okgo Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) funny I asked about the Mckenna rumor in my previous post today and he just shared this either way he hasn't been 100% correct before (I mean he said the January delay was wrong and it turned out to be true I think?) so let's see... Edited October 19 by okgo
Sam96 Posted October 20 Posted October 20 I really hope 5 & 6 are not erased from the timeline and if the rumors are true about Sidney having a teen daughter shouldn't she be like 14 in this movie or something 1
HungryByTheBuffet Posted October 20 Posted October 20 2 hours ago, Sam96 said: I really hope 5 & 6 are not erased from the timeline and if the rumors are true about Sidney having a teen daughter shouldn't she be like 14 in this movie or something There's allegedly a time jump, might take place 2028-2030 and I don't think they're retconning anything it's just 6 ended where it ended and the time well, jumped. 1
ctlp27 Posted October 21 Posted October 21 On 10/20/2024 at 12:50 AM, Sam96 said: I really hope 5 & 6 are not erased from the timeline and if the rumors are true about Sidney having a teen daughter shouldn't she be like 14 in this movie or something I liked 5 and 6 but apart from Dewey, I don't really care if they are not that referenced if the franchise refocus on Sidney.
Daddy Posted October 23 Posted October 23 I knew they would go this way. The hint in S6 was the final nail in the coffin and I'm lowkey excited. Just let it go off the rails, let Stu be the Ghosface that killed Dewey, go all out with this. 1 1
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 10/20/2024 at 12:50 AM, Sam96 said: I really hope 5 & 6 are not erased from the timeline and if the rumors are true about Sidney having a teen daughter shouldn't she be like 14 in this movie or something Omfg why are they dragging this. Give Sidney some damn peace. It actually would've been refreshing to add children into the mix On 10/20/2024 at 3:39 AM, HungryByTheBuffet said: There's allegedly a time jump, might take place 2028-2030 and I don't think they're retconning anything it's just 6 ended where it ended and the time well, jumped. Cringe these studios have zero shame On 10/21/2024 at 10:37 AM, ctlp27 said: I liked 5 and 6 but apart from Dewey, I don't really care if they are not that referenced if the franchise refocus on Sidney. They've been trying to kill for like 4 decades like enough. It'd be weird not to acknowledge the last 2. They both were in 5 and Gale nearly died again in 6. It at least has to be a conversation. 19 hours ago, okgo said: ... I love Matthew Lillard but no. Drew and Matthew book other roles elsewhere and stop beating a dead horse. Literally. Ya both are dead. Get over it. It's already a stretch that Gale and Sidney are even alive still after everything that they've been through 1
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 19 hours ago, Daddy said: I knew they would go this way. The hint in S6 was the final nail in the coffin and I'm lowkey excited. Just let it go off the rails, let Stu be the Ghosface that killed Dewey, go all out with this. This would be so disrespectful to Wes. He would never approve of such a thing. The only reason why most are OK with Kirby is because this is something Wes himself wanted and confirmed but anything else is justry hard fan service
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 8/26/2024 at 6:07 PM, Big Bad Wolf said: They had to tank their franchise into the ground before they brought Neve back on? Pitiful. If she signed on only for the movie to suck the lashings will be warranted On 8/26/2024 at 6:09 PM, YourFavoriteWeapon said: 3 at least has solid direction, a fun tone, Sidney's best arc, PARKER POSEY, and is devoid of glaring plot-holes. 6 is cheaply directed and filled to the brim with logistical errors and a grating style over substance vibe that showcases Radio Silence had no respect for what Wes and Kevin built. It's actually quite disgusting to see how they rushed this franchise. Thank god they're no longer directing 3 became the very thing 1 and 2 were partying and a comedy when this is supposed to be a slasher thriller. Parker Posey was doing the most. Gale's bangs are essentially another Ghostface. Weak ass opening. Punk ass half brother. Not you complaining about the lack of realism when Sidney, Gale and Dewey shouldn't be alive after everything that they've been through On 8/26/2024 at 8:05 PM, bad guy said: The only one who destroyed the franchise is Spyglass by scrapping Sam/Tara's arc over a ceasefire post Scream 6 revitalized the franchise and not only was the most successful sequel but also grew the franchise's popularity and was a pop culture moment in ways no sequel after 2 was able to be. They completely shot themselves in the foot and booking Neve back is because they're scrambling at the PR nightmare they created. Everyone has moved on from her story because it literally ended with 5. I'm sure the fans who are stuck in nostalgia will love another Sidney movie where she fights off another killer with nothing happening to her, but the generation introduced to the franchise with 5-6 will not and the box office will reflect that. And if they discard 5-6 as "fan fiction" then that's even more disrespectful to the franchise because Wes made it clear that Scream was always story driven and would never go into the Halloween/F13 route of discarding past films. That would ruin the validity of the franchise, but clearly Spyglass doesn't care much. I agree with most of what you said but 4 is also great because it was ahead of its time. Outside of being filmed on a Snapchat filter it's motive was definitely fortelling where the culture was shifting to aka influencers On 9/8/2024 at 9:39 PM, Chris said: Do you guys think the long gaps between Scream 3, 4, and 5 somehow ruined any momentum this franchise had as a whole? All are 11 years apart. The bad press is what has tainted the franchise for alot of people On 8/27/2024 at 11:44 AM, ctlp27 said: 5 and 6 are a fun ride to watch as Ghostface is indeed a menacing and violent presence. But I don't see a lot of replay value like the OGs because the plotholes are crazy and nonsensical (and we're talking about Scream franchise so that says a lot). Also JO and MB are not great leads (or to put it simply, not strong enough characters to have been positioned as franchise lead like Sidney and Gale). Well yeah because they haven't been at this for 4 decades like the other 2 ladies that was the point of their Trilogy was to established them On 8/26/2024 at 8:52 PM, YourFavoriteWeapon said: It is the franchise's equivalent of Halloween: Resurrection and Freddy's Dead. 1. Um not you saying this when Sidney Gale and Dewey survived decades of Ghostface 2. If y'all were able to buy Billy Loomis mom and Sidney's long lost half brother and 2 gen z stans a crooked cop and his kids teaming up to ensue family revenge isn't out the way. Mind you we live in a reality where we are all well aware of how corrupt our justice system is especially when we have cops killing innocent people on camera and still have a job so Bailey as a character honestly isn't far fetched 3. Gale, Sidney and Dewey shouldn't be alive at this point with the wounds that they've collected over the years so stop it lol 4. I actually agree with the first half of your statement here. This is why a part of me was always salty about 4 underperforming. It would've been a kii and a half Jill surviving and then being targeted by another Ghostface like how they originally planned 5. This is all still new to Sam and she's technically an anti hero type of final girl consider she enjoys killing but it's under the guise of self defense so its a moral gray area. It's because Tara butt's heads with Sam is how you know that she's been developed. From finding out Sam is her half sister, related to the original Ghostface, abandoned and targeted because of Sam's lineage, her best friend being a Ghostface stan cosplayer herself, her relationship with Chad. That's all development. I agree with you about Mindy and Chad. I feel like alot of grace is given to them because it's rare we get vital character of horror especially ones that are queer and survive so I understand that their representation is important but Mindy should've died in 5. Chad should've died in 6. In my opinion. Gale has been the one to show zero growth or always goes back to square one and repeats the same lesson learned. Introduced as a *****. Is a target. Learns to care. Fucks or squabbles with Dewey and or Sidney then heart of gold after yet another near death experience lol 6. The last statement you made is a wild over reaction On 9/19/2024 at 3:12 PM, stjosephprey4us said: I routinely see Scream topping lists of best Horror franchises so I think the gaps actually did right by it, bc it prevented a million needless sequels (like Halloween, Saw, etc. are tainted by). Scream 5 was the revitalization 4 wished for (although 4 was a good way to leave a mark for the in between generation). I think 7 will really decide how impactful Scream's legacy will be… 4 is objectively better 5. I just hope that all of this trouble with getting 7 made is worth it with it actually being a good movie On 9/19/2024 at 9:00 AM, paddii_ said: Scream was dead after 3 the reception wasn't really good and also the time was not good for horror films because violence was blamed on movies 4 was the first try of revitalizing the franchise but it didn't go as planned, also because during that time there was no thirst for killer films as people got sick of torture porn and ghost movie became pretty trendy. 5 was the second try at revitalizing and they were using the success of Halloween and introduced new characters. I feel like a lot of people are underestimating the impact of the new characters on recent success. A lot of people maybe don't like it but you can see based on the success that people like it. to answer your question shortly: the long gaps were due to the franchise being kind of dead in between I would've loved the original Scream 5 idea that Wes and Kevin had planned Jill is still in my top 3 ghostfaces. I think what contributed to 6 being the success that it was is the growing popularity that the actors had outside the franchise which as a group brought in more fans to support the next installment if we're being honest 1
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 8/31/2024 at 2:38 AM, Sexyzinger said: Yeah, good thing that Neve has a good head on her shoulders and isn't chronically online like some actresses, so I think any kind of hate train that targets Neve during her promotion of Scream 7 will largely bypass Neve's radar. We all must make a concerted effort to support actresses in their mid-life careers. Very few still receive opportunities like Neve is getting, and we need to show our appreciation to her and the studio for supporting our powerful girlie that has a proven box office record with Scream. I hope that ya have this same energy with Neve's projects outside of Scream. Yall keep talking about her like as if she's some broke and struggling actress. She isn't and she's been working out of her volition with no issue. Ya over here like poor Neve, support Neve and it's like OK have any of ya supported her by watching her roles on House Of Cards, Lincoln Lawyer or Twisted Metal? Appreciate the studio? The same one that's the reason why the franchise is currently in the mess that it's in? No thank you. They fumbled Neve's bag first time around and are now overcompensating as damage control. On 8/31/2024 at 2:55 AM, YourFavoriteWeapon said: Not you being a Scream 7 supporter and a Neve stan. I'm willing to set aside my Katy hatred when it comes to you if it means we can form a truce But yeah it's genuinely really depressing seeing Meliesa stans attack Neve when they don't know that she's one of the main reasons this franchise is as successful as it is whereas, with all due respect, the majority of people don't give a **** about Melissa or Sam Carpenter's generic Riverdale ass character. Seeing them resort to ageism and the "Greedy Jew" stereotype is just disheartening and repulsive, especially when Melissa stans should know what it's like to see their fave be on the receiving end of so much vitriol yet they're hurling more hate towards Neve than Melissa ever got post-Scream 5. Also kinda ironic that Neve is getting hit with these "Zionist!!11" allegations when Melissa is a Clinique ambassador and their parent company donates to the IDF. Not to mention Abigail is distributed by Universal which donated to Israel so like…both her and her fans are major hypocrites. Lowkey scared to see 7 in theatres bc there's nothing stopping some low-IQ Melissa stan from shooting up the cinema dd All that for a Khia who doesn't even possess half the acting chops Neve does, there's a reason why an entire subplot in 6 was symbolism for how much people (rightfully) hated her in 5, giving Rooney Mara in Elm Street reboot teas but the difference being that Rooney knew she was **** whereas Melissa STILL thinks she did something with that comatose line delivery. Stupid This franchise is also Courtney's as much as it is Neve's at this point so to just credit one person for all of its success isn't stating a fact. I don't agree with the lashings Neve is getting but you also have to remember Melissa entire career was in legitimate danger because she stood up against genocide. Like right before our eyes that is genuinely terrifying. Can't write off Sam as being a generic Riverdale character when at this point the franchise is giving What's New Scoobt Doo with the way that they're dragging it all out along just for money cause it's not for the fans at this point if we're being real. Melissa didn't just get hate post S5 she also got hate during her In The Heights promo and then again when she came out as Pro Palestine. Please don't infantilize either woman to prove a point. Neither is in the wrong nor are they deserving of what they both have and are enduring. As for you Clinique and Universal points same way Neve was quick to come back to a studio that disrespected her for a check Melissa still a relatively new actor that doesn't have the luxury of not working cause she's not yet properly established is also gonna take jobs. Degrading Melissa as a khia and then going as far as generalizing all her fans as violent and you being concerned for your safety is so out of pocket. I even as a fan can agree with you that her performance is 5cream was wooden and she outshined by a mile by Jenna but she more than made up for it in 6cream. Also you need to watch her in any things because Melissa is actually really talented and quite versatile in ways that Neve isn't but that doesn't merit you making it a competition and piting them against each other. If both woman are cordial and get along with each other so should the fans. The issue is not them but the studio heads. On 8/31/2024 at 3:49 AM, Jay07 said: My main gripe is people demanding Neve support Melissa. I agree with Melissa's point of view but Neve is a middle aged actress and this is her franchise. Was she expected to step aside from one of the few professional opportunities available to her when no one of the new cast supported her when Spyglass lowballed her and she made the franchise what it is? It's sad to see a hate train from certain terminally online individuals but maybe they should focus on supporting Melissa's other efforts so her career can thrive. Why are ya rewriting narrative when Melissa herself and multiple times was vocal about she respected and supported Neve's decision to not come back after being low balled. Melissa career thankfully is still thriving and on the upward as her fans are supporting and shes gaining more traction as she should. Nebe is in no way struggling. It's like yall have tunnel vision when it comes to her acting career when she's done so much outside and besides Scream and it's annoying. But ha claim to be such fans and support her as an actress but that only comes to play if shes Sidney smh On 8/31/2024 at 12:24 PM, YourFavoriteWeapon said: It's so stupid expecting Neve to defend Melissa when: This is Neve's franchise and she wanted to save it from being ruined. She's very protective of what Kevin and Wes built and knew that she had to make sure they didn't go the Scream Season 3 route by giving us a full-fledged reboot no one wanted. Melissa didn't ask for a pay cut for 6 in exchange for Neve to get a fair salary. Melissa isn't defending Neve from the onslaught of ageism, antisemitism, death threats, and harassment that she's received. Neve is a 50 year old C-List actress who will most likely never see a million dollar check ever again in her career. I don't blame her for taking the check at all when it's Hard Out Here.mp3, especially when her only income is going to horror conventions and royalties/residuals from Scream airing during the Halloween season. Neve is not Melissa's friend and doesn't owe her ****. 1. If she wanted it saved from being ruined yall better hope that this movie is good or else ya and her will look like clowns for dragging Melissa. They already did one installment without her and it worked out just fine which proved that she's not as vital as yall thought and that's where I think some fans take an issue with. At some point this franchise is getting rebooted whether we like or not with none of the cast involved. It's inevitable at this point unfortunately with the way Hollywood is so creatively bankrupt 2. Why would Melissa ask for a pay cut when shes the one thats still the up and coming actor not Neve? What a wild suggestion 3. Are ya having this same energy for Courtney and Jenna cause why is this so A and B? Courtney could've touched for Neve's pay cause chances are Courtney didn't take a pay cut. Jenna also walked away in sjpport of Melkssa and hasn't spoken about Neve are ya coming for her too if no then why not? Why has this become a literal war of the final girls when they're both on the same side? 4. Unless your her accountant to insinuate that shes in anyway struggling financially is crazy. Cause shes not. She still books roles and still gets money. And how do you know that she was even paid 1mil do you have receipts for that? 5. We don't know their relationship but this fan war has gotten out of hand on both sides. It's giving Britney and Christina but for horror fans 1
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 10/2/2024 at 2:18 AM, Smarticle said: i hope they have a good story cause how are you gonna write off the sisters or sidestep them to bring back Neve They were able to do the reverse just fine. This movie has to at least be just as good as 6 or 4 because thw trouble to get it made has been a headache. On 9/23/2024 at 11:02 PM, Josh said: the 2nd had an all-star cast of actual talent and wasn't relilable on forced exposition like every spoken dialogue out of Melissa's mouth in 5. Their is literally forced exposition in all of the movies because it's meta and commentary on the genre it's parodying while being the subject matter in itself On 9/23/2024 at 7:13 PM, YourFavoriteWeapon said: Mother Neve will stand strong against the stupid Z-list Midlissa stans I really hope she's ignoring the antisemitism and ageism from them You can support Neve without being rude to others you know that? I like both and seeing this comment was nasty. On 9/20/2024 at 7:15 AM, superglowy said: I'm assuming Hayden will be in 'Scream 7' and her storyline will set up the Spinoff, probably a 'Ghostface Cult' plot line with a small version of it going after Sidney then FBI agent Kirby Reed addressing the larger cult in her movie. I love Kirby but not enough where she gets to headline a whole spinoff franchise for herself. If anything she can be included in the franchise and replace Sidney and Gale once either or gets killed or finally retired as a character. On 9/23/2024 at 9:09 PM, GraceRandolph said: This sounds like a mess. Bringing Dewey back from the dead? Sidney's kids? No to both On 10/1/2024 at 10:12 PM, prettyinpink940 said: I can't wait! And before anyone brings it up, no one cares about who Melissa Barrera is, what she said and why she was fired. Abigail flopped. Her upcoming Your Monster will also flop. She will have back to back flops. Twitter activists aren't ticket buyers. Scream 7 will perform on its own merits like critical acclaim, audience reception, general audience interest, marketing,etc. Not true. Her standing up against genocide raised her profile visibility by a mile. Why are yall being so dismissive and acting like she's a bad person for having a rational point of view. She didn't ask to leave this franchise they fired her. Are yall not remembering the facts of how thing splayed out correctly on purpose because of your bias or what? Abigail was a hit with critics and viewers and made it's money back and was a streaming bit. Seethe! Twitter activists? In the real outside world alot of people are against genocide. What a tone death remark to make 1
freshoutthebuffet Posted October 24 Posted October 24 A first quarter release… Spyglass has no confidence in this mess. And before any of yall try to check me — yes, I'm aware 5 and 6 were released in the first quarter as well. However, you can tell they were inching away from that with 6 being released in March the following year. They were slowly having faith in the franchise again. I'll still be watching via alternate methods. If it's good, I'll have no problem eating my words
Shelter Posted October 24 Posted October 24 20 minutes ago, freshoutthebuffet said: A first quarter release… Spyglass has no confidence in this mess. And before any of yall try to check me — yes, I'm aware 5 and 6 were released in the first quarter as well. However, you can tell they were inching away from that with 6 being released in March the following year. They were slowly having faith in the franchise again. I'll still be watching via alternate methods. If it's good, I'll have no problem eating my words I don't get why Scream was never released in Oct.
Shelter Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Melissa fans should really calm down, her character isn't dead. She will most likely be brought back at some stage. Stu being alive would be the last straw for me. So none of them knew he was alive all these years? Stop, enough of that nonsense. 1
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 51 minutes ago, Shelter said: Melissa fans should really calm down, her character isn't dead. She will most likely be brought back at some stage. Stu being alive would be the last straw for me. So none of them knew he was alive all these years? Stop, enough of that nonsense. Yeah but after everything that went down you think the studio is gonna want Melissa back or she is gonna want to go back to them? They've probably blacklisted her from working with their studios. No Stu. No Casey. No Parker Posey. No Dewey. They're dead. Literally give it up dellishis. 1 hour ago, freshoutthebuffet said: A first quarter release… Spyglass has no confidence in this mess. And before any of yall try to check me — yes, I'm aware 5 and 6 were released in the first quarter as well. However, you can tell they were inching away from that with 6 being released in March the following year. They were slowly having faith in the franchise again. I'll still be watching via alternate methods. If it's good, I'll have no problem eating my words They need to take a risk. Patrick Dempsey better be back. They need to grow a pair. Honestly either kill Sidney's dad, husband, Gale or one of her kids. We need the suspense back asap
Josh Posted October 24 Posted October 24 6 hours ago, SchmoodRing said: They were able to do the reverse just fine. This movie has to at least be just as good as 6 or 4 because thw trouble to get it made has been a headache. Their is literally forced exposition in all of the movies because it's meta and commentary on the genre it's parodying while being the subject matter in itself You can support Neve without being rude to others you know that? I like both and seeing this comment was nasty. I love Kirby but not enough where she gets to headline a whole spinoff franchise for herself. If anything she can be included in the franchise and replace Sidney and Gale once either or gets killed or finally retired as a character. No to both Not true. Her standing up against genocide raised her profile visibility by a mile. Why are yall being so dismissive and acting like she's a bad person for having a rational point of view. She didn't ask to leave this franchise they fired her. Are yall not remembering the facts of how thing splayed out correctly on purpose because of your bias or what? Abigail was a hit with critics and viewers and made it's money back and was a streaming bit. Seethe! Twitter activists? In the real outside world alot of people are against genocide. What a tone death remark to make buy the exposition wasnt forced sounding like in 5
Josh Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 10/2/2024 at 2:18 AM, Smarticle said: i hope they have a good story cause how are you gonna write off the sisters or sidestep them to bring back Neve because this is NEVEs franchise not theirs 1 1
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 1 hour ago, Josh said: buy the exposition wasnt forced sounding like in 5 Yeah 5 was clunky as hell. To me it's 1 = 2 > 4 = 6 > 5 > 3 1
Josh Posted October 24 Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, SchmoodRing said: Yeah 5 was clunky as hell. To me it's 1 = 2 > 4 = 6 > 5 > 3 I wanted to blow my brains out each time Sam was telling the story of Stab 1
Uncatena Posted October 24 Posted October 24 7 hours ago, Shelter said: Melissa fans should really calm down, her character isn't dead. She will most likely be brought back at some stage. the one and only way that could happen is if another studio gets the rights to this franchise, which won't happen. and I highly doubt Melissa would even want to be back, considering what happened and that she is booked and busy.
JBJT2786 Posted October 24 Posted October 24 Yall whining about Stu when Matthew Lillard has been trolling Stus comeback since 5... I doubt he would do it if he was asked to return.
SchmoodRing Posted October 24 Posted October 24 13 minutes ago, JBJT2786 said: Yall whining about Stu when Matthew Lillard has been trolling Stus comeback since 5... I doubt he would do it if he was asked to return. Well the trolling is getting annoying especially when it keeps gaining traction.
Smarticle Posted October 24 Posted October 24 4 hours ago, Josh said: because this is NEVEs franchise not theirs This is so closed minded they rebooted the franchise with the sisters for a reason, with Neve coming back to pass the proverbial torch 1
Josh Posted October 24 Posted October 24 4 minutes ago, Smarticle said: This is so closed minded they rebooted the franchise with the sisters for a reason, with Neve coming back to pass the proverbial torch and Melissa was the most hated actress in 5 shes no Neve or Courteney 1
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