katara Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 9 hours ago, BlueBlue said: People are saying oh release this release that from this album but sad truth is that the best thing she can do about this album to move on because if summer album left charts during summer this is not good for her. Sadly because I like this album and RO deserved much more Before she worked with Kevin and still had TAP, DL3 was planned to be mainly produced by Ian. She must have some banger bops from those sessions she could release to beef up RO until DL4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 hours ago, Relampago. said: I think they gave up on the era and tbh it's probably a smart move. I don't think this was going to be worth the investment. But! It's kind of ideal. A flop that makes no noise is great, she's not damaged goods. But her ass needs to get BACK in the studio and get something released in Q3 2025 ASAP. She still has random tour dates though, so she should either release These Walls or deluxe/another album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 6 hours ago, Relampago. said: I think they gave up on the era and tbh it's probably a smart move. I don't think this was going to be worth the investment. But! It's kind of ideal. A flop that makes no noise is great, she's not damaged goods. But her ass needs to get BACK in the studio and get something released in Q3 2025 ASAP. They can't 'move on' from this album and then do nothing until literally the end of next year She needs a hit THIS year, release a stand alone song, a collab with someone hot or the lead of the deluxe, anything really. She can't do nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katara Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Cain said: They can't 'move on' from this album and then do nothing until literally the end of next year She needs a hit THIS year, release a stand alone song, a collab with someone hot or the lead of the deluxe, anything really. She can't do nothing Yeah exactly they are stuck with RO until the tour ends The Bruno collab would have been perfect. Hopefully she is featured or something. She needs a hit from September to Dec and another one early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndShine Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 The tour is just as mismanaged as the music and rollout was. This flop era will be dragged out until June next year when she should have been releasing DL4. Yeah, I know it's Wembley but those 2 dates are random as hell. The album tanked and there is nothing to sustain the era for the next 10 months leading up to those dates. Where is the deluxe? Like hello she needs hits. Kevin Parker shouldn't touch anything on the deluxe, he already ruined the parent album. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndShine Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I can't believe her dad turned her into a Khia again. If she was smart she'd do what Rihanna did. RO is her Rated R, her next album needs to be a Loud. Hits only. Dukagjin you will pay for your crimes! 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 26 minutes ago, RiseAndShine said: The tour is just as mismanaged as the music and rollout was. This flop era will be dragged out until June next year when she should have been releasing DL4. Yeah, I know it's Wembley but those 2 dates are random as hell. The album tanked and there is nothing to sustain the era for the next 10 months leading up to those dates. Where is the deluxe? Like hello she needs hits. Kevin Parker shouldn't touch anything on the deluxe, he already ruined the parent album. The fact there's an Asian leg, Latam festivals and two UK dates so far Like I know there's gonna be a whole tour (I guess, they planned it but who knows, maybe it's scrapped atp…) so why are only those random dates announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 46 minutes ago, RiseAndShine said: I can't believe her dad turned her into a Khia again. If she was smart she'd do what Rihanna did. RO is her Rated R, her next album needs to be a Loud. Hits only. Dukagjin you will pay for your crimes! All of this. She has the capability to move past this and achieve another peak with the next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katara Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, RiseAndShine said: I can't believe her dad turned her into a Khia again. If she was smart she'd do what Rihanna did. RO is her Rated R, her next album needs to be a Loud. Hits only. Dukagjin you will pay for your crimes! The thing is though that Rihanna was too edgy during Rated R and needed to be more safe with Loud while Dua has the opposite problem. RO is safe af already. She needs to spice it up and take some risks. If she keeps it safe and bland with another project she is gonna solidify her KP status of being OVER for good. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndShine Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Cain said: The fact there's an Asian leg, Latam festivals and two UK dates so far Like I know there's gonna be a whole tour (I guess, they planned it but who knows, maybe it's scrapped atp…) so why are only those random dates announced I still don't understand why the full tour wasn't announced after Glastonbury. That would have been the perfect jump off with the audience reach and critical acclaim she received. Smh, the less I say about their strategy the better. 19 minutes ago, katara said: The thing is though that Rihanna was too edgy during Rated R and needed to be more safe with Loud while Dua has the opposite problem. You're right but I don't think Dua is afraid of changing it up. Houdini was a step in the right direction. All she needed to do was commit to that soundscape and this album would have been a complete 180. The album tracks don't even match the sound or energy of the singles IMO. Something happened along the way to make her fall back into that safe pop bubble (which she did better on her 1st album anyway). 34 minutes ago, katara said: RO is safe af already. She needs to spice it up and take some risks. If she keeps it safe and bland with another project she is gonna solidify her KP status of being OVER for good. Dua and the sexy, confident songstress are nothing alike. For one, even during this flop era no one is referring to Dua as a joke - not in image or sound. Katy wasn't just corny during her flop era, she was corny during her prime. Absolutely no one thinks that of Dua right now. Her image has not taken a hit. She just needs the right songs (and to get rid of dookiegjin) and she can bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katara Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 But yeah the tour annoucement is a huge mess. I feel that is all on Dukagjin since he must have slept on securing the locations and dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillain Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Honestly it's shocking to me that she hasn't released any DJ collab this era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahauntingnearu Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Laying low during the summer while Charlie, Chappell and Sabrina is definitely smart imo... But it certainly is reactionary and wasn't planned/strategic. Nor does it excuse or explain the other nonsensical decisions like the tour rollout (or lack thereof) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katara Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 13 minutes ago, Supervillain said: Honestly it's shocking to me that she hasn't released any DJ collab this era. Like? Maybe before it was the team/label forcing her and now that she has control we have to just get by with the dullness of RO alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imalinduh Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 4 hours ago, Cain said: The fact there's an Asian leg, Latam festivals and two UK dates so far Like I know there's gonna be a whole tour (I guess, they planned it but who knows, maybe it's scrapped atp…) so why are only those random dates announced Not even the Latam festivals are confirmed yet. The rollout is such a mess we should've had another single (or deluxe) by now, and a proper announcement of the world tour. Also why would she go on vacation in july and august when this album screams summer. I know the era couldn't do insane numbers but another single and tour dates would at least make the charts and numbers more decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tost1 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 This era is such a disappointment. I love the music but that's it, everything else was a total mess. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katara Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 10 hours ago, tost1 said: This era is such a disappointment. I love the music but that's it, everything else was a total mess. I love Houdini and Illusion and sometimes TS. That's it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cain Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 The way she shot a whole music video and announced that she did and Warner said "now hol on now I don't think so miss girl" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermouth Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 15 hours ago, imalinduh said: Not even the Latam festivals are confirmed yet. The rollout is such a mess we should've had another single (or deluxe) by now, and a proper announcement of the world tour. Also why would she go on vacation in july and august when this album screams summer. I know the era couldn't do insane numbers but another single and tour dates would at least make the charts and numbers more decent If I was probably worth pushing $100 million, I'd go on on holiday for all of July and August too😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshleyLovescats887 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 33 minutes ago, Cain said: The way she shot a whole music video and announced that she did and Warner said "now hol on now I don't think so miss girl" Warner said "no girlie let's release the 9th remix of 'Illusion' instead" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katara Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 The way Delusion's streams collapsed LOL. It's doing ~500k and on par with IDGAF. At least Houdini and TS are still doing 1,1M daily 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 5 hours ago, Cain said: The way she shot a whole music video and announced that she did and Warner said "now hol on now I don't think so miss girl" Did she say it though? I forgot nnn. But I feel like the alleged Falling Forever MV with the horse on set was that commercial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-esper Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 The way I am still obsessed with the album. The way I am not even the biggest fan of FF as single but since New Rules was the gear shift for debut and Don't Start Now was the start of FN, maybe releasing an Ian Kirkpatrick production can do the trick again, whether it is FF or a new song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katara Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Look at what we had girlies. Was RO top 10 even for one week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Luke Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 At least it's still charting decently pretty much everywhere after 4 months. It's better than I expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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