discussion Is it morally acceptable to bring children into today's world?

[Nashe]

stay out of straight people's business

[Afterglow]

No, and I personally believe for the betterment and future of the human race we need a freeze on baby's being allowed, and serious classes and training must be done to consider having children.

 

Adoption is at an all time low, we are severely overpopulated and overstretching our bounds of what this planet will accept. We have so much demand it's impossible to to get resources in morally responsible ways quickly. Right now, more than ever average human mental health is at an all time low.

 

It should have happened in the year 2004-2005 but that's neither here nor there now. Yes, too many new humans are being introduced to the population. 

Edited April 7 by Afterglow

[aesthetic bih]

Generally, yes. If the person is mentally and financially ready to take on the responsibility of being a parent, there's nothing immoral about that

 

Yes, it's unavoidable that there are evil irresponsible "parents" out there, but don't disregarding that there are still a lot of good parents in the world and outnumber the terrible ones by a large margin

Edited April 7 by aesthetic bih

[makeme]

I might be wrong but don't we need continued birth rate or it's bad for the economy like what happened in Japan? 

 

I think IF you can afford them then it's fine. However if you can't you are a huge *******. I got by growing up with poor parents but that was the 2000s you are totally ****** if you are poor growing up in the 2020s and it's just going to get worse. 

[shyboi]

short answer yes, long answer no

[Trent W]

We need children as society to keep things going

 

But not everyone and I would say most people aren't fit to be parents

 

I think about 70-80% people are not fit to be parents

 

They have them for all the wrong reasons

 

Marriage and children need to stop being the norm, it's really not for everyone and children always grow up with issues because of unfit parents

 

 

Edited April 7 by Trent W

[AvadaKedavra]

I get your points   I totally want kids, but this is something I think about every day:

• Global warming is getting worse, and in my country, water scarcity is increasing. In some decades, water will be a luxury worldwide if things don't get better. All the rivers from my hometown are dry-empty now. When i was younger they were full. The snowy peaks are gone. The Heatwaves. The Polar Vortexes.

• The development of AGI is scary. Once the robots-machines are aware, life will change for the best, and we will evolve to something new or we will be totally destroyed or enslaved. One of those 2

• All those tech-heads from Harvard, Stanford, and other top places (similar to elon musk-marck zuckerberg) are very pro-capitalistic, like the guy from OpenAI. With the development of AI and Replacement of workers-rise in Automatization, hundreds of millions will go to the street, poverty will increase so so much, and they will not care at all. Universal income? I don't think so. They have the means but they don't care. I love everything surrounding AI, but I'm against the ones having control of it. We are gonna live in something similar to the elysium movie

• In my country, we elected a far-left extremist populist, and he's literally ruining everything. Terrorist groups-narcos are taking over the country again like the 90s, and corporations and international investment are leaving, making everything worse every day. It's so corrupt and disgusting. He also wants to stay in power because he's a megalomaniac. Living in an unstable country is hell. My country turning into Venezuela II could be a reality, and I pray it doesn't happen. My parents live here and don't want to move. We had a moderate left one with good ideas focused on education-science but people went for the extremist with a really dark criminal past and anger-resentment discourse 

• In some places of the world, like North America, fascism is rising, and I feel like Donald Trump could create a dictatorship and destroy the USA. At the same time, Europe has Putin trying to take over everything, and also people are turning more religious and conservative there, which is dangerous. The old liberal utopia is goin down.

• The lack of new pop girls is a new issue we all should care about. The most important issue here. a world without pop music is not worthy  

• I'm scared of another virus rising.

• I feel like World War III could be a reality once Taiwan is taken over by China. Never say never

• Aliens: What if the UFOs reveal themselves? and they abduct us with their *** probes or theyre playing with us like we are the sims 

Even with all of this, I have to be honest.
I would have kids if we were very wealthy. I would have 2. I need a husband for them
I'm 31, and the number one reason why I don't have kids is that I don't have the economic stability to give them good lives.
But for me kids are sacred. Havin kids would be probably my biggest achievement in life
Im a very bubbly happy person, so im one of those who get energized with kids and the youth around.  
 

 

 

Edited April 7 by AvadaKedavra

[barbiegrande]

Gay men are so  

 

 

Unless you grew a uterus is your booty, shut up. Women can have as many or as little children as they please.

Edited April 7 by barbiegrande

[princedonte]

Y'all are too far gone. Progressivism has caused rot a lot of your brains. 

[Peroxide]

1 hour ago, Bonicap said:

World has never been better than it is right now. Look at the overall data on illiteracy, hunger, wars, deadly diseases or life expectancy. I don't understand the question.

If you're rich - it's great.

 

If not… yikes. The cost of living is absurd… my newphew is never going to be able to afford to buy his own home.

 

Not to mention climate change, the cost of healthcare, the political sphere becoming more and more right wing and extremist. Idk…

[Anthinos]

Our society needs children otherwise we will die out but there should be limits and some people shouldn't be parents.

[Princess Aurora]

Yes, I'll try adoption though

[Tovitov]

Of course it is. On a serious note, the UN estimates have the world population peaking soon and then declining back down. Alot of countries are below replacement levels now too and at some point in the future, many governments will be begging their young people to reproduce because there will be too many old people and not enough workers to take care of them or pay taxes to fund their benefits. 

 

 

[Illuminati]

3 minutes ago, barbiegrande said:

Gay men are so  

 

 

Unless you grew a uterus is your booty, shut up. Women can have as many or as little children as they please.

 

Even if we pretend that gay couples never bring biological children into this world through surrogacy, how do you think an average pregnancy happens missy

 

The idea that raising children is womens business is very anti feminist and leaves biological fathers with no responsibility.

[Bonicap]

19 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

If you're rich - it's great.

 

If not… yikes. The cost of living is absurd… my newphew is never going to be able to afford to buy his own home.

 

Not to mention climate change, the cost of healthcare, the political sphere becoming more and more right wing and extremist. Idk…

I think you might want to look at data on how very poor people lived in past decades, like the number of people that died of hunger or infant mortality in Africa. Being rich has always been great and being middle class in developed countries was probably better in the 90s or early 00s but it's not that bad now and definitely much better than a few decades ago. 

Edited April 7 by Bonicap

[Archetype]

If you can commit to being a good and loving parent, and have the financial means to care for them, then yes.  Like others said, there has never been a better time in history to have children.  The only wildcard is climate change, but that doesn't mean humanity should just stop reproducing.  

[Devin]

screaming at the confused & downvote reacts.

 

some of these takes in here are wild.

[CoolNebraskaGuy]

Between the terminally online who fear everything and the weirdos who think that raising kids is only for the straights or women... some of you should definitely not be reproducing  

 

 

Edited April 7 by CoolNebraskaGuy

[CoolNebraskaGuy]

1 hour ago, Afterglow said:

No, and I personally believe for the betterment and future of the human race we need a freeze on baby's being allowed, and serious classes and training must be done to consider having children.

 

Adoption is at an all time low, we are severely overpopulated and overstretching our bounds of what this planet will accept. We have so much demand it's impossible to to get resources in morally responsible ways quickly. Right now, more than ever average human mental health is at an all time low.

 

It should have happened in the year 2004-2005 but that's neither here nor there now. Yes, too many new humans are being introduced to the population. 

Yeah, freezing the birth rate has always worked out really well in the past!

 

[paulyyyozd]

Yes, this whole "the world is ending so people should stop having children" take is so DUMB it always surprises me how people are so proud to throw it around as if it's the smartest thing  

[barbiegrande]

41 minutes ago, Illuminati said:

 

Even if we pretend that gay couples never bring biological children into this world through surrogacy, how do you think an average pregnancy happens missy

 

The idea that raising children is womens business is very anti feminist and leaves biological fathers with no responsibility.

Raising is different than carrying and birthing. 

[Wasp]

anyone on this website should avoid reproducing

[Illuminati]

10 minutes ago, barbiegrande said:

Raising is different than carrying and birthing. 

Conceiving is also different than carrying and birthing, which is what this thread is about

[Vixen Eyes]

whats funny is that my sister is going into labor soon lol

[Happylittlepunk]

It's simple if you want kids have them with your wife/husband/partner. 
 

if you don't then don't. 
 

No it's not morally wrong to have kids in this day and age. 
 

do you think your parents and grandparents didn't go through hardships in there life time? They also went through wars, economic downturns, hunger, poverty, drugs, violence, etc. that didn't stop them from having kids.