that. Did Taylor tell you personally? They're so lackluster that her fans are already giving her well over $1.5 billion to see her perform live on what is the biggest tour of all time. I guess you wouldn't be able to relate to that. Maybe that's why your fave felt the need to get extra $$$ by performing for homophobic rapist authoritarians multiple times throughout her career? You made zero points. If you go to the Beyoncé base today, you'll see people dragging her for being a greedy scammer. The Hive doesn't feel the need to lie and make up new narratives about Bey. Meanwhile, Swifties run to throw other artists under the bus in hope to make Taylor look better. And that's why everyone is laughing at her. The fact that this offer came to her implies that there was a line of communication open between her and Dubai. She only refused because she didn't get the money she wanted bffr And yes grossing 5B on tour will not change the fact that her performances suck 1
Blue Rose Posted April 11 Posted April 11 9 minutes ago, By the Water said: Unfortunately Taylor didn't make the list for 2023. Beyoncé was top 5 though. Don't believe me? Check her IG feed These drags don't hit because I also think Bey is a money hungry monster. So like come up with something else
nostalgic Posted April 11 Posted April 11 Love her for this - saying no to blood money is a big win no matter the reasoning
The Music Industry Posted April 11 Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: And that's why everyone is laughing at her. Oh no! Poor her! Who is "everyone", exactly? The 7 chronically online users circle jerking in the Beyoncé base on ATRL.net? Taylor has never been bigger and more revered than she is at this very moment. "Everyone is laughing at her", yet she keeps outdoing herself and leaving everyone else in the dust. We'll see who's laughing next week with TTPD's release, Blue Rose! 1 6
Wolf Alice Posted April 11 Posted April 11 So the conclusion from the two jobless trolls on this thread 1) rihanna is the greediest female artist because she has the most net worth 2) beyonce is the female artist that lines the pockets of dirty oil the most with both jet fuel use and bringing tourism to UAE Is that it? 4
Blue Rose Posted April 11 Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: Oh no! Poor her! Who is "everyone", exactly? The 7 chronically online users circle jerking in the Beyoncé base on ATRL.net? Taylor has never been bigger and more revered than she is at this very moment. "Everyone is laughing at her", yet she keeps outdoing herself and leaving everyone else in the dust. We'll see who's laughing next week with TTPD's release, Blue Rose! Can yall discuss anything without bringing up sales and streams?
BrokenMachine Posted April 11 Posted April 11 I was about to drag her because of how she dares to treat her fans in there like that but then I saw it's for a private event, the amount is too little for that, why would she change her whole tour schedule when she makes that same amount every night ?
BrokenMachine Posted April 11 Posted April 11 3 hours ago, dumbsparce said: Taylor > Beyonce in talent Stopped reading there
Blue Rose Posted April 11 Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said: I was about to drag her because of how she dares to treat her fans in there like that but then I saw it's for a private event, the amount is too little for that, why would she change her whole tour schedule when she makes that same amount every night ? This. Swifties could've said "yas queen. know your worth. don't accept anything less than $20M" instead they decided to attack others. Just so insecure and dumb.
The Music Industry Posted April 11 Posted April 11 5 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: Can yall discuss anything without bringing up sales and streams? Except it's not strictly sales and streams. Taylor has never been so revered and has never occupied such a significant place in pop culture more broadly. So why would she (or us) care about you and all the pressed souls "laughing at her"? Like... ok! Keep going and wasting your energy!
Blue Rose Posted April 11 Posted April 11 55 minutes ago, The Music Industry said: Except it's not strictly sales and streams. Taylor has never been so revered and has never occupied such a significant place in pop culture more broadly. So why would she (or us) care about you and all the pressed souls "laughing at her"? Like... ok! Keep going and wasting your energy! You clearly care. That's why you couldn't help yourselves but bring up other artists and now you're playing the victims
rihannafan Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Music Industry said: Interesting considering other pop stars have no problem doing it for a quick buck. But trust ATRL to keep whining about how she's apparently the greediest artist alive simply because her stuff sells unlike others! I mean, she probably said no because she was not paid as much as Beyonce was for her Dubai gig (and she shouldn't as Beyonce is a much better performer) Edited April 11 by rihannafan
The Music Industry Posted April 11 Posted April 11 12 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: You clearly care. That's why you couldn't help yourselves but bring up other artists and now you're playing the victims You clearly care. That's why you're one of the top posters in a thread about someone you don't stan, quoting me about other artists being "attacked" (mind you I didn't name anyone in particular) and playing the victim
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