Josh Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, satellites.™ said: Well three of them are dead so what now? and when they were alive they never used 25 writers 1
satellites.™ Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, Josh said: and when they were alive They're not now, and won't be ever again, so what now? 2 3
Burn Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, Josh said: But Prince has never needed 25 writers Prince is Prince and Beyoncé is Beyoncé. What's your point? Like my sis @QueenB said, "everyone writes music differently". There is no right or wrong way to make music. It's music, it's meant to be fun! Lighten up and don't be so pressed. 7
Chris Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Burn said: There is no right or wrong way to make music. It's music, it's meant to be fun! Lighten up and don't be so pressed. If she does not credit the proper songwriters/samples, she's a thief and she steals credits. If she credits everyone, 'oh mY gOd wHy sO MaNy wRiTeRs". 10 4
alfonso12 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, Josh said: Both can be true. Beyonce's lyrics are simple as hell Sure, Jan. You could've just said that you like to listen to generic and basic stuff and that's why you don't get Beyoncé's music. 3 1 1
Josh Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, alfonso12 said: Sure, Jan. You could've just said that you like to listen to generic and basic stuff and that's why you don't get Beyoncé's music. Whats there not to get about her music? shes not Bjork or Kate Bush 2
QueenB Posted April 3 Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, Josh said: But Prince has never needed 25 writers And? Tina Turner did, does this lessen how great her music is? No.
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted April 3 ATRL Moderator Posted April 3 7 minutes ago, Kingdom said: You just contradicted yourself...you literally have no idea what their deal is. You have no idea what she actually contributed. A lot of assumptions and that is indeed tired. You are basing your opinion on TWITTER VIBES and threads. Try reading again. I did not contradict myself lol. I was describing a hypothetical situation. And I'm talking specifically about her real history of credit swiping. That's not Twitter vibes. She stole those Smack Into You credits long before Twitter threads were made about her questionable ethics when it comes to credits 2
Chris Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Josh said: shes not Bjork Let's all thank God. 2 6
Josh Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Chris said: Let's all thank God. beyonce wishes she had the acclaim 1 1 2
Virgos Groove Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Literally the only person who should care how many songwriters a song has is her accountant. GO TOUCH SOME GRASS. 1
Virgos Groove Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Josh said: beyonce wishes she had the acclaim Bjork's acclaim? Don't worry, she already has it: Quote I think Lemonade is an incredible album. I don't think for a second musically it was inspired by what I do. She's obviously in her own universe. I've said this before, I'm obsessed with Beyonce, she's one of my favorite artists. 9 1
Josh Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 minute ago, Virgos Groove said: Bjork's acclaim? Don't worry, she already has it: Funny I searched for that quote never found a source for it 1
Virgos Groove Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 1 minute ago, Josh said: Funny I searched for that quote never found a source for it https://www.bjork.fr/bjork-digital-LA-Weekly Edited April 3 by Virgos Groove 2
Lovett Posted April 3 Posted April 3 10 minutes ago, feelslikeadream said: Try reading again. I did not contradict myself lol. I was describing a hypothetical situation. And I'm talking specifically about her real history of credit swiping. That's not Twitter vibes. She stole those Smack Into You credits long before Twitter threads were made about her questionable ethics when it comes to credits "Real history" that consists of two examples over a career span of nearly 3 decades. You do not have an argument and you never have done. We have actual songwriters and producers that categorically state that people like you have no idea what you're talking about and yet you STILL try it. Hell, even your fave has praised Beyoncé's songwriting. As Beyoncé said: "experts with no expertise". 9
QueenB Posted April 3 Posted April 3 11 minutes ago, feelslikeadream said: Try reading again. I did not contradict myself lol. I was describing a hypothetical situation. And I'm talking specifically about her real history of credit swiping. That's not Twitter vibes. She stole those Smack Into You credits long before Twitter threads were made about her questionable ethics when it comes to credits The lyrics are only credited to The Dream and Tricky, the music is ARRANGED by them and Beyoncé, look at wikipedia if you don't believe me. So who claimed they were stolen? The original singer didn't even write it, and her name is not on the writing credits. meanwhile the actual writers work with her to this day, and constantly say how involved she is in the process
SinnerCity Posted April 3 Posted April 3 48 minutes ago, Burn said: Britney stan really shouldn't be talking when Britney can't write nor even sing on her own 'songs' - if they can be called that. Now why did you have to insert Britney into the conversation? and if we go by facts, Britney does have songwriting credits proving you otherwise. Back on topic. It's dumb for people to complain about these types of things when it's been proven that many people can be in the room when composing/writing a song and they all get songwriting credits, for all we know, half of the people in those tracks contributed to the songs' demos and the rest made adjustments when Bey was recording them. We know Beyoncé isn't known for her songwriting and there have been instances in the past where she's been criticised for it but honestly, it's kinda part of the job and whether some people like it or not, having your song recorded by Beyoncé is a big deal. 2
Galah Posted April 3 Posted April 3 He's right of course (he is one of the most prolific songwriters of the past decade) but "to combine misc. ideas is MORE creative than just writing it yourself," is lowkey a wild ass take. It's different kinds of creativity, not really comparable. There are people who collaborate in a more creative manner than others, and there are people who write solo more creative than other solo writers.
ATRL Moderator feelslikeadream Posted April 3 ATRL Moderator Posted April 3 13 minutes ago, Lovett said: "Real history" that consists of two examples over a career span of nearly 3 decades. You do not have an argument and you never have done. We have actual songwriters and producers that categorically state that people like you have no idea what you're talking about and yet you STILL try it. Hell, even your fave has praised Beyoncé's songwriting. As Beyoncé said: "experts with no expertise". You're acting as if I claimed she stole credits from people on CC, when I didn't say that. I simply pointed to a past history of questionable writing credits and said that IF she is still doing that kind of thing (e.g. changing one word, then being listed as a writer), then that's an issue. And if that's not the case, great! I don't really care, but am allowed to express concern based on past history 5 minutes ago, QueenB said: The lyrics are only credited to The Dream and Tricky, the music is ARRANGED by them and Beyoncé, look at wikipedia if you don't believe me. So who claimed they were stolen? The original singer didn't even write it, and her name is not on the writing credits. meanwhile the actual writers work with her to this day, and constantly say how involved she is in the process ..... You must be looking at the wrong song, dear. Try reading again. 1 2
Lovett Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Just now, feelslikeadream said: You're acting as if I claimed she stole credits from people on CC, when I didn't say that. I simply pointed to a past history of questionable writing credits and said that IF she is still doing that kind of thing (e.g. changing one word, then being listed as a writer), then that's an issue. And if that's not the case, great! I don't really care, but am allowed to express concern based on past history Again, that "past history" consists of two examples over a career spanning nearly 3 decades. If you want to "express concern" over a fabricated stan narrative that has been debunked over and over by many writers/producers then that's your issue. But the rest of us are going to stick to reality. 2
Doogle Posted April 3 Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Josh said: An album doesn't need over a thousand of song writers just to write the most simplest lyrics Beyonce claims to write The way you missed the point literally in the OP above you. Stop talking on things you don't understand, you look like a clown 1 1 1 1
Kh-Loud Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Ooh enough off topic posts to report for a permanent ban - get to work hives!! Ot: he's right 1
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