charts discussion Final predictions (3/30): Lose Control #1, Enough (Miami) #9

[PoisonPill]

On 3/17/2024 at 10:58 AM, littlebodybigheart said:

ariana's #1s lasting a week and then crashing down needs to be studied

 

the definition of being carried by the fans for the first week

15% dip is not "crashing down,” no matter how desperately you want it to be.

[Truth Teller]

15 hours ago, pride4jc1222 said:

I wonder why Teddy's team is doing this now, instead of when Lovin on Me was at #1. Lose Control would have been looked at the same way as Yes and? People would have been happy about LoM losing a week at #1, and would have justified LC's #1 with the 20+ week organic run that preceded it.

Was Lose Control ever close enough to LOM's points for these tricks to have an effect? Cause I doubt those versions and mass downloads can provide more than 20 points, best case scenario 

[pride4jc1222]

7 hours ago, Truth Teller said:

Was Lose Control ever close enough to LOM's points for these tricks to have an effect? Cause I doubt those versions and mass downloads can provide more than 20 points, best case scenario 

The week after HISS went to #1 was the week to do it. At that point, LoM was beatable. Yes and? and HISS proved it in 2 of the previous 3 weeks. Lose Control had comparable streaming/radio numbers to Yes and?, so I think LC would have gotten the #1 with the tactics. After all, it was #2 on the actual chart that week without the tactics.

[Truth Teller]

46 minutes ago, pride4jc1222 said:

The week after HISS went to #1 was the week to do it.

He was 70 points behind that week, there's no way he could reach it no matter how many digital versions his bots downloaded from Amazon. His radio was too weak. Now that he's nearing 60 million in airplay is the right time to try fraud

[Eternium]

On 3/17/2024 at 4:30 PM, PurrKaty said:

His Live version for YouTube has been doing extremely well and what really propelled the song

So basically he's manipulating the charts with YouTube ads  

On 3/17/2024 at 10:07 AM, ReneighIsHere said:

they immediately pulled yes, and? from radio, not considering that the album push could have given the song a second life.. it grew on a lot of people with the album and it's getting decent streams. And like you said wcbf isn't getting  a huge push either, but it seems like it will rise gradually (it just got a 1M update today)

It's funny because Y,A was actually getting good scores for the first time right when they pulled it  

[pride4jc1222]

I'd definitely be in favor of this. It would make it harder for songs, which fell off during the Christmas season, to re-enter after the holidays are over. 

[Grizzo]

come onnnn Cardi come throuuuuughhhhh

 

Enough is just a bop I'm rooting for it to go top 10

[SweetTalker]

On 3/17/2024 at 9:58 AM, littlebodybigheart said:

ariana's #1s lasting a week and then crashing down needs to be studied

 

the definition of being carried by the fans for the first week

I know a rapist stan is not talking about an album "crashing down"    

 

 

 

 

 

[pride4jc1222]

Canada predictions (at least Lovin on Me is dropping here): 

 

[PurrKaty]

12 hours ago, Eternium said:

So basically he's manipulating the charts with YouTube ads  

No… it's called going viral on a social media platform lmao

 

Amazing live performances and/or eye catching music videos are the major ways songs go viral on YouTube. YouTube views are counted less than other platforms so it would be in bad taste for the record label to push it too.

[Eternium]

1 hour ago, PurrKaty said:

No… it's called going viral on a social media platform lmao

 

Amazing live performances and/or eye catching music videos are the major ways songs go viral on YouTube. YouTube views are counted less than other platforms so it would be in bad taste for the record label to push it too.

They still do it because YouTube is the easiest platform to manipulate - see Drake & Future with their Life Is Good song that got caught faking streams.

 

I have no idea where Teddy Swims's streams are coming from nor could I tell you anything about him. I just find it odd how he keeps surging, especially with sales, when he has no dedicated fanbase. 

[Triton]

Ideally Teddy gets it this week with Cardi solo going top 10, Benson next week with Shakira/Cardi having a strong debut, Beyonce back on top afterwards during her release week. 

[Mr. Duff]

The charts is amazing this year, so many movements! Teddy, Benson, Jack, Beyonce, Ariana, Kanye, Zach/Kacey, Taylor in the top ten and all going #1 (Teddy and Benson will likely get a week each) - I mean that's insane! But at least all of them are the strongest in their weeks which is amazing. Such a shame Tate stalled at #3, and Snooze didn't go #1 too. But what a top ten, I lvoe all of these songs (maybe not Kanye's or Beyonce's but they are not bad songs).

 

That Djo song is blowing up too, and it's a great song. Let's see how far it can go.

 

I do hope Cruel Summer can hang on to the top ten, and Taylor doesn't make herself go recurrent before 52 weeks. She needs Cruel Summer to go the full year!!!

[Bethenny Frankel]

I don't use Lose Control, however his cover of Cruel Summer is better than Taylor's version

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

Mother.

 

 

[Bhabylon]

[lillavend3r]

Oh she ate that

[Pheromosa]

agora hills the smash you are

good for cardi, hopefully the album can actually roll out now

[The 1]

So Cardi is not a flop at all..

[Green]

#8 debut is better than expected

[Badboidami]

She 8

 

 

[Maroonx]

Cardi won x

[Gaia]

On 3/21/2024 at 9:24 AM, pride4jc1222 said:

I'd definitely be in favor of this. It would make it harder for songs, which fell off during the Christmas season, to re-enter after the holidays are over. 

That's stupid. If they introduce something like that then ban Christmas jingles from flooding the charts

[B-Luke]

Hopefully they filter some more Teddy Drowns sales so Benson can be #1 

[Michael196]

payola hills matching Cruel Summer's points and blocking it from the top 10 with almost double the airplay