Ck.cR Posted March 31 Posted March 31 She is here to serve bops. Her personal life and struggles are none of our businesses. Give me the hits queen Dua.
mxoonlight Posted March 31 Posted March 31 I don't think she lacks a narrative, but I think there's been some difficulty advancing it this go around.
Dolce Vita Posted March 31 Posted March 31 i think she covers the "aspirational" area of pop girls. she's pretty, rich, seems well travelled/cultured and smart
Rhyme Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Quote As long as I'm being of service and the music is there and it's a soundtrack for a moment in time, or in someone's life, then I've done what I was supposed to do.” This sounds like a pretty good narrative to me. Just someone happy to make music that brings joy. 4
MusicLoverDude Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Her music is enjoyable and mostly light. She can have an artistry to her without being super personal, and if she chooses to be personal later on, let her.
BrokenMachine Posted March 31 Posted March 31 I always feel like these kind of comments are rooted with misogyny. You don't see stuff like that being said about tons of male singers. People don't claim them to tell their 'narratives' or stuff like that, people just listen to their music and that's it 4
Jay07 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 I think she has a lot of talent and I enjoy her songs but she does lack an identity. Like, who is she as a person? Is she shy? Funny? Horny? The only way to identify with an artist is to feel like you know them either through their music or their public persona and Dua is so... faceless and her songs so generic. 1
SlowGinFizzzz Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Y'all are annoying. Who cares about drama and "narratives" as long as the music is great? Of course, I do understand that less talented artists who don't get pop music the way Dua does rely on that kind of stuff to make up for their subpar artistry. 4
Princess Aurora Posted March 31 Posted March 31 No. She's fine. At least her career isn't based on stirring up drama unlike someone
halcyonday Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Yes, but that's actually a great thing for her. She has this lack of charisma that makes her very safe and vanilla. It's not like she'll go on a rant or meltdown because of depression/chart obsession/controversies like Gaga's ARTPOP or Katy's Witness. She's keeping it chill, goes on vacation every other week and knows she'll afford it until she dies from Levitating coins alone.
Xtina23 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 2 hours ago, RideOrDie said: she should start a beef with someone like ava max, go on coke fuelled twitter rants
dirrtydiana Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Based on the smashery that was new rules be the one one kiss FN era dance the night it's safe to say
barbiegrande Posted April 1 Author Posted April 1 Is it? Houdini is a good song, but there's nothing groundbreaking about it. Training Season is badly written and obnoxious 1 hour ago, SlowGinFizzzz said: Y'all are annoying. Who cares about drama and "narratives" as long as the music is great? Of course, I do understand that less talented artists who don't get pop music the way Dua does rely on that kind of stuff to make up for their subpar artistry. 1 1
thinking Posted April 1 Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, barbiegrande said: Is it? Houdini is a good song, but there's nothing groundbreaking about it. Training Season is badly written and obnoxious You would know what it's like listening to that constantly, no? 2
barbiegrande Posted April 1 Author Posted April 1 1 minute ago, thinking said: You would know what it's like listening to that constantly, no? 1
TheBoss Posted April 1 Posted April 1 3 hours ago, jesus del rey said: Lets not encourage her to steal Azealia's job There's
brenda-walsh Posted April 1 Posted April 1 my question is why do people feel so entitled to knowing personal details from big stars and having to "know" them on a personal level? like why do you care if she's shy or funny, if she's single or in a relationship? is that really what's going to prompt you to listen to an artist's music vs. actually liking the music? i feel like social media has created this weird culture where there's an expectation to have a personal relationship with these stars when all of these personal relationships are manufactured anyway. none of us really know what beyonce or rihanna are like or going through. we only know the carefully crafted and filtered image they feed us. as much as swifties think they know taylor swift they don't really know who she is as a person 3
dumbsparce Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) The problem is not the lack of narrative but the lack of material. You can't be in the game for almost 10 years now with only 2 albums out, especially when you're supposed to be this relentless pop hit machine who's omnipresent in pop culture. Her career so far is eerily similar to that of Legend X's and we all know how that turned out. Edited April 1 by dumbsparce 2
HASHTAGPOW Posted April 1 Posted April 1 She was drowned, now she's found. That's the narrative this era.
Thesedays Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 4 hours ago, barbiegrande said: Historically, most A list pop women have a back and forth with the media. Their music is often a response to what has been said about them or giving their side of events. Beyonce made CC because she felt she was unwelcome amongst white dominated genres and audiences. Ariana made ES because she was being painted as a soulless villain. Rihanna made Anti because people said for years she wasn't an album artist. Olivia Rodrigo blew up with Sour because she was responding to her public love life. I feel like now more than ever, people want music with substance. I don't think a pop girl putting out an album of 'bops' flies anymore. If she's not saying anything personal, the album will most likely end up grouped with AI drivel like Ava Max. Which leads me to Ms. Lipa. She's very sweet and pretty. But does she have anything to say? I think she's the current iteration of the "cool pop chick." The public is drawn to her because she is effortlessly cool, stylish, and seems like someone cool to hang out with, plus she makes catchy bops. This role was previously occupied by Rihanna. Of course, Rihanna had narratives going on for her (the Chris Brown romance, which turned into the abuse case), but it wasn't these narratives that made her such an A-lister. Rihanna herself didn't want to be associated with these and really ingrained herself as a long-term success when she successfully marketed herself as the "it girl" people love because she's stylish, pretty, and seems fun. Also, Dua has a pretty impressive work ethic and a desire for success which, at some point, Rihanna also had. Now that Rihanna has stopped releasing music, it's easy to forget how hard she worked for years, doing world tour after world tour, releasing yearly albums, and appearing at every big TV and award show around the world—which is also what Dua also does now. Edited April 1 by Thesedays
Cheers Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Her identity is a pretty euro-pop singer. She doesn't have to be more than that nor do we really want more from her. Just give us good singles.
Thesedays Posted April 1 Posted April 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cheers said: Her identity is a pretty euro-pop singer. She doesn't have to be more than that nor do we really want more from her. Just give us good singles. Being a "pretty euro-pop singer" isn't enough to become a global success, though. 99.9% of the girls who tried this route flopped outside Europe (actually, most flopped outside the UK. Very few -- like Kylie Minogue and Anastacia -- actually had success in Europe as a whole). Dua clearly offers something more to the public. But since it isn't in the form of media scandals, it's harder for us to assimilate what that is. 6 hours ago, chaneloberlin said: i disagree. future nostalgia did and that's why it did so well. "sophmore 'make-or-break' dance album released a week early, leaked, all promo shutdown, goes on to succeed, makes the UK look good as a result" did well for her her first album was also a little bit of a moment because there hadn't been a breakout women in pop for ages = a narrative i'm not sure about this third album though because Dua is always singing about love, lost love etc. etc. so we'll sea Did she ever really make the UK looks good though? I mean, she obviously uses the "Cool Britannia" thing when it suits her (like the BRIT Awards performance she did, which was quite impressive) but it's quite clear she doesn't really gaf about the UK nor is she particularly proud of it. While she was born and raised there and is obviously culturally British, she is obviously more proud and vocal about being from Albania and her Albanian roots. Edited April 1 by Thesedays
Cheers Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Just now, Thesedays said: Being a "pretty euro-pop singer" isn't enough to become a global success, though. 99.9% of the girls who tried this route flopped outside Europe (actually, most flopped outside the UK. Very few -- like Kylie Minogue and Anastacia -- actually had success in Europe as a whole). Dua clearly offers something more to the public. But since it isn't in the form of media scandals, it's harder for us to assimilate what that is. Dua's team gave her better music
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