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Just now, lgaga1fan said:

Bringing up all the Khia music market places while ignoring the biggest (Asian markets where the song peaked in Japan, didn't make a dent in Korea and fell like a rock) is a brave defense of TS…

France is one of the biggest music markets in the world, according to IFPI raport of 2023 it is bigger than South Korea, Australia or even Brazil so idk what's your point

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2 minutes ago, BlackoutZone said:

France is one of the biggest music markets in the world, according to IFPI raport of 2023 it is bigger than South Korea, Australia or even Brazil so idk what's your point

Arguing that the song isn't at least a big underperformance from a "world" perspective is just a dumb defense when FN singles made a big dent in Japan and Korea and these songs aren't stuck in. You can say it's a big hit in Eurocentric countries but arguing a worldly performance despite the two largest music markets ignoring the song is a weak defense. 

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On more positive note, the second day numbers actually aren't looking that bad so far :chick1: Not many tuned in, but those who did stayed I guess

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Oh btw I probably sound like a massive DL hater on this thread but I rlly love her music and will be at the Radical Underperformance tour regardless 

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Just now, lgaga1fan said:

Arguing that the song isn't at least a big underperformance from a "world" perspective is just a dumb defense when FN singles made a big dent in Japan and Korea and these songs aren't stuck in. You can say it's a big hit in Eurocentric countries but arguing a worldly performance despite the two largest music markets ignoring the song is a weak defense. 

It's not like many Western pop hits make sizeable waves in these markets and Dua literally promoted FN era in Korea so it's not surprising it's doing better than RO

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Just now, BlackoutZone said:

It's not like many Western pop hits make sizeable waves in these markets and Dua literally promoted FN era in Korea so it's not surprising it's doing better than RO

Help i forgot about the amazing don't star now MAMA performance.. that changed lives 

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Just now, lgaga1fan said:

Help i forgot about the amazing don't star now MAMA performance.. that changed lives 

And Physical with Hwasa! let's forget that one tho...

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A #2 debut. A win is a win. Yup. Yup.

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17 minutes ago, BlackoutZone said:

On more positive note, the second day numbers actually aren't looking that bad so far :chick1: Not many tuned in, but those who did stayed I guess

What's a "normal" percentage drop day 2 from day 1?

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Houdini

Illusion

End of an Era

French Exit

Whatcha Doing (I always think people are talking about Illusion when they mention this bc its chorus starts with whatcha doin nn)

Training Season

Falling Forever

Happy For You

Maria

Anything for Love

These Walls

 

Is probably how I'd rank this after a few listens. I'd like AFL more if it was like the second half or at least kept getting bigger & was longer. TW I really hate the chorus but I actually think the verses work. Maria is ranked where it is because tbh I have no idea yet if I like or dislike the song sdhoipdhshd.

 

I'd say this doesn't come close to Future Nostalgia (but it at least is ENTIRELY consistent where FN flops on the last two), but I truly do not know where all these debut stans are coming from saying it's better than RO like... let's not get too carried away. I think this album is good, but not great. Each song has aspects that I like and either aspects that I don't like or there's just not enough to captivate me to the song.

 

But I think the dramatics over this album are so overblown lmfao it's really not that bad, she will be fine, she/her team completely botched the rollout but no point in getting upset about it. Just enjoy the music and move on.

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This album hitting hard on this hot first Saturday of May.

 

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Ajay released a Radical Optimism reaction (on Patreon)

 

Spoiler:

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she loved it and put 9 goddamn marks out of 11

she didn't put the marks on Training Season and Happy For You

 

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6 minutes ago, Vermouth said:

What's a "normal" percentage drop day 2 from day 1?

Like 20%-30%? Less than 20 is very good, more than 30 is kinda bad, but obviously there are exceptions to the rule, Taylor always has bigger drops, but it's just because her releases have such immense hype they have massive first day numbers impossible to hold for too long.


I think FN lost 18% on second day

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Haven't had much time to listen this since i've been on vacation in Central Europe since the first of the month. Going to give this a full listen tomorrow on the train from Prague to Vienna. Listening to a little again now before I fall asleep 

 

End of an era is really cute I like the spoken parts 

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Just sat there completely stone-faced for my second listen omg

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1 hour ago, scottstreet said:

Word on the street is that the second day streams will match or surpass the first day ones. 
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Just now, scottstreet said:

 
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Please don't tell me you're the source of this fndjdjjdjd

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What was her team thinking not releasing Whatcha Doing as a single? It's radio candy with a great hook and the most FN-coded on the album - SCREAMS hit.

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2 hours ago, KingWitch said:

"How Loooooooooooooooooong"

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Imagine being Ian Kirkpatrick in the studio hearing that?

 

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Just now, _Fey said:

Please don't tell me you're the source of this fndjdjjdjd

I don't think I am but let's pretend so cause it's funny af

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Just heard the album twice.

 

Happy For You, These Walls and Maria are that girls. End Of An Era is my least favourite. The singles are all legendary.

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I'm torn because I absolutely stan the first 5 tracks but the rest just veers into elevator music territory (except Godlusion)

 

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The way the singles sound completely different from the album tracks :suburban: like they're so jarring with the flow

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3 minutes ago, RT Air said:

I'm torn because I absolutely stan the first 5 tracks but the rest just veers into elevator music territory (except Godlusion)

 

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Totally the other way around for me!

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who made this sh-t plssss 😭😭spacer.png

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