Kevin2803 Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 10 hours ago, genetic fail said: No. She was literally gutted. This would be the opposite of "good writing". Let the dead characters stay dead. It only worked for Kirby because we never saw her die and Wes Craven left it open intentionally.
Josh Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kevin2803 said: No. She was literally gutted. This would be the opposite of "good writing". Let the dead characters stay dead. It only worked for Kirby because we never saw her die and Wes Craven left it open intentionally. I would literally face palm if this happened and would stop watching this series altogether. Drew Barrymore is just desperate for a role cause she's a has been and I say this as someone who loves her and Casey Becker. Edited April 14, 2023 by Josh
TheOnlyOne Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 Casey coming back is ridiculous and should and will NEVER happen And yet I still prefer it over Stu coming back
Intuition Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 Scream 6 stans thinking it would be ridiculous that Casey would be brought back (true) but love a movie where a man survives after being stabbed 20 times (twice) while bleeding from the mouth or a character jumping from the balcony and girlbossing after being stabbed in the spine and showing no signs of pain or injury
Josh Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Intuition said: Scream 6 stans thinking it would be ridiculous that Casey would be brought back (true) but love a movie where a man survives after being stabbed 20 times (twice) while bleeding from the mouth or a character jumping from the balcony and girlbossing after being stabbed in the spine and showing no signs of pain or injury We literally saw Casey's corpse. If Dewey can survive throughout the first four films then so can Chad.
Intuition Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Josh said: We literally saw Casey's corpse. If Dewey can survive throughout the first four films then so can Chad. Dewey was stabbed once in the back in the first film (and originally was going to die) and then maybe 3-4 times in Scream 2. It's not the same thing as Chad's stabbings and it was ridiculous the first time, but twice is just bad writing
Josh Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Intuition said: Dewey was stabbed once in the back in the first film (and originally was going to die) and then maybe 3-4 times in Scream 2. It's not the same thing as Chad's stabbings and it was ridiculous the first time, but twice is just bad writing Dewey was brutally stabbed in the back and conveniently Nancy Loomis stabbed him in the same place he was stabbed by Stu in the first film. He wasn't supposed to survive 2 either. Also the Scream series has lacked the down to earth realism since the 3rd film. Edited April 14, 2023 by Josh
TheOnlyOne Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 EVERY Scream movie, yes even the original, has elements that are extremely unrealistic. Picking and choosing which you find more acceptable cause you are blinded by your nostalgia from the earlier films is not the tea. Reminder that Ghostface walked around a public grocery store in the middle of the day during a city lockdown unclocked, Billy or Stu were somehow able to lift Kenny's fat tub of lard ass ontop of a news van taller than either of them in the midst of their massacre, Sidney fell 2 stories onto a hard ass boat and walked around fine after, a garage door lifted Tatum and crushed her, Gale gets conveniently knocked out and reawakes at just the perfect time, and Billy's dumbass thought he could fake being a victim to cops while wearing a shirt covered in fake blood all in the first movie. It's never been fully realistic and Chad surviving is no more off base than any of that.
Josh Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, TheOnlyOne said: EVERY Scream movie, yes even the original, has elements that are extremely unrealistic. Picking and choosing which you find more acceptable cause you are blinded by your nostalgia from the earlier films is not the tea. Reminder that Ghostface walked around a public grocery store in the middle of the day during a city lockdown unclocked, Billy or Stu were somehow able to lift Kenny's fat tub of lard ass ontop of a news van taller than either of them in the midst of their massacre, Sidney fell 2 stories onto a hard ass boat and walked around fine after, a garage door lifted Tatum and crushed her, Gale gets conveniently knocked out and reawakes at just the perfect time, and Billy's dumbass thought he could fake being a victim to cops while wearing a shirt covered in fake blood all in the first movie. It's never been fully realistic and Chad surviving is no more off base than any of that. That scene is still puzzling I always headcanon that scene as a jump scare sort of scene where the visual of Ghostface in the reflection is meant for the audience but Ghostface isn't really there.
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted April 14, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Intuition said: Dewey was stabbed once in the back in the first film (and originally was going to die) and then maybe 3-4 times in Scream 2. It's not the same thing as Chad's stabbings and it was ridiculous the first time, but twice is just bad writing This is a moot point as the franchise has never presented itself to be fully realistic. Part of the fun of these films is the suspension of disbelief. I acknowledge it's a personal opinion, but I think these films are much more fun when you accept the heightened reality as a narrative device for catharsis and entertainment rather than an overt detriment. Dewey was literally bleeding from his mouth in Scream 2, for all intents and purposes he did die in that scene, not to mention it's literally daylight when he gets carted out of the building meaning he was just lying there the whole night without medical attention and somehow survived I don't care though, it's all worth it to see him alive and reunited with Gale, the payoff warrants the choice However, just to play devil's advocate on the realism perspective, there are multiple cases of people surviving just as many stab wounds (most famously the slender man incident in which a girl was stabbed 19 times and lived). While I understand people's somewhat mixed reactions to that scene, I consider it a well done homage to Scream 2. Yes, very dramatic and 'unrealistic' but so is this franchise. Part of its enduring charm tbh
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted April 14, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, TheOnlyOne said: EVERY Scream movie, yes even the original, has elements that are extremely unrealistic. Picking and choosing which you find more acceptable cause you are blinded by your nostalgia from the earlier films is not the tea. Reminder that Ghostface walked around a public grocery store in the middle of the day during a city lockdown unclocked, Billy or Stu were somehow able to lift Kenny's fat tub of lard ass ontop of a news van taller than either of them in the midst of their massacre, Sidney fell 2 stories onto a hard ass boat and walked around fine after, a garage door lifted Tatum and crushed her, Gale gets conveniently knocked out and reawakes at just the perfect time, and Billy's dumbass thought he could fake being a victim to cops while wearing a shirt covered in fake blood all in the first movie. It's never been fully realistic and Chad surviving is no more off base than any of that. I know we don't necessarily agree re: Scream 4, but you always give well articulated tea supported by facts. We stan
Josh Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ampersand13 said: I know we don't necessarily agree re: Scream 4, but you always give well articulated tea supported by facts. We stan OT I love your stan list!! What did you think of Stay Alive?
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted April 14, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted April 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Josh said: OT I love your stan list!! What did you think of Stay Alive? Thanks! I really enjoy Stay Alive (Each time I saw the film in theaters, as the song started playing I always did a little dance in my seat lol) Big fan of Holy F**k so I anticipated a serve with Stay Alive considering it's rock and was co-written by Mike. I do think the chorus could have used a slightly different approach with regard to production, but it's still a bop!
Josh Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 Just now, Ampersand13 said: Thanks! I really enjoy Stay Alive (Each time I saw the film in theaters, as the song started playing I always did a little dance in my seat lol) Big fan of Holy F**k so I anticipated a serve with Stay Alive considering it's rock and was co-written by Mike. I do think the chorus could have used a slightly different approach with regard to production, but it's still a bop! It's so much better than Creed's What If for Scream 3 miles better
TheOnlyOne Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, Ampersand13 said: I know we don't necessarily agree re: Scream 4, but you always give well articulated tea supported by facts. We stan One day you'll realize 4 being the worst is also a fact tho And yes Still Alive is a bop and better than anything on Demi's album but we need the movie version officially released. The intro played in the film >>>>>> the soundtrack version
chosensparkles Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 I love Drew but Casey was literally DEAD, and that was the whole point of the first movie... like she was discussed by the group as dead and it was the following day
GraceRandolph Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 Chad is a healthy, muscular young adult male. His surviving is not that unrealistic.
Chris Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Intuition said: a character jumping from the balcony and girlbossing after being stabbed in the spine and showing no signs of pain Tara when she puts the knife in Ethan's mouth?
Chris Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 I think Tara got stabbed way too many times in the back (literally) in the final scene.
Hurem Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 $201,672 on a Thursday, a 67.5% drop This tanked so fast, it did less than what Scream (2022) did on it's 35th day. Though, to be fair, VI has far more competition. Scream (2022's) competition were Death on the Nile, Jackass Forever and Marry Me
Intuition Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) Obviously with any horror film, the viewer has to suspend some disbelief. However, people keep deflecting to the original movies, which although I prefer, obviously still have flaws. The problem is instead of learning from past mistakes, they keep doubling down and this is without the character development and wit that Williams/Craven brought. There was way too many survivors. You have the "Core Four" and also Gale/Kirby and the neighbor. That's seven survivors (!) which is ridiculous for any slasher movie, but especially a Scream which had three who were all quite different. Maybe I was on the opposite and went into this movie with higher hopes than others, but the more time that's gone by, the more I've found it very disappointing. I mean the body count was quite pathetic for "the most brutal and darkest Scream" ever. And that's just one aspect, the poor writing is another. I mean random people were killed, but you Ghostfaces have always killed innocent people who were not connected or a threat to their plans, it's nothing new or innovative. I fail to see what the point of rebooting this franchise even was, it's become so cliched and a generic slasher that I can't see it anything more than a bloated cash grab. Edited April 15, 2023 by Intuition
GraceRandolph Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Intuition said: Obviously with any horror film, the viewer has to suspend some disbelief. However, people keep deflecting to the original movies, which although I prefer, obviously still have flaws. The problem is instead of learning from past mistakes, they keep doubling down and this is without the character development and wit that Williams/Craven brought. There was way too many survivors. You have the "Core Four" and also Gale/Kirby and the neighbor. That's seven survivors (!) which is ridiculous for any slasher movie, but especially a Scream which had three who were all quite different. Maybe I was on the opposite and went into this movie with higher hopes than others, but the more time that's gone by, the more I've found it very disappointing. I mean the body count was quite pathetic for "the most brutal and darkest Scream" ever. And that's just one aspect, the poor writing is another. I mean random people were killed, but you Ghostfaces have always killed innocent people who were not connected or a threat to their plans, it's nothing new or innovative. I fail to see what the point of rebooting this franchise even was, it's become so cliched and a generic slasher that I can't see it anything more than a bloated cash grab. Neve might never return to the franchise, Dewey is dead, Jenna Ortega is booked and busy. They can’t just go around killing off all the returning characters midway through their trilogy.
Thief Posted April 15, 2023 Posted April 15, 2023 I love Drew but I can’t with her comparing being GUTTED to having a c-section.
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